Nice contribution to the discussion there! Must have taken you all day to come up with that dig on what is in all likeliness the single most influential video game company ever.
Another thing that I noticed on the DS. When the speaker volume is on 50% or higher, the speakers create vibrations that vibrate the picture on the top screen. Not cool. It's acceptable, but it's best just to use headphones for the cleanest picture.
Noticed while playing Mario64DS.
Noticed while playing Mario64DS.
Originally posted by: hans030390
My DS is sweet...no problems (and actually, the graphics are alot better than N64, its a fact)
get a new one, but whatever you do DONT settle for a PSP... (3 hours battery life at most!!! woot!)
bye
Umm... no. 5hours at leaset
The DS has rehashed games? Take another look at the PSP's games... almost ALL ports, with nothing new. DS has many innovative games coming out (and some are out in Japan) that make use of the touch screen. How about a game where you play a medical intern or surgeon, and use the touch screen and microphone to complete medical testing and surgery? (out in japan now, two different games). Or, how about adventure games where you are a lawyer and solve crimes with evidence you gather (no need for touch screen, but still cool). Or, again an adventure/RPG game, where you get shipwrecked on an island and have to learn to survive (hunt, fire, shelter) and you eventually find a woman who was wrecked onto the island as well. Or maybe the fact there are online games coming out for it (and I do mean internet), namely Mario Kart and Animal Crossing (not my cup of tea, but eh). And let's not forget new Metroid, Zelda, Final Fantasy, and Castlevania games, or all the GBA games you can play now (many of which are awesome). As for the first games, out in Japan now or coming out in the US or Japan soon (I hope some of these games make it to our shores, I know all of the ones I mentioned save the surgeon ones are, even though they have a lot of English in them). I am sick and tired of idiots going "GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS"... what a sorry excuse the gaming industry is becoming. The DS has some, at the least, semi inventive games and things about it. The PSP is just the same old crap made portable. Yeah its fun sometimes, but its old. The only thing the PSP does decent is play movies... and even the it ghosts. Yay for crappy LCDs that are under 5 inches, have lots of dead pixels, and GHOST. I have used a PSP quite a bit, so maybe you can't notice it, but I do in Spider Man 2. The DS doesn't have fancy graphics, so what? The games it has at its disposal (including GBA) make anything the PSP has look like crap. Gameplay > graphics (and unstellar graphics I may add, as they are worse then the PS2, although they are admittedly better then the DS, though the DS isn't shoddy itself). Until the PSP is 150-200 or less, it's a waste. You can get an iPod mini and DS for 350. A PSP with memory stick that can hold ANY sort of decent music library, will run you 250 + 89 to 120 dollars for a SanDisk DUO or whatever that junk is that the PSP uses. To match the iPod mini capacity, you are lookint at 600 to 700 dollars, at the least, for your PSP... and you have to swap memory sticks. The movies, yes, the PSP user has that... the graphics? yeah, the PSP user has that... but, I would never watch a movie on a 4.3 inch screen anyway, and graphics are nothing without gameplay or innovative games. Not to mention the DS easily has twice the battery power then the PSP, and a replacement battery you can swap out is only 10 bucks for the DS (imported) (the PSP battery last I checked is around 60). You can go ahead and take your chances with getting dead pixels and a shoddy square button (nice 'design' feature Sony, y'all are just a regular genius), I'll take my iPod (or other good MP3 player) and DS over the PSP piece of junk. (But, like I said, if the PSP were 150, I might consider getting it, IF games come out for it that are decent and innovative, not just PS2 ports.... but I don't see that happening anytime soon)
Something is seriously wrong with your ds if it crashes or if the screen vibrates because of the speakers. As for the graphics of n64 mario 64 vs ds mario64, you have got to be kidding me. Go look at some screenshot differences. The DS one is miles ahead of the n64 one.
And people who dislike the ds because of graphic power: The difference between the ds and the psp is no greater than the difference between the ps2 and the xbox, and that didnt stop the ps2 from winning the console wars.
And people who dislike the ds because of graphic power: The difference between the ds and the psp is no greater than the difference between the ps2 and the xbox, and that didnt stop the ps2 from winning the console wars.
No it's not. The DS has really crappy filtering. If they fixed that I would have been fine. And the DS is pushed with Mario64DS, or at least it is coded badly, I experience slow down many times.
