2006 called, it wants its edit of the previous posters reply joke back. Still not entirely sure what you point is though.. you say you don't want the guy with dementia packing heat, and then say its no nursing home would allow it. Ok.. so its a problem or its not? Can you make an argument that makes sense please?
Anways, in this example this person stopped a dangerous criminal. I guess you would rather have it that the 71 year old was shot and the criminal gets away just so you can say guns are bad.
Red Dawn
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I never said guns were bad. My comment goes back to another post by some knuckle head who said that those who died that week might have not if they were packing heat.I was pointing out how asinine that comment was as the victims were 6 or 7 children killed by their fathers, some in a nursing home, some immigrants and 3 pistol packing cops.
My father turns 82 tomorrow and he owns a pistol he inherited from my grandfather. I'll probably inherit it when he passes but I'll just sell it or have it melted down as I have no need for it. If I want to go shoot a gun I'll just rent one at the gun range.
Why would you melt down a piece of history? Give your father my information so his gun can go to someone who will appreciate the history of it and not melt it down. That gun may have saved the lives of your father or grandfather at some point, or those they served with if they were in the military.
Red Dawn
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LOL, it's POS Saturday Night Special my Grandfather bought because he use to carry around a lot of cash. I don't even think he ever registered it and I know my father hasn't. If I ever decided I wanted a gun I'd get something better than that though I doubt I will.
Look I don't have a problem with guns as long as those who have them are mentally stable and responsible.
Vic
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How can you claim to care when your only reaction would be a knee-jerk reaction to ban guns? Ironically, your analogy to drunk driving is more perfect than you seem to realize. We have strict laws prohibiting drunk driving, yet people do it anyway. We have even stricter and harsher laws against murder... yet people do that anyway. Maybe... just maybe... the real cowardice stems from those who think the solution to every problem is to just pass some new law, ban, or prohibition... and then wash their hands of the issue. It's as though the solution to drunk driving were to ban cars.
umbrella39
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Vic - where did I say, or even hint, that my reaction would be to ban guns? Your reaction is the typical 'gun-lover' reaction - any discussion that might, in the slightest way, shape, or form - cast guns in a 'bad light' is immediately dismissed as a 'ban guns' discussion.
perhaps I should start a thread about problems with reading comprehension?
perhaps I should start a thread about problems with reading comprehension?
brandonbull
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That's the problem in this country. We have plenty of laws in the books but we don't like to enforce them. The common solution is to make more laws instead of enforcing the current set.
How many of the 9/11 hijackers should have been taken care of before 9/11 if the authorities would have done their jobs to begin with? Nobody wants to blame the system for failing us because it's much easier to make more laws and say Mission Accomplished.
Suicides accounted for 55 percent of the nation's nearly 31,000 firearm deaths in 2005. 15,000 mentally sick individuals are removed every year from society. why do you want to stop that.
I've noticed the same thing NeoV - I am often told on these forums that I want to ban guns, where in reality the most I ever suggested was a licence test along the lines of a driving test, and actually I'd quite like to own a rifle. Nobody seems interested in the truth though. It's much easier to argue against an imaginary extremist than actually read peoples' posts.
How about this, are anti-aircraft weapons illegal in the states? They are?!? GUN BAN! GUN BAN! :laugh:
The only real objection to this from most people is the danger of licensing/registration/tracking. If you could find a way to implement this while allowing gun owners to feel that it wouldn't be used for more seizures in the future, most would probably agree (there will always be some out there that don't believe in compromise). I personally have no issues with it, and have long been a proponent of required safety classes for ownership/carry.
BoberFett
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And you're from the UK where they're going to track every email from every citizen. You wouldn't known anything about the slippery slope, would you...
The day that citizens are required to pass a test to get a license before they can speak in public is the day I'll support firearms license testing.
Come on, meet me halfway. If you want to keep morons from owning guns, keep morons from tainting the air with their idiotic drivel.
As if I support that shit...
There is something of a difference between speaking and shooting...
Are you against driving tests?
In some parts of the world, its easier to get an automatic weapon then to speak your mind. Vocal opponents are dangerous and dictators have killed many to stay in power (e.g., Sadam, Iran, N. Korea, etc).
Yes, freedom of speech is powerful. Usually however, freedom of speech is only available if there is force to allow it to happen. Freedom of speech and the 2nd amendment go hand and hand. That is why both are in the constitution. Passing a test to get a license for a firearm is like passing a test to get a license to speak. Both limit your rights. Both limit the freedom of the average citizen.
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