Nforce2 vs. KT266A/333?

LordLothar

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What do you think will happen performance wise with the Nforce2?

I use a KT266A that is very stable after LOTS of trouble shooting, if i was to buy again it would be a nforce.

SIS is good but I'd prefer the dual memory architechure myself.
 

NicColt

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I havent seen any benches out yet but MY best guestimate is that it's about %5 over KT333 and %10 to %15 over KT266. If it's faster than KT400 under the exact same conditions for real world performance, I'll eat my monitor.
 

LordLothar

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I cant believe the amount of troubleshooting this KT266A board has caused me.

Thats why I'm looking for alternatives.. my KT133/KT133A didnt cause me nearly as much grief as this one has.
 
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I really like nForce boards... very stable.

What gets lost in many of these motherboard discussions is the feature set... the nForce boards - at least the ones with on-board LAN and audio - provide a tremendous value.

My stability has been excellent.
 

LordLothar

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I like the dual nics in the nforce 2 and the geforce4mx/6channel audio will be stellar for building systems with.

I'm considering getting the nforce2 (w/built in GF4MX) for myself and might get rid of the Audigy even if it sounds good enough.

But that way you can always rely on decent built in video if you are selling your video card and havent received your new one..

Ive seen the original nforce blow away motherboards at high res (1600x1200) in game benchmarks, but lose in low res (who cares about low res anyway esp when your talking above 150fps+ anyway) it gets creamed.
Overall they are about equal in performance.. I cant find the review with the nforce beating the kt266a again..
 

Athlon4all

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Performance wise, nForce2 will likely be on apar with KT333 when using DDR333. I agree that feature set needs to be mentioned, and without even mentioning the video, nForce2 will have ATA/133, USB2.0, FireWire, Dual LAN, and of course the nForce APU which is sort of between a Live! and an Audigy. I personally like nFOrce 2 and I expect nForce2 to do great.
 

tuan121

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Nforce really rocks and i think it be as fast or faster than the kt400. VIA just plain sux!!! The built in C-Media just plain SUX!!!
 

Rainsford

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How soon do you guys think Nforce 2 boards will start showing up? I know the Nforce 2 itself is going to be announced early next week, but what about the boards? I don't want to wait too long to upgrade.
 

KF

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>What is dual LAN for?
What, no quadruple LAN!? Hopefully ASUS won't have to
subtitute another chip for the nForce LAN like they did
on their high end nForce board.

>SIS is good but I'd prefer the dual memory architechure myself.
Dual is so fast it comes close to matching single. The only thing
dual boosts is the on-board video because it is so starved for
bandwidth using slow system memory. It seems Athlons are designed for
bandwidth about where 266DDR is. That's why faster memory barely
inches up performance. 266 is twice 133. Did performance double
going from 133 memory to 266? 333 is 25% more than 266. Did performance
go up 25%?

>VIA just plain sux!!! The built in C-Media just plain SUX!!!

Hopefully ASUS won't have to substitute a C-media chip for
the nForce sound like they did on their high end nForce board.
 
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There seems to be no performance increase when going from PC2100 to PC2700 on AMD platform. I'll prolly just pull the PC2100 out of my rig and drop it in the new nForce when it is released. :D
 

KF

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>How soon do you guys think Nforce 2 boards will start showing up?
Two months, provided the chip is in finalized form and production geared up
the day it is announced. Its been a long while since manufacturers have
announced a product and you can buy it in that short amount of time, saying
you are that reckless.

Then the product shows up, and there are a few months more before
the bugs get swatted, and the drivers actually implement the features
announced, and the game makers put out patches so their games can
work. By then the reviewers are bored to death with it and will be saying
such "old technology" is uncompetitive and needs "refreshing". By the time
the product is 95% working, it is being replaced by yet more advanced
and elusive vaporware.

Let's say the reviewers only have the manufacturers "reference" board
to review next week, or worse, they are product "previews". Then it can't
be shorter than six months before you see real circuit boards for sale.

People who keep up better than I do can fine tune these these estimates
better than me.

Anand sometimes mentions he's seen three or four revisions of a mobo
come through before one is stable enough to do benchmarks he feels are
worth publishing. If nForce2 is ready to go, no doubt Anand has already had
this experience. You see, manufacturers only let reviewers have mobos
on the earliest possible date provided they legally bind themselves to say
nothing before they are permitted. Every reviewer learns to be cautious in what
he says about the big guys, or else there could be a "slight mistake" which
results in him not having a review the first day. Therefore, the naive
reader may not recognize when the reviewer is trying to convey the
message that the new product is a worthless piece of garbage. Unfortunately
the little guys don't get as much consideration. Tom of Tomshardware, when
he did review years ago, used to like to reverse this and step on the big
guys toes constantly. Uncountable Intel and 3dFX enthusiast are hopping mad
to this day, and never miss an opportunity to say what an idiot Tom is, even
though Tom himself seldom has written a word in years, having lost interest, and
his site is a vague ghost of what it once was.

Anand is remnant from the good old days. I'm pretty sure he has lost interest
too, although he keeps on chugging. Too bad, but that's life.
 

LordLothar

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Like I said, I've seen benchmarks of the Nforce beating everything at 1600x1200 in a game, the reviewer said it was becasue of the dual memory architechure.
 

mechBgon

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There is an article at The Inquirer with some projections for nForce2's features and expected performance.

/me hands out mandatory grains of salt for all readers...

Here's the link. Paired up with Barton (whenever it arrives), that could be a good platform for a next-generation gaming system.
 

staticfly

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20% is a LOT.. if it is actually 20% faster... wow...

On the otherhand, AMD has me worried. Tbred seems just so so... We havn't seen much speed ramping from AMD. On top of this, I now own AMD stock. lol.

I just hope they have enough cash to get the hammer out 4th quarter. And it better ramp in speed well... AMD seems to have bet the farm on this one, they are going to show 200M worth of red this quarter...

but back to the nforce.. a 20% boost would almost put them back into contention with intel. Lets just hope nVidia can get this one out faster than the last one.
 

NicColt

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GAWD... all this %20 faster is pure rumor from a third world banana site. Just because the Inquirer is reporting that some monkey site claims it's so, doens't mean that it's true.