VIAN,
Once again, you must have something wrong with your DS. Mine and everyone else's (that I know of) are fine. This is my first hearing of crashing or slowdowns, or speaker-induced vibrations on a DS. Try to return yours on the grounds of the crashing.
Once again, you must have something wrong with your DS. Mine and everyone else's (that I know of) are fine. This is my first hearing of crashing or slowdowns, or speaker-induced vibrations on a DS. Try to return yours on the grounds of the crashing.
Yeah, he quite simply has broken hardware. But he's too bullheaded to recognize this fact and go and simply get a replacement. He'd rather post rants about his broken hardware and extrapolate it as being evidence for the experience for all DS players, when in fact I've heard of very few problems with the DS from a hardware quality standpoint.
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you contridict yourself. First you say PSP has almost ALL rehashed games, yet you then boast about Mario kart, animal crossing, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Metroid, and Castlevania? PUHHLEASE.
PSP's games are totally new, just using names like Gran Tursimo mobile (this will NOT be GT4), and Need For Speed RIVALS (it is NOT Underground 2), and Wipeout: Pure is new, it's totally different to Wipeout 2. I'll admit, there are a few games that are ported, like Tiger Woods Golf, but you cant blame that on Sony, that's EA's game, THEY ported it.
And the PSP does NOT have a 3 hour MAXIMUM play time...it is 3-6 hours, depending on what you play. SPiderman 2 can be displayed in WIDE SCREEN HD at 3.5 hours. Wipeout Pure can be played for upto 5 hours on ONE charge. BUT, even IF it is 3.5 hours, why complain? You have a HD screen doing motion blur, bloom, and vertex shading...ON A HANDHELD! Not to mention it's resolution is 480 x 272. PLUS it is a DVD player, an MP3 player, AND a photo viewer...AND it can hold upto 1.8GB on a UMD....which means longer games like Untold Legends. I am reading it is a LONG game. Oh yeah, how big of memory stick can a DS hold? a PSP has 2GB out NOW, and Sony is ramping up to 4GB (due out in the fall, I cant link you, it's on Sony's website forums). The PSP also has a longer Wireless range (100-300 ft).
Sure, the DS has a longer battery life, but let's see you plug a DVD player into the DS or a stereo and see how long that battery lasts. :roll:
PSP also can be upgraded via firmware (I dunno about DS, so...), it has a 333Mhz CPU and has USB 2.0 w/ 16x9 widescreen. Oh, and the PSP can web browse, and in May it can check email too....and Linux is on it's way for the PSP as well. (I did see Linux for DS too, though). Next firmware for PSP, we get a calendar, email client, web browser, contact lists,calculator, and notepad!
I have read, and even SAW on TV, where the DS has a VERY fragile flip up screen, and breaks off easily.
the only DOWNSIDE to the PSP is, it's screen is easily scratched.
Now for sales numbers.
DS sold 500,000 in it's first week of availability.
PSP sold 400,000 units it's first week.
the BIG difference is, the DS was being sold at holiday time, and PSP was sold in the spring. I say the PSP is doing VERY well. And it only gets better from here
Portable DVD player = $499.95 for Panasonic (playing movies)
Nintendo DS = $149.99 (to play games)
iPod = $299.99 (for MP3's)
Digital Camera = $149.99 (to view pictures)
PDA = $499.99 (to check email and browse the web)
PSP = $264.83 (tax included)
512MB memory stick = $54 (mwave.com)
which would you rather have?
Originally posted by: Shamrock
you contridict yourself. First you say PSP has almost ALL rehashed games, yet you then boast about Mario kart, animal crossing, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Metroid, and Castlevania? PUHHLEASE.
PSP's games are totally new, just using names like Gran Tursimo mobile (this will NOT be GT4), and Need For Speed RIVALS (it is NOT Underground 2), and Wipeout: Pure is new, it's totally different to Wipeout 2. I'll admit, there are a few games that are ported, like Tiger Woods Golf, but you cant blame that on Sony, that's EA's game, THEY ported it.
And the PSP does NOT have a 3 hour MAXIMUM play time...it is 3-6 hours, depending on what you play. SPiderman 2 can be displayed in WIDE SCREEN HD at 3.5 hours. Wipeout Pure can be played for upto 5 hours on ONE charge. BUT, even IF it is 3.5 hours, why complain? You have a HD screen doing motion blur, bloom, and vertex shading...ON A HANDHELD! Not to mention it's resolution is 480 x 272. PLUS it is a DVD player, an MP3 player, AND a photo viewer...AND it can hold upto 1.8GB on a UMD....which means longer games like Untold Legends. I am reading it is a LONG game. Oh yeah, how big of memory stick can a DS hold? a PSP has 2GB out NOW, and Sony is ramping up to 4GB (due out in the fall, I cant link you, it's on Sony's website forums). The PSP also has a longer Wireless range (100-300 ft).
