Nice to see liberals acting like conseratives

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Jaskalas

Lifer
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You want to force the government and other taxpayers to do it for you since you don't do it on your own.

Wall Street does not do it, not anymore. The proper aim of our countrymen should be to correct that.

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bshole

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It really has gone full circle. Liberals are the new outdated-thinking conservatives. I was thinking about posting about this actually. Liberal ideology has for so long been the mainstream that I think the real counter culture that is rising goes against their outdated views. Today the liberals push for institutionalized racist policies like affirmative action and handicap some demographics with social programs. Today the liberals are intolerant of any thinking outside their very strict and totalitarian views. Today it is the liberals that will fight tooth and nail to shut down free speech to a public audience they find distasteful or don't agree with. The liberals ignore parts of the constitution to push for their partisan views. And they're worse to Trump than the right was to Obama. The left really has to do some soul searching.

LoL, yea your parents are probably suffering mightily cashing those Social Security checks. I would love to see Republican politicians attempt to gut SS. I can't think of a faster way of kicking them to the curb than that.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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Of course not, private charities and churches step up to help people. Much like Chick-fil-a stepped forward to help travelers in Atlanta.
Exactly, it's just another faux religion, pie in the sky, we'll all be better when we force you to do this horsecrap.

You cheer feeding people a single meal, as you work to stop us from feeding them for a lifetime.
 

OWR88

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Democrats are the conservative responsible party . It has been for sometime. They just don't pretend to be,.They actually are trying to be.

Republicans....Ugh
 
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You cheer feeding people a single meal, as you work to stop us from feeding them for a lifetime.
Show me in the Constitution where it says charity should be forced on citizens at the point of a gun. You and I are welcome to provide as much or as little support as we choose, you're the ones that want to remove the choice and take it by force.
 

urvile

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Show me in the Constitution where it says charity should be forced on citizens at the point of a gun. You and I are welcome to provide as much or as little support as we choose, you're the ones that want to remove the choice and take it by force.

What is wrong with supporting your fellow citizens man? Not everyone has the same opportunities in life. As an example I paid 50k in tax last year but I know a significant portion goes to helping people who otherwise wouldn't be able to pay for health care/medication etc. I also donate basic things like shoes and clothing to charity. I don't have a problem with it. We are all part of the same society taj and some of us do better than others. Giving back is a good thing not a bad thing.

That 50k in tax I paid went into a variety of things from primary, high school and university education to public health care which includes subsiding expensive medication. I worked hard to get where I am so where is the harm in giving back? As a student I was on the receiving end of it.

It's the way the system works in aus and it isn't really delineated along party lines.
 
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Of course not, private charities and churches step up to help people. Much like Chick-fil-a stepped forward to help travelers in Atlanta. You want to force the government and other taxpayers to do it for you since you don't do it on your own.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/18/chick-fil-a-feeding-stranded-atlanta-passengers-on-a-sunday/

Multi million dollar company feeds one meal to 2000 middle class people "stranded" in the wilds of Atlanta. Hallelujah! Praise God. It's a miracle. That's not charity you jackass. That's public relations.
 

Meghan54

Lifer
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You forgot about them trying to rewrite history by defacing our national monuments and removing anything they find distasteful for any reason or no reason at all.

We don't record our history via monuments. We record our history by writing it down. Monuments exist solely to aggrandize a particular person/event/etc., not record/preserve history.

What you profess in your quote above is that if we remove monuments, then that person's/event's history is erased, right? So, logically, if we remove the Lincoln Memorial in DC, the Lincoln Center in NYC, etc., we'd immediately forget all about Lincoln and the emancipation of the slaves, the Civil War, etc., right?

Loon. History is recorded in books, not monuments.
 

pmv

Lifer
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Only thing I don't know is whether Taj and Spyder are part of the small minority who are doing well with things as they are, or if they are just so vain that they like to imagine that they are. Either way, nothing they say really matters other than on the level of being personally mildly irritating/laughable.
 

pmv

Lifer
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You forgot about them trying to rewrite history by defacing our national monuments and removing anything they find distasteful for any reason or no reason at all.

Every time past propaganda, say, an election poster or an advert (or a mass-produced bit of propaganda in the form of a statue), is taken down its 'rewriting history'? Do you feel the same way about tidying up your house or redecorating? 'Oh, I can't clean this carpet after the cat threw up on it, it would be rewriting history'. Are you really this stupid or is it just an act?
 
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pmv

Lifer
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It really has gone full circle. Liberals are the new outdated-thinking conservatives. I was thinking about posting about this actually. Liberal ideology has for so long been the mainstream that I think the real counter culture that is rising goes against their outdated views. Today the liberals push for institutionalized racist policies like affirmative action and handicap some demographics with social programs. Today the liberals are intolerant of any thinking outside their very strict and totalitarian views. Today it is the liberals that will fight tooth and nail to shut down free speech to a public audience they find distasteful or don't agree with. The liberals ignore parts of the constitution to push for their partisan views. And they're worse to Trump than the right was to Obama. The left really has to do some soul searching.

Conservative ideology has been dominant since at least the 80s, so I don't really get your point. The interesting thing is how self-defeating that ideology is turning out to be. It's own supporters are angry that they don't seem to be doing very well out of it. I cite the angry upset conservative posters on here, who sound remarkably bitter and angry for people who have been 'winning' for so long.
 

