Originally posted by: rh71
Exactly. Peter Bondra is Mr. Capital. He took less money to stay 3 years ago and he genuinely didn't want to leave when they sent him. He has a lot of respect for the team that drafted him 156th overall. Don't see too many players like that these days... I would cry for him if he got his SC.Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: rh71
I want Ottawa to win because of Peter Bondra... but I would vote Washington if you had put it on the list.
Nah...vote B's...then you can watch two ex-Caps...
He said he wanted to see an ex-cap win
Agreed on Bondra, but hasn't Gonchar been there quite awhile as well? I hear ya though, pretty much the same situation as when Bourque went to the Avs.
I still say Gonchar and Nylander have a better chance of going far in the playoffs...if only because of who Ottawa is playing in the first round, and their situation in goal.
:beer:
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Don't watch hockey?!?! I have been a Bruins fan for more than 10 years, have season tickets the last three years to the local AHL team (Manchester), and I can count the B's games I've missed this year on one hand. But..whatever. The Devils don't trap?? Are you sure about that? Granted, they don't quite do the trap fest they did under Lemairre, but playing under Pat Burns, it's trap and defense first.
When Burns coached the B's he had us play the trap. Also, the B's do have defensive schemes, but they don't play that type of game where they get the lead, keep 5 men back, and ice the puck at the slightest hint of danger. I can see where we might have a difference of opinion on this, but to say the Devils don't trap is plain wrong...IMO of course.
:beer:
FWIW, the Bruins do trap and so do the Habs. I went to see one game this year and it happened against Boston. It was the most boring game of hockey I've ever witnessed in person, it's not as if the Bruins lack the talent to play an open style either...
The Habs will definitely trap in this series (because Boston has more talent), I bet this leads to Boston also playing a defensive which will mean a snoozefest for everyone else.
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Gonchar was a born and bred Capital, but he was slated to be a star from the beginning. Did you know he held out of camp twice before he became a household name ? Anyway, I loved having that weapon on the blue line, but he wasn't going to stay through the rebuilding and wanted a lot of money (not that he doesn't deserve it), so I don't have as much respect for him as I do Bonzai. And Nylander... he's a very underrated player - Boston upgraded dramatically at the deadline with those 2 playmakers.
Still, heart says Ottawa ... but in the end... I think Colorado will pull through despite Aebischer.
Anyway, I loved having that weapon on the blue line, but he wasn't going to stay through the rebuilding and wanted a lot of money (not that he doesn't deserve it), so I don't have as much respect for him as I do Bonzai. And Nylander... he's a very underrated player - Boston upgraded dramatically at the deadline with those 2 playmakers.Still, heart says Ottawa ... but in the end... I think Colorado will pull through despite Aebischer.
Originally posted by: Crappopotamus
Originally posted by: SSP
My sig says it all.
Crappopotamus, you wouldnt happen to be a certain banned member who was part of the huge leafs thread we had couple of years ago now would you?
actually, no. i have no idea what youre talking about
calgary vs canucks 1st round too.
Ahh, too bad you werent here for that then. We had a Leafs thread here for each playoffs rounds we had for the past 3 years started by Frodo..err Kami. But it seems like im the only regular Leafs fan here so its useless to start one this season.
Originally posted by: Aquaman
GO CANUCKS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO CANUCKS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ps. Did I mention I want the Canucks to win?
Cheers,
Aquaman
Damn bots... shoo! shoo boy!
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Don't watch hockey?!?! I have been a Bruins fan for more than 10 years, have season tickets the last three years to the local AHL team (Manchester), and I can count the B's games I've missed this year on one hand. But..whatever. The Devils don't trap?? Are you sure about that? Granted, they don't quite do the trap fest they did under Lemairre, but playing under Pat Burns, it's trap and defense first.
When Burns coached the B's he had us play the trap. Also, the B's do have defensive schemes, but they don't play that type of game where they get the lead, keep 5 men back, and ice the puck at the slightest hint of danger. I can see where we might have a difference of opinion on this, but to say the Devils don't trap is plain wrong...IMO of course.