Sure, the DS has a longer battery life, but let's see you plug a DVD player into the DS or a stereo and see how long that battery lasts. :roll:
PSP also can be upgraded via firmware (I dunno about DS, so...), it has a 333Mhz CPU and has USB 2.0 w/ 16x9 widescreen. Oh, and the PSP can web browse, and in May it can check email too....and Linux is on it's way for the PSP as well. (I did see Linux for DS too, though). Next firmware for PSP, we get a calendar, email client, web browser, contact lists,calculator, and notepad!
I have read, and even SAW on TV, where the DS has a VERY fragile flip up screen, and breaks off easily.
the only DOWNSIDE to the PSP is, it's screen is easily scratched.
Now for sales numbers.
DS sold 500,000 in it's first week of availability.
PSP sold 400,000 units it's first week.
the BIG difference is, the DS was being sold at holiday time, and PSP was sold in the spring. I say the PSP is doing VERY well. And it only gets better from here
Portable DVD player = $499.95 for Panasonic (playing movies)
Nintendo DS = $149.99 (to play games)
iPod = $299.99 (for MP3's)
Digital Camera = $149.99 (to view pictures)
PDA = $499.99 (to check email and browse the web)
PSP = $264.83 (tax included)
512MB memory stick = $54 (mwave.com)
which would you rather have?
an iPod mini is 100 less than what you quoted and has 12x the amount of storage space as the memory stick you added onto the PSP, and is a much better music player overall. The DS as a whole is a much more sturdy unit than the PSP. The PSP is certainly a very capable handheld gaming platform, but I absolutely hate it when people portray it as the second coming of christ when in reality it is a very capable portable from a graphics standpoint, but a fairly mediocre media player (the screen is decent, but it's support of different audio and video formats is rather lacking, and it just isn't all that versatile on this front compared to something like a Pocket PC.
And I'd also like to know where in the hell you found a portable DVD player for $500? They are under $150 all the time. If you really want an accurate comparison setup, it would be this.
Pocket PC (for movies, viewing photos, music, organizer functionality, web browsing, even quite a few different games) for 200
sd or cf card for anywhere from 30ish to 100ish (although gig cards are frequently in the 70 and less range)
Nintendo DS (for gaming alone) for 150
vs. PSP (for movies, photos, music (no real web browsing or organizer functionality at this time, and when they will have it it will be incredibly limited to a wifi equipped pocket PC), and graphically delightful games for 250
plus a memory stick for anywhere from 50-150 depending on size
When put in this comparison, the PSP is neck and neck with the DS/pocket PC as an overall media center, but still lacks the same versatility that the Pocket PC and all of the free/paid apps will give you and the novelty provided by the DS touch screen/dual screen gaming
but the PSP has better graphics and the advantage of being a single device
overall, there is room for both handhelds to succeed, and I'm interested in seeing how they both do
Shamrock
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my apologies aboutt he ipod price quote, that was for the full size unit (10GB).
I disagree on the DS is more sturdy. I have used both, and the PSP is much sturdier.
I did not portray the PSP as the 2nd Coming of Christ...some people are just ranting on about how crappy PSP is, when in fact, it is a MUCH better unit than DS. And let's not bring Christ into it, because that's the best thing since sliced bread. Who says the media is lacking? my MP3's sound brilliant in my car...it's FAR from lacking, and even sounds better than my MP3 portable CD player (Same MP3, same bitrate). The movies on it, DO NOT ghost, as Lakku said, I did not see any ghosting at all from Spiderman2 (and I am a stickler about LCD's, I MUCH prefer CRT's). I could care less if it supports any other media besides MP3, that is most common anyway. And the FREE apps you can get on the web can convert ACC to MP3 and such.
I found a portable DVD player, made by Panasonic, on Amazon for $499.95, albeit, it has a 7" screen though. The cheapest PocketPC I could find is straight from HP, for $235, BUT you had to buy it along with a regular PC (or laptop)...list price for SAME PocketPC is $349! And since when did the DS be compatible with a PocketPC? if they cant, it isnt a fair comparison at all. Last I knew, the NintenDONT DS has to be bought seperate from a pocket PC, and they cant interact with a DS. NOT making it an overall media center, such as a PSP. Let's also not forget the FREE apps the PSP has already, and it's been out all of 10 days?
