Nintendo is DEAD in Australian EB stores.

[videoclone]

I went to my local EB Over here in Australia and was looking at there game titles .. I noticed they had taken there Gamecube games off the shelfs and the only GQ titles your able to purchase are the ones in there second hand section and any back stock? order in was also still available ?. they also weren?t selling the console anymore ? Very strange so I asked the guy at the counter what the deal was with that?? he said ALL Australian EB Stores have low demand for those items so they do not stock them?.. Ummm What the ? I thought Nintendo was making more money then Sony and MS why in the world would a large retailer be dumping them? Could MS or Sony be doing an Intel pay out strongarm thing to try and shut them out?

What?s the situation like for Nintendo over in the U.S guys ??? because down here its DEAD like the rotting corpses you find in RE4.

Will ATI lose out money if they go bust?

 

[NoStateofMind]

Nintendo going bust....LOL

Wouldn't matter to me if they did, just don't think they will.

 

[Powermoloch]

Nintendo is like a prostitute now....legs wide open and everything getting in...killing it.

 

[Cooler]

after sega left it was only a matter of time before Nintendo bit the dust in hardware.

 

[NokiaDude]

The mini-dvd media and weird controller is what I think killed it. Hardware wise the gamecube is pretty good, RE4 is an excellent example.

 

[VIAN]

Here it's pretty slow as well, although started to pick up a bit due to everybody already having an Xbox and PS2. But still the third wheel.

 

[Lonyo]

Nintendo are making money, but they are fairly small sales wise.
Australia probably isn't a huge market, so take a small part of a small market and you get low demand, hardly suprising.

 

[videoclone]

Makes sence Lonyo

 

[BigfootKevin]

Tons of GBA's and DS's still sell at my Best Buy. Nintendo may not be doing too well with the console, but they still own the handheld. But with nintendo, instead of getting a ton of crappy games with a good title here and there, you get few releases with some good titles. SSMB, Mario Party, Mariokart, RE4, Fire Emblem, etc.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Yeah, one GC game they're be guaranteed to have in stock new would be the new Zelda game coming out next year. I'd wager that game will sell GC consoles, unless people buy up Revolutions because those systems should be able to play that game thanks to backwards compatibility.

 

[blckgrffn]

Nintendo still says no HD in the Revolution. That is just plain stupid. Heck, they stop putting the 480P output on them just when HD tv's really started becoming realistic. I would have bought the dongle already if it didn't involve me shipping my cube away for three weeks.

Seems dumb to me, and if the Revolution doesn't have at least 480p, then I will stick with my GF's cube which we shipped back and got the high def dongle for.

It really is better at 60FPS.

Nat

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Nintendo hasn't said a lot about their system, I wouldn't trust things quiet yet. I don't see how they can't support HD, because its going to become standard, not just a luxury, in the next few years. I know Nintendo is trying to keep emphasis away from graphics and focused on gameplay and fun factor, but graphics are part of the game. You don't need photorealistic graphics for them to be immersive and highly enjoyable, but they can't stay alive if they can't provide some pretty pictures.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Reminds me of the issue with the N64's super-low-res display output (*1), when the damn 3DO (*2) had 640x480 output on many/most of its games.

(*1) Well, except for what, two games, and it required a hardware memory upgrade pack. The console couldn't really handle it anyways, as it slowed the frame-rate down.

(*2) A console, ahead of it's time, but unfortunately at the end of it's market lifespan at the time the N64 got popular. The fact that an older, dying, console, had better graphics and res than an up-and-coming one, proves how poor the N64's graphics really were. I'm not saying it was a bad console, the games were often quite fun, but it could have shone so much better, had it better graphics and higher resolution display output. Hence the popularity of UltraHLE to play N64 games at higher res on a PC.

 

[Xiro]

Nintendo isn't going anywhere, they make too much money regardless of console stats. They continue to do their own thing and continue to make large profits, which is impressive for just a game company compared to the other two seeing as those two are an entertainment jugernaught and a software/computer jugernaught.

P.S. Nintendo is not trying to compete with the other two consoles, they want to be that "second console" that people will pick up to compliment the other system.

 

[rstrohkirch]

Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Nintendo still says no HD in the Revolution. That is just plain stupid. Heck, they stop putting the 480P output on them just when HD tv's really started becoming realistic. I would have bought the dongle already if it didn't involve me shipping my cube away for three weeks.