:beer:
FWIW, the Bruins do trap and so do the Habs. I went to see one game this year and it happened against Boston. It was the most boring game of hockey I've ever witnessed in person, it's not as if the Bruins lack the talent to play an open style either...
The Habs will definitely trap in this series (because Boston has more talent), I bet this leads to Boston also playing a defensive which will mean a snoozefest for everyone else.
I agree, they do trap with certain teams...usually the teams that are playing that style, but over the past few years, we have played a much more up tempo, less defensive game.
Anyway....I wish they would just eliminate the red line so we would have no more 2-line passes, and it will make it very hard for teams to trap.
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Don't expect them to really show their true colors until the second or third round. Lang and Draper have been out a month. Hatcher is playing something like his sixth game of the season. Woolly and Whitney have been out recently.
When they all are playing on the same page, they're unstoppable.
Nothing like winning the cup with your third string goalie.
Don't expect them to really show their true colors until the second or third round. Lang and Draper have been out a month. Hatcher is playing something like his sixth game of the season. Woolly and Whitney have been out recently.
When they all are playing on the same page, they're unstoppable.
Nothing like winning the cup with your third string goalie.
Ok folks, here are my picks.
EAST
Philadelphia > New Jersey
Tampa Bay > New York Islanders
Ottawa > Toronto
Boston > Montreal
WEST
St. Louis > San Jose (homer pick, but it could happen)
Detroit > Nashville
Calgary > Vancouver
Dallas > Colorado
EAST
Philadelphia > New Jersey
Tampa Bay > New York Islanders
Ottawa > Toronto
Boston > Montreal
WEST
St. Louis > San Jose (homer pick, but it could happen)
Detroit > Nashville
Calgary > Vancouver
Dallas > Colorado
Originally posted by: SSP
Originally posted by: Crappopotamus
Originally posted by: SSP
My sig says it all.
Crappopotamus, you wouldnt happen to be a certain banned member who was part of the huge leafs thread we had couple of years ago now would you?
actually, no. i have no idea what youre talking about
calgary vs canucks 1st round too.
Ahh, too bad you werent here for that then. We had a Leafs thread here for each playoffs rounds we had for the past 3 years started by Frodo..err Kami. But it seems like im the only regular Leafs fan here so its useless to start one this season.
dont worry, it we'll make a thread when we win. just us two.
ottawa over toronto cherry? been watching the last 3 years? heh.
Series are set for first round
Canadian Press
4/4/2004
Toronto plays Ottawa for the fourth time in five years, Montreal and Boston renew a longtime playoff rivalry, and Vancouver and Calgary hook up for the first time in 10 years.
Canadian hockey fans will have plenty to watch when the NHL's second season begins Wednesday in Vancouver, Boston, Detroit and Denver and Thursday in Toronto, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay and San Jose.
``There's no easy matchup this time of year,'' says the Leafs' Ron Francis. ``There's only good hockey teams left.''
A Toronto-Ottawa spring fling is becoming an annual hockey rite, which is okay with the Leafs because they knocked off the Senators in the three previous playoff showdowns.
The Canadiens are 22-7 all-time against Boston in playoffs, including a first-round upset two years ago, and now another matchup with the Bruins looms.
Canucks fans will recall that a Game 7 win over Calgary in the first round in 1994 catapulted their team all the way to the championship series.
The last playoff pairings in the East were determined by a 3-1 Boston victory Sunday in New Jersey that sent the Bruins past idle Toronto for the Northeast Division title and the No. 2 seed.
``We're thrilled,'' said Bruins coach Mike Sullivan. ``We had an opportunity to win our division, arguably the best division in the NHL and that was something we wanted to accomplish.''
A lot of Toronto and Montreal fans were hoping for a Devils win on the closing day of the schedule, which would have meant a Leafs-Habs series for the first time since 1979. But it was not to be. Regardless, the Leafs are happy to have home-ice advantage.
``It's always nice to start at home,'' said Alexander Mogilny. ``It helped a couple of years ago and, hopefully, it's going to help us this year as well.''