I dont see how the stylus on a DS is even handy. It's a marketing gimmick. It's also FAR from 478 x 272.
I have played a DS, I'm not enthusiastic about it. the resolution absolutely sucks.
the only advantage DS has over PSP is battery life, but at the expense of crappy graphics and lower resolution, shorter wireless distance, AND no media player. But for $50, you can get a 10 hour pattery pack (external) and use the PSP for 13-16 hours! (along with existing battery).
It is mentioned MANY time that the DS is a little boy's toy, and even Nintendo themselves say they are a "family oriented" company. TV shows are even saying DS is for kids.
Pocket PCs can frequently be had in the $150-200 range. The PSP is not a portable DVD player. It plays UMDs which are almost guaranteed to fail as a movie distribution format. Movies must be watched via memory cards for the most part, so the Pocket PC is the most direct comparison. A Pocket PC/DS combination gives you a much better music management/playback interface then the PSP does. An iPod/DS combo gives you an outstanding interface and the ability to again play a wider variety of music formats, but you sacrifice video playback for player capacity. I did admit previously that you would be using two separate devices. But this is not necessarily a drawback, as in many ways the PSP is a true jack of all trades/master of none (although the graphics capabilities are fairly impressive. The DS does have a lower single screen resolution, but it has two screens and encourages developers to use both combined with the stylus input for some fairly original games (stylus input can work quite well for games - check out Age of Empires on the Pocket PC for a decent demonstration). The DS is a more durable machine overall. The screen is protected in travel much better than the PSP/bag combo. Their is no optical drive, hence no moving parts (other than buttons) to break. And Nintendo has a historical track record for releasing hardware that trumps sony hardware on the durability front. That is an undeniable fact.
I didn't realize that being a family oriented company somehow precluded Nintendo towards having more adult themed games. Apparently families consist solely of the under 15 crowd, huh? Don't blindly buy into the Sony marketing hype. Better graphics and the ability to beat down a hooker in GTA does not inherently make your console/handheld aimed at older gamers. In many ways I would argue that those 'mature' situations actually represent much more of an immature mindset rather than the maturity involved in pushing forward game design through innovative/original ideas such as games that utilitze two screens, a microphone, a touch screen, etc.
Both handhelds can, and will succeed. I just get irked when people go around and over or under represent the particular qualities and nature of a machine and its software library.
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I got my PSP on Friday with a 512MB Memory Stick Pro Duo, and Wipeout: Pure, and all I can say is WOW! My friend has a DS, and I just dislike the controls so much. The Stylus is hard to use, and it's too big for my liking. I haven't found any DS games that I like besides Metroid, and I have a Gamecube already. I don't need that. I have four dead pixels, but I don't even notice them at all (I played Wipeout for about an hour until I saw them). They are so small that I can look over them in an all black screen, where they would be perfectly visible if they were on a bigger moniter. I don't notice any ghosting, but then again, I come from a using a laptop with a 40ms response time that I have grown to deal with (I can see trails if I press up when browsing the web, LOL). My desktop has a 2405FPW, but I only use that when gaming and watching TV (MIT dorms don't give me enough space for a bigger TV). I liked the DS when both systems were just coming out (before I had used one), but after playing games on both, I realized that the PSP is the superior GAMING handheld. The multimedia extras are just that--extras. Wipeout: Pure is a better game than anything on the DS, and Ridge Racer is too, it was just sold out at all three stores that would have it at the mall. When GT Mobile comes out, that will add onto the ensamble of good racing games even more.