Nat

I'm confused - all you have to do is purchase the component cables for the system and you'll get 480p as long as the game supports it. You can even pickup custom made vga cables for around $60 shipped. The xbox and PS2 both come with standard composite cables don't they, so you'd have to buy component cables for them as well which makes it no different then the GC? Unless you're saying that the older GC came with a component cable or output, which I wouldn't know about.

Seems dumb to me, and if the Revolution doesn't have at least 480p, then I will stick with my GF's cube which we shipped back and got the high def dongle for.

It really is better at 60FPS.

There isn't any HD gamecube games, they are 480p so you're TV is simply upconverting them to 1080i.

 

[blckgrffn]

Originally posted by: rstrohkirch

Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Nintendo still says no HD in the Revolution. That is just plain stupid. Heck, they stop putting the 480P output on them just when HD tv's really started becoming realistic. I would have bought the dongle already if it didn't involve me shipping my cube away for three weeks.


Nat

I'm confused - all you have to do is purchase the component cables for the system and you'll get 480p as long as the game supports it. You can even pickup custom made vga cables for around $60 shipped. The xbox and PS2 both come with standard composite cables don't they, so you'd have to buy component cables for them as well which makes it no different then the GC? Unless you're saying that the older GC came with a component cable or output, which I wouldn't know about.

Seems dumb to me, and if the Revolution doesn't have at least 480p, then I will stick with my GF's cube which we shipped back and got the high def dongle for.

It really is better at 60FPS.

There isn't any HD gamecube games, they are 480p so you're TV is simply upconverting them to 1080i.

For about the last two years, GC's haven't had the digital out. Try just buying the cables... oh wait, you have to import them from hong kong.

480p isn't strictly high def, I guess, but to use it you have to have at least an EDTV, so for most of the populace it is high def and is much better than 480i.

Nintendo better at least support component/480p in this next gen or the console will be worthless IMHO. Graphics aren't everything but they certainly help.

Nat

 

[rstrohkirch]

I've never really thought of the component cables for GC as hard to find. You can go on ebay any day of the week and find 10+ buy it now auctions for them all within the US not to mention numerous US websites that carry them. I guess if someone is limited to shopping at something like Best Buy then it's an impossible item to find, especially considering even Walmart carries PS2 and Xbox component extras

 

[Spike]

Nintendo is in the unique poisition of actually making money on console sales, not just games. Plus they are always cheaper and always have at least 5-10 games for every console that are "must haves". To me that is worth the $100 I paid for the GC and the $100-150 they expect the revolution to sell for.

What do I need a high end console that is basically a computer with PC ports on it when I have a gaming PC? I want something that offers games that are different and Nintendo fits the bill there.

-spike

 

[Sunrise089]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Nintendo is like a prostitute now....legs wide open and everything getting in...killing it.

I will repeat this again for all of those who haven't been listening:

Nintendo makes more profit than MS or Sony's game devisions. That is the stat that matters. The Xbox will stick around and probably do very well because MS funnels cash towards, and thats fine. Assuming Sony can turn the company as a whole around the PS will stick around and probably do very well because it operates at a small profit. Nintendo earned well more than double Sony's video game devision profit last year, they are not going anywhere.

Also - wrong forum for the OP?

 

[Wall7486]

I think having a nintendo console is inevitable. They have too many franchises (Mario, Metroid, Zelda, etc). They can profit quite a bit from having those small gameboys and a brand new system due to the franchises. I also think the Gamecube is a great console for having people over your home. Simply plug all 4 controllers in, don't need any multi-tap crap, and you're all set.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Spike
Nintendo is in the unique poisition of actually making money on console sales, not just games. Plus they are always cheaper and always have at least 5-10 games for every console that are "must haves". To me that is worth the $100 I paid for the GC and the $100-150 they expect the revolution to sell for.

What do I need a high end console that is basically a computer with PC ports on it when I have a gaming PC? I want something that offers games that are different and Nintendo fits the bill there.

-spike

Ditto. I've got a Cube for the same reason - the "must have" titles (Metroid, Zelda, etc) made my cube a worthy $150 CDN purchase, while nothing has really knocked my socks off on the Xbox except for Halo 1 and 2; everything else I find either unappealing or available on the PC.

