nice bridge

[Northern Lawn]

It's not that we don't understand, it's we don't care about Canada politics. That's in contrast with Canadian's obsession with US politics.

You're just a impudent little cowboy keyboardist, I wouldn't spend the time pointing that out to you but I'm practicing my typing.

 

[brainhulk]

maybe the guys building the bridge were watching this http://youtu.be/t40fHb6v-7w

 

[CPA]

You're just a impudent little cowboy keyboardist, I wouldn't spend the time pointing that out to you but I'm practicing my typing.

Yeehaw!!!!

 

[MBentz]

You're just an impudent little cowboy keyboardist, I wouldn't spend the time pointing that out to you but I'm practicing my typing.

Keep practicing.

 

[K1052]

We have a combination of that here, the replacement span for the Bay Bridge that takes about 20 years (and still not finished), and materials fabricated and built in China.

Remind me not to cross that fucking bridge once it's done, probably in another decade.

The new eastern span will open next year. If the general public knew the decrepitude of the original bridge they wouldn't be crossing it either.

 

[drum]

Keep practicing.

nice
:thumbsup:

 

[dmcowen674]

They still make better quality stuff than lazy American workers do.

I'd rather have a shaky bridge built in a week, than a shoddy one built in 7 years and billions in greedy union scammed tax money for a bunch of no good lazy American workers.

You like China so much and hate America so much why don't you move the fuxk there?

You won't be missed here, that's for sure.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Shiit indeed.

http://americanmanufacturing.org/bl...board-campaign-takes-jab-steel-new-bay-bridge
http://shouldbemadeinamerica.com/

Where is the problem here? The first link mentions blames "faulty steel imported from China" for delays in construction, but links to something that does not support that claim at all. I see no reason to waste money on Americans to create raw materials and assemble them into relatively basic parts when we can have others desperate for work do it far less expensively.

 

[SSSnail]

Hey burgerboy, did you not see the collapsed bridge span? I thought that's evident enough, no?

Beside, it wasn't any cheaper. With project overrun, it's ending up costing more, and we lost all that money that could be used in OUR economy. You dense bro?

 

[Drako]

You like China so much and hate America so much why don't you move the fuxk there?

You won't be missed here, that's for sure.

Seriously?

This comment from "Dave 'everything around me sucks and life is horrible' McOwned"?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Hey burgerboy, did you not see the collapsed bridge span? I thought that's evident enough, no?

Evident of what? I don't see where the bridge's failure was directly linked to poor quality steel purchased from the same manufacturer that San Francisco purchased their steel from.

Beside, it wasn't any cheaper. With project overrun, it's ending up costing more, and we lost all that money that could be used in OUR economy. You dense bro?

Yes. Public infrastructure projects are never overrun and more expensive than expected. Everyone knows this.

 

[SSSnail]

You know, I'll just chalk this bridge collapse and six others up to poor quality of air. Air molecules didn't hold up their ends of the bargain, therefore bridges collapsed.

Or, perhaps the Chinese forgot that bridges aren't supposed to be disposable, like much everything else they produce.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You know, I'll just chalk this bridge collapse and six others up to poor quality of air. Air molecules didn't hold up their ends of the bargain, therefore bridges collapsed.

Or, perhaps the Chinese forgot that bridges aren't supposed to be disposable, like much everything else they produce.

Yes. The Chinese are inferior to Americans and incapable of creating anything. All they understand is blind following of orders, and due to an atheistic Communistic upbringing, they actually probably get their rocks off in watching their peers crushed to death with thousands of tons of steel and concrete.

 

[SSSnail]

So basically, you got nothing. Either that, or you're finally seeing the truth. :awe: I'm... SO... HAPPY... for you.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

So basically, you got nothing. Either that, or you're finally seeing the truth. :awe: I'm... SO... HAPPY... for you.

You didn't make a single argument outside of "Chinese, therefore bad". The bridge that collapsed in the op was DESIGNED as well as fabricated in China, and was built at a tenth the price despite being twice as long. Moreover, it was done in a country where human life is valued significantly less. How is that comparable to a bridge designed and ultimately constructed by Americans using Chinese parts, funded by one of the wealthiest and most safety-conscious states in the nation?

 

[SSSnail]

Maybe you missed that whole benefiting the economy and all the other bridges that collapsed. True that it's designed by US, but a product is only as good as the sum of its parts, and it's the parts that I have problem with. You don't think the Chinese copied designs from other countries in constructing their own bridges? I'm very certain that they did, they have a record for that sort of thing. So assuming the designs are sound, something else must be shitty.

Besides, it is true that "Chinese, therefore bad", unless you can show me anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

BTW, are you Chinese? The answer to this question would explain everything.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Maybe you missed that whole benefiting the economy and all the other bridges that collapsed.

You didn't give any convincing argument for how fabricating the parts domestically would have resulted in less expensive and shorter construction. I already provided an argument as to why your assumption of a Bay Bridge collapse predicated on Chinese bridge collapses is loose at best.

True that it's designed by US, but a product is only as good as the sums of its parts, and it's the parts that I have problem with. You don't think the Chinese copied designs from other countries in constructing their own bridges? I'm very certain that they did, they have a record for that sort of thing. So assuming the designs are sound, something else must be shitty.