My point about rehashed games is that the PSP games, while not EXACT ports, are the same format and mostly same gameplay. Sure, maybe they have different tracks or levels, but they are far from totally different. Also, the games I listed are all of the same respective families of games, and play similar, but have completely different story lines and/or characters, not to mention added features like spell casting using the touch screen in Castevania, and other innovative ways to use the touch screen to make it more then just a precise movement device. The PSP games are the same rehashed crap that is on every console, and they have NO way of getting around this. Are you really happy playing the same games with the same controls over and over again? My point was that the DS introduces new ways to actually PLAY, thus changing gameplay. The potential of the DS is far greater then the PSP, and the PSP is far from a well built unit. Just read up on Japanese units having the UMD tray popping open and the discs flying out. Perhaps this is fixed, but, can you really be sure? The last thing is the point that the 'DVD' capabilities of the PSP are moot. It's not DVD quality, and is highly compressed. And the PSP screen, while high resolution, still ghosts, just watch Spider Man 2, you'll see it if you know what to look for. And I will state again, those specs you are using are NOT what the PSP is CURRENTLY using in its games. If it used its full power, battery life would be down to 2 to 3 hours max. You get decent battery life due to speed stepping like technologies that help reduce frequency when that much power isnt needed, thus reducing power drain. You may never realize the full potential of your handheld unless Sony releases a better battery. I know the good side of the PSP and can see where it would do well for someone, but lets be honest; to make the PSP a gaming platform AND a media player, touting this as a reason the PSP is better, you need to buy a lot of EXPENSIVE extras. You will be coming close to 500 to 600 dollars to make the PSP decent at movie or MP3 playback (that is, enough space for a good ammount of songs and/or movies). Like I said, iPod + DS = better value and MUCH higher song storage. The iPod mini is more then small enough to be able to carry around along with your DS, plus, you could listen to music and play games at the same time if you didn't need DS sound. I'll state it again.... 250 dollars is just too much to pay for shoddy workmenship, rampant issues with dead pixels (much less the fact Sony had the audacity to say "we may or may not fix it and may or may not send you a refurbished unit"), or the non anti-glare screen (way to not put anti glare on a unit you take OUTSIDE). The DS also has much more GAMING potential as it has innovative ways to play and isn't the same games over and over again played the same way. (PS - If you can't stand the stylus, I have a hard time using it myself, get a screen protector and use your finger or thumb... feels better and works better for me, without messing up the screen!).
Realistic cost of a PSP-
PSP 'Value Pack'- $250
Carrying Case for the PSP- $15(included case is nigh useless)
Earbuds - $35(included earbuds are very poor quality)
Mem Card- $60(obviously 32MB is pretty useless)
About $360.
For MP3 playback a 512MB me card can get you about 10 hours worth of music, about as long as the batteries would last on any MP3 player. You also have the choice of ripping movies to the PSP which really is pretty easy with a couple of aps, and you have the most powerful portable gaming solution next to a DTR notebook which runs significantly more cash then the PSP. Obviously, the PSP is very fragile and has QC issues that you would never experience from a company more concerned about quality, but given the price of the unit that should reasonably be expected. I honestly wouldn't mind paying an extra $100 for a PSP that was produced by Matsushita or Nintendo to make sure I wouldn't run in to Sony problems. All of that said about quality issues, the PSP isn't as fragile as an iPod or any other HD based MP3 player.
The DS ATM is coming up very short on the media playback end in the US as of now as Nintendo hasn't released the tools to enable it, nor have they released any of the PDA style applications to move it beyond anything but a handheld gaming device as of this moment. Clearly the DS has gone through significantly tighter QC then the PSP, though that shouldn't surprise anyone, the unit is also designed for much higher levels of fault tollerance then the PSP(dropping the DS while playing a game it doesn't skip a beat, something my nine year old has proven on numerous occasions).
Both the PSP and the DS are very capable machines in doing what they are designed to do, they are simply designed to do different things. Nintendo's big weakness is they are trying to pull off a 'staged launch' introducing new capabilities of the machine at a later date, likely to differentiate it from the next GameBoy. Sony's big problem, as has been the case for some time, is their extremely poor build quality. Neither of them are perfect, but both of them are still more then capable of doing what they are supposed to do. Personally, as of this point in time my PSP is going everywhere with me, the media playback is what really keeps me using the machine all the time. The games available for it are OK, at least RR is an amusing distraction(WipeoutPure is quite overrated IMO, F-Zero spoiled me). Mario on the DS is better then any game available on the PSP that I have played, but it isn't enough to keep me that interested in the machine for too long.
PSP 'Value Pack'- $250
Carrying Case for the PSP- $15(included case is nigh useless)
Earbuds - $35(included earbuds are very poor quality)
Mem Card- $60(obviously 32MB is pretty useless)
About $360.