The combination of the Devils' loss and Philadelphia's 3-3 tie with the New York Islanders gave the Flyers the Atlantic Division title and the No. 3 playoff seed. New Jersey dropped to sixth in the conference and will have to begin the second season in Philadelphia.
Top-seeded Tampa Bay already knew it would begin the playoffs against the eighth-seeded Islanders. This one might be closer than many might expect because the Islanders won three of the four regular-season meetings.
Toronto was 4-1-1 against Ottawa including a 6-0 romp in Canada's capital on Saturday, although it might be a meaningless factor in that the Senators had the upper hand on the Leafs during the winters of 2000, 2001 and 2002 and were eliminated by them each time after daffodils bloomed.
``This is everything Ontario wanted,'' said the Senators' Bryan Smolinski. ``It's going to be a war.''
Boston-Montreal should be a nailbiter.
The Bruins had a slight edge, 3-2-1, in the regular season. Three of the games were decided in overtime.
Philadelphia was 4-1-1 against New Jersey. It'll be the first playoff confrontation between these two bitter division rivals since the Devils edged the Flyers in a seven-game conference final on their way to winning the championship in 2000.
``This is a team that has been our nemesis for a long time,'' Flyers coach Ken Hitchcock said of the Devils. ``It's our turn to take a whack at them.''
In the West, top-seeded Detroit, a 9-2 choice by Las Vegas oddsmakers to win the Stanley Cup for the fourth time in eight years, will give eighth-seeded Nashville its first taste of playoff action in the Predators' six-year existence. Don't dismiss the newcomers quickly because they held their own with the Red Wings in splitting the season series 3-3.
San Jose, a big surprise as No. 2 seed after missing the playoffs last year, takes on No. 7 St. Louis, which extends its streak of playoff appearances to 25 years - most in any major North American pro sport. They split 2-2 in the regular season. Three years ago, the Blues knocked off the Sharks in six in the first round.
``Can't wait for the first shift,'' said the Blues' Chris Pronger. ``All those boos.''
The other two matchups materialized after Dallas defeated Chicago 5-2 to clinch the No. 5 seed and keep Calgary from grabbing it.
Vancouver, having clinched first place in the Northwest Division and the No. 3 seed by ending Edmonton's late-season bid Saturday night, open at home against the sixth-seeded Flames. The Canucks' six-game winning streak makes them the hottest team in the league.
``Winning the division is sweet, especially after what happened last year,'' said Trevor Linden, alluding to his team's loss of the 2003 division title to Colorado on the last weekend. ``But the guys are pretty subdued right now. We know our work is ahead of us.''
Vancouver had a 3-2-1 edge in the season series, and each team won twice in the other's building. The Flames are in the playoffs for the first time in eight years.
Colorado, its nine-year run atop its division ended by Vancouver, dropped to No. 4 and plays Dallas. The Avs were 3-1 against the Stars this season but Dallas will best remember its 5-1 win when they last played them in February. It'll be the teams' first playoff meeting in four years.
``We're playing one of the top teams in the league,'' said the Stars' Bill Guerin. ``You're going to have to play them sooner or later.
``We get them first. They've got great individual players so we're going to have to do the job defensively, one-on-one.''
The last possible day for a championship series game will be June 7.
The Sharks rate as the biggest surprise of the season. They finished 14th in the West a year ago, and now they're the conference's No. 2 playoff seed.
Nobody picked the Lightning to win the East but, with 93 points a year ago, it's not as if they came out of nowhere.
Anaheim was the biggest flop. Last spring's Stanley Cup finalist wound up 12th in the West.
Pittsburgh finished last overall and thus has the best chance in the percentage-weighted lottery draft Tuesday to get first pick in the June entry draft. Ten teams had 100 or more points. No more than seven reached 100 in any previous season.
Cheers,
Aquaman
Canadian Press
4/4/2004
Toronto plays Ottawa for the fourth time in five years, Montreal and Boston renew a longtime playoff rivalry, and Vancouver and Calgary hook up for the first time in 10 years.