Yes. All bridges can be reduced to a small number of designs, from which one is arbitrarily chosen and followed to a T. It's like deciding whether one wants a microATX, a full tower, or a server case. Just scale it up. So simple. Bridge design is the easy part. Manufacturing of steel bars is what is truly tricky and requires the greatest American minds.

Besides, it is true that "Chinese, therefore bad", unless you can show me anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai

 

[SSSnail]

Just answer my fucking question - are you Chinese? Because if you are, then it explains the retardation in your arguments.

 

[Red Squirrel]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai

That town is also sinking a little bit every year.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Just answer my fucking question - are you Chinese? Because if you are, then it explains the retardation in your arguments.

No, I'm fully Aryan. Now explain what is retarded about my arguments in a rational manner plz.

That town is also sinking a little bit every year.

So is Amsterdam.

 

[SSSnail]

No, I'm fully Aryan. Now explain what is retarded about my arguments in a rational manner plz.

So is Amsterdam.

Fair enough.

I never said it would be a shorter construction, my main arguments are that we'll get higher quality products, and it benefits OUR economy, at the same time.

I don't assume that we'll get inferior product, I know. You know how??? Look at everything they built recently, even their own fucking bridges. Also, I'm too lazy to dig up the threads, but you can Google to see the shoddy quality of their constructions. Everything from the new mega cities, bridges, toys, electronics, etc...

When you have a track record of producing SHITs, and your country is full of corruption, lack of oversight, lack of governance, etc... that just don't change overnight. You think they give a shit about producing the best parts using the best materials for a bridge that's going to be put together in America? Tell me what products you have that are made in China, that last?

When you have a record of copying, plagiarizing, forgery, stealing, imitate, etc... that just don't change overnight. Looking at their bridge designs, they're no different than others that you see anywhere in the Western world. I wouldn't be surprised if they stole the blueprint off some other countries.

I stopped buying Chinese made products a while back. It gets annoying when you have to replace them every now and then, and now comes more often than then.

Your arguments are retarded mainly because of how you present them. Not only that, you refuse to see reasons, and you're asking me for "evidence" that everyone and their mothers know for a fact. And, these evidence can be found in the first page of Google search result.

Anyways, I've grown tired of your antics. See ya.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Fair enough.

I never said it would be a shorter construction, my main arguments are that we'll get higher quality products, and it benefits OUR economy, at the same time.

Apologies, I misinterpreted "overrun" on the first point. On the other point, it doesn't necessarily benefit "our" economy to hire domestic workers to do that kind of work. Right now I don't see anything indicating that increased costs of the bridge's construction were a result of using Chinese labor, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that paying some dudes $2/hr (number pulled out of ass) who would love the opportunity over an American $15/hr (also ass-pulled) for the same product will be a cost saver. Less money spent on relatively menial labor that many 3rd world countries are better suited for = more money to spend elsewhere in areas where Californians are far more productive.

I don't assume that we'll get inferior product, I know. You know how??? Look at everything they built recently, even their own fucking bridges. Also, I'm too lazy to dig up the threads, but you can Google to see the shoddy quality of their constructions. Everything from the new mega cities, bridges, toys, electronics, etc...

Ok, but we're not talking about Chinese-constructed bridges. We're talking about buying rebar, beams, etc according to American designs and putting it together ourselves. I hope you realize this soon.

When you have a track record of producing SHITs, and your country is full of corruption, lack of oversight, lack of governance, etc... that just don't change overnight. You think they give a shit about producing the best parts using the best materials for a bridge that's going to be put together in America? Tell me what products you have that are made in China, that last?

"The best parts", probably not, but no one uses "the best" when being realistic. Apparently the fabrication process is being watched to ensure high quality by whatever standards we have, but I'm sure that they're all in on it. Those pesky Chinese with all their money and slave labor are almost as bad as the Jewish banking industry, amirite?

When you have a record of copying, plagiarizing, forgery, stealing, imitate, etc... that just don't change overnight. Looking at their bridge designs, they're no different than others that you see anywhere in the Western world. I wouldn't be surprised if they stole the blueprint off some other countries.

I think my sarcasm in my previous post was lost on you. I'm fairly certain that one does not simply "copy" a bridge design. It's not a video game where every tile costs X dollars and you just drag the cursor across the two points you want to connect. Of course, there are obviously going to be common elements in all modern bridges, and since you've implied that the Western world has no problem copying itself, I'm not sure why you act as if that is a bad thing. I mean, "the blueprint", LOL. Again, if it was that easy, how hard could it be to steal an industrial practice of creating the correct allow of steel for building a bridge?

I stopped buying Chinese made products a while back. It gets annoying when you have to replace them every now and then, and now comes more often than then.

Cool.

Your arguments are retarded mainly because of how you present them. Not only that, you refuse to see reasons, and you're asking me for "evidence" that everyone and their mothers know for a fact. And, these evidence can be found in the first page of Google search result.

How I present them? That smells like butthurt to me. I didn't use the word "evidence" once in this thread, although you did ask me to provide evidence that not everything China makes is crap, which I did (Shanghai). I did ask for a source which provides information on the Bay Bridge being delayed due to faulty Chinese-made steel products, but I have been unable to find any.