For MP3 playback a 512MB me card can get you about 10 hours worth of music, about as long as the batteries would last on any MP3 player. You also have the choice of ripping movies to the PSP which really is pretty easy with a couple of aps, and you have the most powerful portable gaming solution next to a DTR notebook which runs significantly more cash then the PSP. Obviously, the PSP is very fragile and has QC issues that you would never experience from a company more concerned about quality, but given the price of the unit that should reasonably be expected. I honestly wouldn't mind paying an extra $100 for a PSP that was produced by Matsushita or Nintendo to make sure I wouldn't run in to Sony problems. All of that said about quality issues, the PSP isn't as fragile as an iPod or any other HD based MP3 player.
The DS ATM is coming up very short on the media playback end in the US as of now as Nintendo hasn't released the tools to enable it, nor have they released any of the PDA style applications to move it beyond anything but a handheld gaming device as of this moment. Clearly the DS has gone through significantly tighter QC then the PSP, though that shouldn't surprise anyone, the unit is also designed for much higher levels of fault tollerance then the PSP(dropping the DS while playing a game it doesn't skip a beat, something my nine year old has proven on numerous occasions).
Both the PSP and the DS are very capable machines in doing what they are designed to do, they are simply designed to do different things. Nintendo's big weakness is they are trying to pull off a 'staged launch' introducing new capabilities of the machine at a later date, likely to differentiate it from the next GameBoy. Sony's big problem, as has been the case for some time, is their extremely poor build quality. Neither of them are perfect, but both of them are still more then capable of doing what they are supposed to do. Personally, as of this point in time my PSP is going everywhere with me, the media playback is what really keeps me using the machine all the time. The games available for it are OK, at least RR is an amusing distraction(WipeoutPure is quite overrated IMO, F-Zero spoiled me). Mario on the DS is better then any game available on the PSP that I have played, but it isn't enough to keep me that interested in the machine for too long.
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oh really? Untold Legends, Medieval, and Lumines come to mind? you conveniently left out those original PSP titles, and as far as I know Lumines is bigger than tetris when it came out. (the women are loving it, especially).
I also know EXACTLY how fast the CPU is going. 222Mhz to be exact, but Sony said that is fast enough for current crop of games, and when developers pump out more games in the fall, they will release Firmware to jump it to 333Mhz. I have Spiderman 2 and have watched it in full, and have seen NO ghosting whatsoever.
The potential of the DS is just that, your dual screen, and how often you gotta buy stylus'. If you get caught up in a game and hit the screen with thstylus too hard, POW, a dent. cost of new screen maybe? I dont see this as potential, evolvement, innovation, or changing gameplay.
Please keep reading about Sony's quality control. You are quoting the Japanese units (which were the test bed and "beta tests"). The North American units' UMD's do not flop open, and the Square button is fixed (you didnt know about Japanese units square button sticking?) Both are fixed in USA versions.
The ipod mini + DS may get more song storage, but you have to carry around 2 devices...3 if you want PDA functions. I still carry around one.
About the dead pixels. Sony said no such things about whether they would not fix the pixels. They stated that to give the dead pixel a week or two, if it doesnt come to life, they would replace it free (you only pay shipping, but most people return the unit)
So far I have spent a total of under $300 and have this:
PSP unit = $264.83
Hard aluminum case w/ padding inside and sleeves = $9.99
starter kit including car charger, protective anti sctratch film, and new ear buds (but they really suck) = $14.99
Items I already owned= USB cable, and car adapter for cassettes.
The only other thing I need is a memory stick, the 32MB doesnt cut it, so for only $54 more I am going to get a 512MB stick.
I think it's more than enough to pay for a gaming console/music player/photo viewer/video player..wow 4 devices...for under $350!
BTW, can the DS do motion blur, bloom effects, vertex shadowing, and water effects? AND run a 4.3" HD screen, AND run music, play videos, games, photos, and still run on that one battery? Mine can.
DS owners can keep self justifying your purchases when PSP owners revel in the fact they got a deal at $249.99. I talk to people all the time that own both and they havent turned their DS on since getting the PSP...a few have even SOLD their iPod's. Until you OWN a PSP, you dont know HOW a ds stands up to a PSP....Ben does, coz he owns both. But look at Ben's last statement.
Oh wow! now an IRC client for PSP!
www.pspirc.com
There are rumors going around that Logitech might release a recordable UMD unit, and they are working on a digital camera too..the accessories are endless (almost).
I'm done with this, until you guys do more research.
@ BenSkywalker. PSP Video 9 is AWESOME for converting movies...avi, and MPG, and I think next release will support wmv.
God bless,
Shamrock
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