NFR software

[Raybdbomb]

I was given some NFR software that would normally be worth $5000+.

I'll never use it, is there ANY way I can sell it and get some $$, or am I legally not allowed to with NFR (not for resale).

I couldn't find out what it meant anywhere.

 

[Mark R]

In Europe, you may be able to: the 'not for resale' clause does not apply to an end user (this is part of the reason why MS is beginning to encourage OEMs not to supply windows install discs - if they supply a CD, they cannot legally prevent it being resold). Despite this being tested in court multiple times, MS still tries to prevent such sales e.g. they have an agreement with eBay, where eBay prohibit the sale of NFR software.

In the US, I believe you are SOL. But no doubt, someone else will know better.

 

[Raybdbomb]

I'm in the US. It's not M$ software, it's Autodesk.

 

[networkman]

NFR means exactly that = Not For Resale.

It could still be given away as a door prize in a raffle. I've been to a number of Microsoft and NT User groups that had NFR software available as a prize. It's how I got one of my Windows 2000 Server editions that I use at home.

 

[Raybdbomb]

I realize that, but lots of games also have Not For Resale, and they're sold all the time on ebay

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: Raybdbomb
I realize that, but lots of games also have Not For Resale, and they're sold all the time on ebay

eBay monitors that type of thing. People get away with it, but that doesn't make it right.

 

[spacelord]

Can you simply sell someone a rubber band for $500 and offer the NFR software as a free gift?

 

[Kenazo]

Originally posted by: spacelord
Can you simply sell someone a rubber band for $500 and offer the NFR software as a free gift?

I think you're not selling the rubber band at FMV then...

If you're not a company, you could probably get away with it.

 

[Raybdbomb]

Originally posted by: spacelord
Can you simply sell someone a rubber band for $500 and offer the NFR software as a free gift?

haha...

 

[viperbri]

Well, speaking as a consultant what you could do is offer to advise them on the Autodesk software for $500 in services. Throw in the NFR software for free. Who cares if you charge $500 for 5 minutes of advice. Lawyers do it all the time!

 

[Raybdbomb]

yea... you guys are missing a 0, it's $5,000

 

[Mavrick007]

Is it sealed and unopened? If so, try to sell it as it is. I don't think it applies as much to an end user as it would to a business. IE. they can't strip out the software from a package and sell it separately from the other contents. Sell it for what you think you can get for it, not for how much it could be worth.

 

[Raybdbomb]

yes it's unopened. there was no wrap on it, and the cd wasn't sealed, but i never popped it into my computer...

if i sell it on ebay, should i MARK it as NFR?

 

[Kenazo]

Originally posted by: Raybdbomb
yes it's unopened. there was no wrap on it, and the cd wasn't sealed, but i never popped it into my computer...

if i sell it on ebay, should i MARK it as NFR?

See, the thing about software is you're buying a licence to use it, not the software itself. Thus, if you're violating the licence by selling it you really aren't selling anything. Thus, it's just as pirated to whomever buys it from you as if they just went on TorrentSpy and downloaded a copy themselves.


Same with Educational licences. Once you're done school you no longer own a licence, so it's just as illegal to use Educationally licenced software when you don't qualify as to use stuff you picked up off bit torrent.

That said, I'm not that keen on those rules, so have fun.

 

[Raybdbomb]

yea i'll just hold onto it, i guess you never know

thx