Thebobo

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bshole

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Show me in the Constitution where it says charity should be forced on citizens at the point of a gun. You and I are welcome to provide as much or as little support as we choose, you're the ones that want to remove the choice and take it by force.

There are plenty of countries that don't have a safety net for the poorest in their society. We call them 3rd world countries. What ideal bastions of freedom they are....

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I know that you and yours would prefer that America's poor starve to death rather than be forced at the point of a gun to help them out. You represent a minority opinion.
 

umbrella39

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Only thing I don't know is whether Taj and Spyder are part of the small minority who are doing well with things as they are, or if they are just so vain that they like to imagine that they are. Either way, nothing they say really matters other than on the level of being personally mildly irritating/laughable.

They will be obsolete in the world that is coming. The tidal wave of progression is starting to crash down all around them. They are scared. Nothing motivates the defective conservative brain more than fear. These are just the dying whimpers we are reading from sock puppet trolls who think they can stop the ebb and flow... By 2045 whites will no longer be the majority in the country. The country will turn purple, then blue.... and they have done so well in wooing minorities over to their side... By 2100, those who still insist on being filled with fear and hate for their fellow Americans, will be relegated to certain small sections of the country where their type is still tolerated...
 

fskimospy

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Show me in the Constitution where it says charity should be forced on citizens at the point of a gun. You and I are welcome to provide as much or as little support as we choose, you're the ones that want to remove the choice and take it by force.

I’m consistently amazed at how little conservatives understand the constitution, considering how often they cite it.
 

umbrella39

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I’m consistently amazed at how little conservatives understand the constitution, considering how often they cite it.

It's only a shell game they play. They wave the parts they like in one hand while wiping their ass with the Constitution with the other... Even the parts they like for themselves are sometimes not reserved for the people they hate though... it's sickening.
 

fskimospy

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It's only a shell game they play. They wave the parts they like in one hand while wiping their ass with the Constitution with the other... Even the parts they like for themselves are sometimes not reserved for the people they hate though... it's sickening.

It’s mostly transparently stupid things like what Taj said above. The constitution doesn’t say anything about providing for the poor. It does, however, set up a system of enacting laws that we can use to help the poor if we want. That was the whole point. He’s either too stupid to realize this or too dishonest.
 
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SlowSpyder

Lifer
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LoL, yea your parents are probably suffering mightily cashing those Social Security checks. I would love to see Republican politicians attempt to gut SS. I can't think of a faster way of kicking them to the curb than that.


I don't believe my parents had a choice but to pay into social security their entire working lives. Why wouldn't they take their share out of it later? Both my parents are still working, paying taxes helping to support others that have been duped into not providing for themselves, too... as am I. I pay well into the five figure range when combining state and fed taxes as well as social security. I contribute to the system, I have a right to complain.

But nothing you said changes the reality that the left have become the new out-dated racist, totalitarian, conservative thinking of today.
 
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Show me in the Constitution where it says charity should be forced on citizens at the point of a gun. You and I are welcome to provide as much or as little support as we choose, you're the ones that want to remove the choice and take it by force.
Dude, your heartlessness towards others is well noted and established. No need to dig your heels in deeper. We get it, you're a prick.
Me, personally, I would much rather my tax dollars went to the needy rather than the military industrial complex or help corporations in any way. But the only way I can have a say in where my tax dollars go is by voting for someone who has roughly the same ideologies I have. And drumpf is SO fucking far from that mark it's sickening.
 
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I don't believe my parents had a choice but to pay into social security their entire working lives. Why wouldn't they take their share out of it later? Both my parents are still working, paying taxes helping to support others that have been duped into not providing for themselves, too... as am I. I pay well into the five figure range when combining state and fed taxes as well as social security. I contribute to the system, I have a right to complain.

But nothing you said changes the reality that the left have become the new out-dated racist, totalitarian, conservative thinking of today.
No matter how many times you try to gaslight people with this ridiculously inaccurate, fabrication of what the left is, it's convincing no one but you and those who follow your twisted thinking.

I could trot out the numerous times drumpf has made blatantly racist statements, but your bubble will rebuke them, along with the people he's backed (moore comes to mind, along with sessions, and perry). Keep spinning it though. Firmly entrench yourself in drumpfs camp. Definitely the right side of history to be one spidey.
 

Moonbeam

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LOL everybody is speaking, that's a lot of the problem. Anyone can say anything on social media and other idiots start to believe it and parrot it.
Isn't that a fact. I keep finding millions of people posting there who actually believe the sky is blue just because they read that of facebook. People keep blowing this stuff out their ass like they actually knew something. But smart people like me and you know it's actually green because we saw it with our own eyes by observing through coke bottle lenses.
 

Jhhnn

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Show me in the Constitution where it says charity should be forced on citizens at the point of a gun. You and I are welcome to provide as much or as little support as we choose, you're the ones that want to remove the choice and take it by force.

It's in the preamble-

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Insure domestic tranquillity & provide for the general welfare.

Civilization has its price. Ours suffers from the indulgence of malevolent greed at the top & a lot of self righteous stupidity among arch conservatives. Try a different perspective, like "There but for the grace of God go I".