Edit: I've also got a cube that has the (inappropriately labelled) "digital" out (it's analog since component is an analog connection, but it is progressive scan). 480p gamecube games via component look incredible; one of the best examples would be F-Zero GX which supports 480p in 16:9 widescreen, and it is virtually jaw-dropping.

 

[Avalon]

Blockbusters here in the states have removed GBA and NDS game rentals from their shelves. We still have Gamecube rentals and retail product, as well as NDS/GBA leftover retail product. We actually get a lot more people buying/renting PSP games than NDS/GBA games, at least at my store.

 

[blckgrffn]

Originally posted by: rstrohkirch
I've never really thought of the component cables for GC as hard to find. You can go on ebay any day of the week and find 10+ buy it now auctions for them all within the US not to mention numerous US websites that carry them. I guess if someone is limited to shopping at something like Best Buy then it's an impossible item to find, especially considering even Walmart carries PS2 and Xbox component extras

Point me to a US store that has them (non-ebay). And the fact that I would have to exchange my gamecube. Which Nintendo, to their credit, does for free. But it takes like three weeks.

So, you can't just walk into a store and buy the cables, like I said. I am not sure what wal-mart having component cables for xbox and ps2 has anything to do with the gamecube. Unless you are saying that it is at a disadvantage because the cables are not widely available, in which case I agree with you.

And importing them costs the same (even less than most) as any of those ebay auctions.

Nat

 

[Chocolate Pi]

I don't see how people can complain about the Revolution's lack of HD-support without even acknowledging the other side of the coin. The Revolution is going to be $99 or $149, and it isn't because Nintendo loves us. It'd the same reason a 6600 is cheaper than a 6800GT. Lower resolutions requires less power, which allows a cheaper, cooler, and quieter video card. I feel stupid for saying something so obvious out loud.

Nintendo wants a cheap console that everyone buys. They don't want anyone to see "Xbox 360 vs. PS3 vs. Revolution", they want you to see "Xbox 360 & Revolution vs. PS3 & Revolution". Nintendo is very wise and has BILLIONS to show for it. This is just another in a chain of good business decisions, allowing Sony and Microsoft to impale each other over the expensive enthusiast market while they attack an entirely unclaimed market. (Not to say all their decisions are smart: N64 using carts and GameCube marketing, 'nuff said...)

Quite frankly, the Revolution looks to offer a ton for such a low price point. Built in wireless networking and a free online service will be a big seller. Also, contrary to popular belief, the Revolution WILL have large graphical advancements. (After all, even modern graphics are easy to render if you stick to 640x480.) Sony and Microsoft's expensive focus on HD allows Nintendo to slip in and do pretty well without taking them head-on.

 

[blckgrffn]

Originally posted by: Chocolate Pi
I don't see how people can complain about the Revolution's lack of HD-support without even acknowledging the other side of the coin. The Revolution is going to be $99 or $149, and it isn't because Nintendo loves us. It'd the same reason a 6600 is cheaper than a 6800GT. Lower resolutions requires less power, which allows a cheaper, cooler, and quieter video card. I feel stupid for saying something so obvious out loud.

Nintendo wants a cheap console that everyone buys. They don't want anyone to see "Xbox 360 vs. PS3 vs. Revolution", they want you to see "Xbox 360 & Revolution vs. PS3 & Revolution". Nintendo is very wise and has BILLIONS to show for it. This is just another in a chain of good business decisions, allowing Sony and Microsoft to impale each other over the expensive enthusiast market while they attack an entirely unclaimed market. (Not to say all their decisions are smart: N64 using carts and GameCube marketing, 'nuff said...)

Quite frankly, the Revolution looks to offer a ton for such a low price point. Built in wireless networking and a free online service will be a big seller. Also, contrary to popular belief, the Revolution WILL have large graphical advancements. (After all, even modern graphics are easy to render if you stick to 640x480.) Sony and Microsoft's expensive focus on HD allows Nintendo to slip in and do pretty well without taking them head-on.

The current gamecube is less than $100, especially with extra controllers and bundled games. The wireless costs how much on that many units? $3, $4 dollars? Free online service? That will cost nintendo maybe $150,000 to $500,000 per year for a data center setup and bandwidth in my estimation. Not large potatoes and certainly not an excuse to barely increase the specs (128 megs of ram!!! Oh, joy!!! :roll: )

It better at least have component output and 480P support, that is what I am saying. 720P optional would be great, but I won't be holding my breath.

Nat