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Anand Lal Shimpi

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<< According to the first site, it will go 0-62mph in just over 4 seconds. That doesn't make it that much faster than a 911 Turbo, which can break 4 in 0-60. >>



German manufacturers are notorious for underrating their cars, the current 996TT hits 60 in anywhere from 3.2 - 3.7s. The Carrera GT, being lighter than a regular Carrera (~2700 lbs for the GT, 2910lbs for the Carrera, and ~3400lbs for the Turbo), and having more power than a Turbo (558HP vs 415HP) will most likely hit 60 in around 3s but I wouldn't be surprised if this thing actually did it in under 3s.

What a lot of people are forgetting though is that the Carrera GT is just a prototype, if it is produced, the specs could be very different from what we see here today. And the car could look much different from what we're seeing in these pictures, although the current design is very...mmmmm... ;)

I wouldn't be surprised if the Carrera GT comes out as a mid-engined V8, maybe even with a turbo charged counterpart, and features some sort of a F1 style electronic tranny ala Ferrari. It'll be interesting to see, but with a production total of only 500 cars during its lifetime, don't expect these $300K+ cars to be common at all.

I think someone buying the Carrera GT in the US will be wasting their money and the car. There is no place around here where you can take the car to its limits and truly get your money's worth, other than some nice tracks. This car was meant for the German autobahn.

What I'm waiting for is the introduction of the retractable hard top design that Porsche &amp; Mercedes have been working on together. That on a 996 Turbo cab could be a very nice combination.

Take care,
Anand
 

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If the Carrera GT makes it into production, it will most likely make a better tranformation than the Boxster did from show car to production. The Boxster ended up looking like a 70% copy of the show car shown in '93 (and which had me nearly going into convulsions when I saw it in C&amp;D :)). The reason for this is b/c the Boxster show car was released at a time when Porshe needed something to get the public's attention. Remember, this was before the restyled 993 Carrera came to market and before Porsche started rolling in $$$ again. They also took more liberties with styling elements (such as the low mounted side scoops for engine/brake cooling) and the rear lights which were faired into the rear fenders (expensive to produce then, yet now seen in the rear tail lamp design of the PT Cruiser). The production Boxster ended up looking a little &quot;flatter&quot; than the concept car, but it is still the best looking roadster on the market.

IMHO, the Carrera GT will see a transformation from show car to production car much like the Audi TT. The Audi TT made the change from show car to production looking like a 99% copy. The only giveaways are the ever so slightly enlarged bottom front air intakes, and the reshaped side glass/canopy (for better visbility). Other than that, the Audi TT Coupe and Roadster look EXACTLY like their concept counterparts;)

Porsche has nothing to prove now. They are on top, they're raking in the money, they've got great looking cars, and they even have a cash cow SUV coming. I believe that the Carrera GT will therefore stick at least 95% to the current shape of the show car. The only possible details that I can see them changing are the interior. And I also don't think that Porsche would have developed a &quot;one-off&quot; V10. That just doesn't make sense. Money gone down the drain IMHO. Usually, when a show car showcase a new engine, it shows up in future model lines. i.e.

'89 Dodge Viper 8.0L V10- '92 Viper RT/10, Dodge Ram
Ford Indigo, Ford GT90 6.0L V12 - Aston Martain Vantage
Dodge Copperhead 2.7L V6 - base Dodge Intrepid/Chrysler Concorde, Stratus Sedan, Sebring Sedan
 

Anand Lal Shimpi

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It's on now NFS4 ;)

If the Carrera GT does make it to production, think about what engine is more likely to be found in a production chassis...a V10 that they don't use in any other cars, or the V8 that's going to be in the high-end Cayennes?

Now when the bi-turbo V8 Cayenne debuts, guess where that engine will end up as well?

Take care,
Anand
 

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Hehe, but the Flat-6 in the current 996 Turbo is race car derived. And word on the street is that Porsche is gonna try to head for F1. I wonder what kind of engines they use in F1....hmmmmm....you guessed it. V10's :D
 

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True, true. Let's wait and see what rumors come true though. Rumor has it that the Carrera GT is really the Porsche 980, and if it ever makes it to production it will be a closed top, heavier and slightly less powerful car. If anything, Porsche was just trying to get feedback from the Carrera GT, but don't be surprised if we see some of the GT's features in the next 911.

The 996 is due for a redesign in 2002, maybe we'll see some hints of the GT then.

LED rear lights, a redesigned interior, etc...

I'll rant on ya more after I get back from class if I have time ;)
 

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<< True, true. Let's wait and see what rumors come true though. Rumor has it that the Carrera GT is really the Porsche 980, and if it ever makes it to production it will be a closed top, heavier and slightly less powerful car. If anything, Porsche was just trying to get feedback from the Carrera GT, but don't be surprised if we see some of the GT's features in the next 911. >>


Ok &quot;Boss&quot;...who are you supposed to be, Bruce Springsteen? :p You may have gotten me on the closed top part (in fact, I'm sure you smacked me on that one), but I still fell that as far as the overall design (minus the greenhouse area) will be quite the same as the current concept car.


<< The 996 is due for a redesign in 2002, maybe we'll see some hints of the GT then. >>


I've seen pics of the '02 996 (as I know you have as well;)), and it just has the Turbo lights up front with a restyled front fascia and rear bumper. No GT hints there. Besides, isn't this thing made to last 30 years like the old 911? :D
 

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Even if that engine does creep into F1, there'll be many changes made, the only common thing they will have (most likely) will be the block and maybe a few other parts. Everything from the heads to the crankshaft/connecting rods will be different if it's an official F1 engine. F1 engines are designed to run well past 10k RPMs, which I doubt the stock engine will do. So in order to hit those RPMs, many changes will be made IMO
 

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If they use the V10 in F1, it will most likely follow the same model as the Aurora V8 used in IRL cars :)