Nice! HP's new budget IPS 27" 2560x1440

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Mana

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You need to read the review.

There is no HDMI on this monitor its not for consoles.

And the target market is professional so you would be expected to have a hardware calibrator available.

I picked up a spyder 3 express last year for like $120 and it was worth it. I hate using uncalibrated monitors now.

For gaming, I was under the impression that hardware calibrators like the Spyder 3 didn't work well since games have a tendency to reset the colour settings you have while playing. Has this changed?
 

wahdangun

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seeing IPAD3 have 2048 x 1536 display, these thing is still wayyy over priced and its really silly that computer display is behind a frickin tablet. i hate current display offering, they should have come out 4K display already.
 

imaheadcase

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seeing IPAD3 have 2048 x 1536 display, these thing is still wayyy over priced and its really silly that computer display is behind a frickin tablet. i hate current display offering, they should have come out 4K display already.

You still don't understand about monitors scaling do you?
 

Anubis

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seeing IPAD3 have 2048 x 1536 display, these thing is still wayyy over priced and its really silly that computer display is behind a frickin tablet. i hate current display offering, they should have come out 4K display already.


9.7 inches is not equal to 27 inches last time i checked
 

KompuKare

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increase font size ftw

If only it were that simple: Windows still doesn't handle font scaling perfectly and I sort of expect that it never will without a totally new GDI. Certainly setting the font setting to say 150% seems to catch out at least the occasional program which means anytime I've tried it, I've had to go back to normal DPI :-(

Another thing from that 'retina' display on the new ipad: higher resolution means more light gets blocked off (the nature of LCDs) which means a brighter backlight, more heat etc.
 

Makaveli

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For gaming, I was under the impression that hardware calibrators like the Spyder 3 didn't work well since games have a tendency to reset the colour settings you have while playing. Has this changed?

This is correct from what I remember.
 

Mana

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This is correct from what I remember.

Hm, interesting. I heard rumours about a version of Spyder or some other calibration tool that can refresh the colour profiles occasionally so that your colour settings would take effect in game. I suppose this doesn't exist then?

I ask because I was considering buying this monitor, but this is the one big hiccup :p
 

bigpow

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Pulled the trigger on this baby last night from BH.
For half of the NEC that I was going for, this could either be a boon or a bust. Worth the risk to try - I figure.
 

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If only it were that simple: Windows still doesn't handle font scaling perfectly and I sort of expect that it never will without a totally new GDI. Certainly setting the font setting to say 150% seems to catch out at least the occasional program which means anytime I've tried it, I've had to go back to normal DPI :-(

Another thing from that 'retina' display on the new ipad: higher resolution means more light gets blocked off (the nature of LCDs) which means a brighter backlight, more heat etc.

wouldn't windows 8 need that ability in order to properly handle scaling on tablets? or will that just be metro compatible programs?
 

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Hm, interesting. I heard rumours about a version of Spyder or some other calibration tool that can refresh the colour profiles occasionally so that your colour settings would take effect in game. I suppose this doesn't exist then?

I ask because I was considering buying this monitor, but this is the one big hiccup :p

For games that reset the loaded icc profile, you can tab out and reload the profiles after you start the game. If a game resets them, it usually does it at startup and tabbing in/out doesn't. I use a batch file to reload the profiles (using ArgyllCMS's dispwin binary). I haven't had any problems doing it that way. Using Girder, a usb-uirt (ir reciever), and an ir remote I don't even have to tab out to reload my profiles. It could probably be done with AutoHotkey as well. ArgyllCMS, a batch file, vbscript (to hide the console window), and AHK would be all you need to hotkey reloading the profiles.

It probably wouldn't be to hard to use Task Scheduler to routinely refresh the profile. But I prefer manually reloading since it's not always needed.
 

Gloomy

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I have a 27" 2560x1440 monitor. I bumped up the scaling by 9%. Like someone else mentioned, windows scales really bad and this panel is really massive, I think that bothers me more than the DPI honestly. I can't sit too close to this thing because it looms over me. Very intimidating. I have to wear glasses while sitting on the computer-- big nono, my eyes are hurting a lot.

It is fantastic otherwise though. :thumbsup:
 

bigpow

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would appreciate it if there's anyone willing to share their profile (before/after, what calibration device used, ICM file, etc)
 

tweakboy

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The only downer is it doesn't have a HDMI port. Which tells me this thing is as POS imo!

HP can go make printers,, HP devices will go bad cuz their made by another third party people in Asia. They used to use Sony technology on their HP monitor long time ago...

Also note your LED is 5ms to 8ms,, so it will be laggy when vsync is on doesnt matter what the refresh rate is.... :(
 
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Makaveli

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Hm, interesting. I heard rumours about a version of Spyder or some other calibration tool that can refresh the colour profiles occasionally so that your colour settings would take effect in game. I suppose this doesn't exist then?

I ask because I was considering buying this monitor, but this is the one big hiccup :p

Are you referring to this

 

chimaxi83

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The only downer is it doesn't have a HDMI port. Which tells me this thing is as POS imo!

HP can go make printers,, HP devices will go bad cuz their made by another third party people in Asia. They used to use Sony technology on their HP monitor long time ago...

Also note your LED is 5ms to 8ms,, so it will be laggy when vsync is on doesnt matter what the refresh rate is.... :(

Just about anyone who uses anything above 1080p is using Dual Link DVI or DisplayPort... Just sayin.
 

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Zap

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The only downer is it doesn't have a HDMI port. Which tells me this thing is as POS imo!

404 downer not found. HDMI is unable to support the high resolution that this monitor is capable of, so it is useless as an input for this monitor.
 

Gloomy

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Just out of curiosity, what are the base clocks for a 6950 on a 2560x1440 desktop? Mine won't downclock past 500Mhz. Wondering if this is normal.
 

chrisheinonen

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HDMI 1.4a can support 4K resolutions and this display resolution but chips with that support are really new and probably not available when it was designed. It would be a wasted expense as DL DVI and DP worked perfectly fine with it. Now a 27" display without DisplayPort, that's an issue.
 

KompuKare

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wouldn't windows 8 need that ability in order to properly handle scaling on tablets? or will that just be metro compatible programs?

No, I guess you are right. But yes, only Metro programs. The problem with the DPI scaling on current Windows programs seems to always be some dialogue box somewhere which fails to scale because of the way it was programmed; but I still blame Windows for that since the GUI does not enforce scalability by design.

Haven't looked at Metro but I did look at the Android SDK and although the UI design tools seem poor (it's like they ignored the easy GUI drawing tools pioneered by Delphi / VB), it does look like Android is designed to scale. Problem is Metro is so dumbed down I can't see anyone using it...