Canadian hockey fans will have plenty to watch when the NHL's second season begins Wednesday in Vancouver, Boston, Detroit and Denver and Thursday in Toronto, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay and San Jose.
``There's no easy matchup this time of year,'' says the Leafs' Ron Francis. ``There's only good hockey teams left.''
A Toronto-Ottawa spring fling is becoming an annual hockey rite, which is okay with the Leafs because they knocked off the Senators in the three previous playoff showdowns.
The Canadiens are 22-7 all-time against Boston in playoffs, including a first-round upset two years ago, and now another matchup with the Bruins looms.
Canucks fans will recall that a Game 7 win over Calgary in the first round in 1994 catapulted their team all the way to the championship series.
The last playoff pairings in the East were determined by a 3-1 Boston victory Sunday in New Jersey that sent the Bruins past idle Toronto for the Northeast Division title and the No. 2 seed.
``We're thrilled,'' said Bruins coach Mike Sullivan. ``We had an opportunity to win our division, arguably the best division in the NHL and that was something we wanted to accomplish.''
A lot of Toronto and Montreal fans were hoping for a Devils win on the closing day of the schedule, which would have meant a Leafs-Habs series for the first time since 1979. But it was not to be. Regardless, the Leafs are happy to have home-ice advantage.
``It's always nice to start at home,'' said Alexander Mogilny. ``It helped a couple of years ago and, hopefully, it's going to help us this year as well.''
The combination of the Devils' loss and Philadelphia's 3-3 tie with the New York Islanders gave the Flyers the Atlantic Division title and the No. 3 playoff seed. New Jersey dropped to sixth in the conference and will have to begin the second season in Philadelphia.
Top-seeded Tampa Bay already knew it would begin the playoffs against the eighth-seeded Islanders. This one might be closer than many might expect because the Islanders won three of the four regular-season meetings.
Toronto was 4-1-1 against Ottawa including a 6-0 romp in Canada's capital on Saturday, although it might be a meaningless factor in that the Senators had the upper hand on the Leafs during the winters of 2000, 2001 and 2002 and were eliminated by them each time after daffodils bloomed.
``This is everything Ontario wanted,'' said the Senators' Bryan Smolinski. ``It's going to be a war.''
Boston-Montreal should be a nailbiter.
The Bruins had a slight edge, 3-2-1, in the regular season. Three of the games were decided in overtime.
Philadelphia was 4-1-1 against New Jersey. It'll be the first playoff confrontation between these two bitter division rivals since the Devils edged the Flyers in a seven-game conference final on their way to winning the championship in 2000.
``This is a team that has been our nemesis for a long time,'' Flyers coach Ken Hitchcock said of the Devils. ``It's our turn to take a whack at them.''
In the West, top-seeded Detroit, a 9-2 choice by Las Vegas oddsmakers to win the Stanley Cup for the fourth time in eight years, will give eighth-seeded Nashville its first taste of playoff action in the Predators' six-year existence. Don't dismiss the newcomers quickly because they held their own with the Red Wings in splitting the season series 3-3.
San Jose, a big surprise as No. 2 seed after missing the playoffs last year, takes on No. 7 St. Louis, which extends its streak of playoff appearances to 25 years - most in any major North American pro sport. They split 2-2 in the regular season. Three years ago, the Blues knocked off the Sharks in six in the first round.
``Can't wait for the first shift,'' said the Blues' Chris Pronger. ``All those boos.''
The other two matchups materialized after Dallas defeated Chicago 5-2 to clinch the No. 5 seed and keep Calgary from grabbing it.
Vancouver, having clinched first place in the Northwest Division and the No. 3 seed by ending Edmonton's late-season bid Saturday night, open at home against the sixth-seeded Flames. The Canucks' six-game winning streak makes them the hottest team in the league.
``Winning the division is sweet, especially after what happened last year,'' said Trevor Linden, alluding to his team's loss of the 2003 division title to Colorado on the last weekend. ``But the guys are pretty subdued right now. We know our work is ahead of us.''
Vancouver had a 3-2-1 edge in the season series, and each team won twice in the other's building. The Flames are in the playoffs for the first time in eight years.
Colorado, its nine-year run atop its division ended by Vancouver, dropped to No. 4 and plays Dallas. The Avs were 3-1 against the Stars this season but Dallas will best remember its 5-1 win when they last played them in February. It'll be the teams' first playoff meeting in four years.
``We're playing one of the top teams in the league,'' said the Stars' Bill Guerin. ``You're going to have to play them sooner or later.
``We get them first. They've got great individual players so we're going to have to do the job defensively, one-on-one.''
The last possible day for a championship series game will be June 7.
The Sharks rate as the biggest surprise of the season. They finished 14th in the West a year ago, and now they're the conference's No. 2 playoff seed.
Nobody picked the Lightning to win the East but, with 93 points a year ago, it's not as if they came out of nowhere.
Anaheim was the biggest flop. Last spring's Stanley Cup finalist wound up 12th in the West.
Pittsburgh finished last overall and thus has the best chance in the percentage-weighted lottery draft Tuesday to get first pick in the June entry draft. Ten teams had 100 or more points. No more than seven reached 100 in any previous season.
Cheers,
Aquaman
The 2nd-best record in the league, and Tampa Bay only gets two votes?
Red Wings fan, personally. I hope they don't have another first-round loss.
Red Wings fan, personally. I hope they don't have another first-round loss.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Sorry all, but the Cup is coming home this year, back to Canada where it belongs! The Canucks will take it, if they fail another Canadian team will, it is inevitable, accept it!
*fails to accept it*
Originally posted by: sandorski
Sorry all, but the Cup is coming home this year, back to Canada where it belongs! The Canucks will take it, if they fail another Canadian team will, it is inevitable, accept it!
Pffft.. Didn't you guys have it pretty much straight through the 70's and 80's? Our turn pal!
sandorski
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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: sandorski
Sorry all, but the Cup is coming home this year, back to Canada where it belongs! The Canucks will take it, if they fail another Canadian team will, it is inevitable, accept it!
Pffft.. Didn't you guys have it pretty much straight through the 70's and 80's? Our turn pal!
Not the whole time, Islanders had a good run in the late 70's early 80's. The Oilers were the last Canadian Cup hogging team almost 15 years ago, time for another one. I nominate the Canucks!
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Grey
Originally posted by: Insane3D
If you think hockey's boring, it sounds like you don't follow it. It's the fastest game out there, and to call it boring makes no sense.
Oh wait...maybe you have been watching Devils vs Minnesota trap fests....
Edit:
In reading your post again....I think I mis-read. Sorry.
Sounds like you don't watch hockey, the Devil's dont trap. And the Bruins are just as guilty of any defensive schemes in this league then anyone.
I think the winner of the Philly/NJ Series is going to represent the East this year. The west is never clear cut, just look at Anaheim making it last year.
Don't watch hockey?!?! I have been a Bruins fan for more than 10 years, have season tickets the last three years to the local AHL team (Manchester), and I can count the B's games I've missed this year on one hand. But..whatever. The Devils don't trap?? Are you sure about that? Granted, they don't quite do the trap fest they did under Lemairre, but playing under Pat Burns, it's trap and defense first.
When Burns coached the B's he had us play the trap. Also, the B's do have defensive schemes, but they don't play that type of game where they get the lead, keep 5 men back, and ice the puck at the slightest hint of danger. I can see where we might have a difference of opinion on this, but to say the Devils don't trap is plain wrong...IMO of course.
:beer:
To me the trap is scoring a goal and then having just one forechecker. Or even from the beginning of the game never being agressive in the offensive zone. The Devils mix puck possesion and very good man to man defense, they also have the best goalie in the league.
The Devils usually lead their games with shots for as well as total attack time so that to me says they aren't sitting back and waiting for the other team to screw up as much as they did under Lemaire.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Sorry all, but the Cup is coming home this year, back to Canada where it belongs! The Canucks will take it, if they fail another Canadian team will, it is inevitable, accept it!
:beer:
:beer:Go Canucks Go!
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