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Nforce 2 boards and Crucial RAM question

nwhale

Junior Member
I ordered 2 512 PC2700 sticks from newegg last week, then found out that sometimes Nforce boards have a bit of a problem with that certain stick from crucial. It appears that I am having said problems, and was wondering if anyone knew if, to remedy the problem I have to RMA, or wait for a bios revision or something similar to fix the issue. Thanks 🙂
 
might wanna get the Low latency ram modules, i ordered some Kingston HYPERX (low latency) ram. They cost a bit more but wont have problems. Thats why i went with the kingston hyperX PC2700 512, 74$ shipped at googlegear.com

i receive it on tuesday if u want gimme a pm later next week ill let u know how it works
 
Originally posted by: nwhale
I ordered 2 512 PC2700 sticks from newegg last week, then found out that sometimes Nforce boards have a bit of a problem with that certain stick from crucial. It appears that I am having said problems, and was wondering if anyone knew if, to remedy the problem I have to RMA, or wait for a bios revision or something similar to fix the issue. Thanks 🙂

flash the motherboard with the newest revision of the BIOS. what board do you have anyways? from what i read, it is a problem specific to 512MB modules of Crucial PC2700 RAM. i can tell you that PC2100 OCed to PC2700 works flawlessly on a Abit NF7-S =)
 
I agree. Crucial used to be ALL I bought. Now with the issues with the NF2, and their PC3200 being unimpressive as it is...I dunno...
 
Can someone tell me where to find more info on this problem?
I have been trying to chase down a problem on a system with this hardware which only occurs under linux.
I hope this is indeed the cause. It has been driving me nuts!

Thanks!
SkipE
 
I have been told by kingston tech support, who are currently sending me replacement sticks of memory. That the nforce2 chipset and certain brands of memory (infineon for example) have stability problems. I have read on several newsgroups that this affects crucial memory sticks of the 512 333 flavor as well.
Some mobo makers have introduced BIOS updates to remedy this problem. (ASUS for example)

The problems I ran into are lockups, reboots, BSOD. Failure to post. Problem goes away when a diff brand of memory is used.
Good luck.
 
Search the threads here and over at the Ars forum.... The people on AMDBoards have probably also commented on the issue but I don't use them so I couldn't say for sure.

Basically though, Crucial isn't going to post the problem for everyone to see as it would not only hurt business terribly but the issue is only w/ certain board chipsets and the PC2700 sticks. They also most likely aren't entirely sure what the problem really is. They've been in the memory game for a while and to experience an issue like this has got ot be pretty new for them.
 
Grminalac, if Asus users got a BIOS update to address this, I hope the other NF2 boards do as well. I'd love to be able to use my existing memory without having to sell it and buy something else...
 
I can remember other Asus boards besides nForce2 having trouble with Crucial RAM. It;s not just nForce.
 
My PC2700 256mb modules run nicely at PC3200 speeds with no extra voltage , the mobo is keeping them
from going further.
 
Memory issues seems to be 10x worse if you use the IGP, otherwise, with Crucial or Kingston Value ram in my Shuttle XPC SN41G2 ran fine WITH a video card, albeit 256 sticks, 333 or 266 or not.
 
This certainly isn't an nForce2 chipset issue. It could be an SPD timing issue or, more likely, Crucial received a bad batch of chips that they then slapped onto a bunch of their PCBs.

In this case, end users are experiencing very poor results with nForce2 boards (for whatever reason) with Crucial's 512MB PC2700 modules, the modules with those bad batch of chips.

Until Crucial gives us a reason to believe otherwise, you probably are going to want to hold off purchasing Crucial 512MB PC2700 memory for another few weeks.
 
I have a question then. Why do Kingston ValueRAM 512 MB PC2700 sticks exhibit similar behavior? Similar sources? It seems odd to me that the problem would be limited in an identical size and speed specs. It's really an odd situation.
 
Originally posted by: SpideyCU
I have a question then. Why do Kingston ValueRAM 512 MB PC2700 sticks exhibit similar behavior? Similar sources? It seems odd to me that the problem would be limited in an identical size and speed specs. It's really an odd situation.

Has Kingston admitted that their 512MB PC2700 ValueRAM modules are exhibiting real problems with nForce2 motherboards? Crucial has released a statement saying as much, I would expect Kingston to do so too if it's true. Who's having issues with 512MB PC2700 ValueRAM anyway, I haven't heard anything?

Either way though, Crucial and Kingston could have both received the same bad batch of chips. This has happened to other manufacturers before, where more than one manufacturer gets the same bad batch of chips.
 
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Originally posted by: SpideyCU
I have a question then. Why do Kingston ValueRAM 512 MB PC2700 sticks exhibit similar behavior? Similar sources? It seems odd to me that the problem would be limited in an identical size and speed specs. It's really an odd situation.

Has Kingston admitted that their 512MB PC2700 ValueRAM modules are exhibiting real problems with nForce2 motherboards? Crucial has released a statement saying as much, I would expect Kingston to do so too if it's true. Who's having issues with 512MB PC2700 ValueRAM anyway, I haven't heard anything?

Either way though, Crucial and Kingston could have both received the same bad batch of chips. This has happened to other manufacturers before, where more than one manufacturer gets the same bad batch of chips.
They have in emails to certain AT members. One I know of for sure is conwaymac. There are others who have been told the same thing. Kingston just hasn't made the announcement to the general public yet.
 
Originally posted by: SeekingTao
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Originally posted by: SpideyCU
I have a question then. Why do Kingston ValueRAM 512 MB PC2700 sticks exhibit similar behavior? Similar sources? It seems odd to me that the problem would be limited in an identical size and speed specs. It's really an odd situation.

Has Kingston admitted that their 512MB PC2700 ValueRAM modules are exhibiting real problems with nForce2 motherboards? Crucial has released a statement saying as much, I would expect Kingston to do so too if it's true. Who's having issues with 512MB PC2700 ValueRAM anyway, I haven't heard anything?

Either way though, Crucial and Kingston could have both received the same bad batch of chips. This has happened to other manufacturers before, where more than one manufacturer gets the same bad batch of chips.
They have in emails to certain AT members. One I know of for sure is conwaymac. There are others who have been told the same thing. Kingston just hasn't made the announcement to the general public yet.

If Kingston tech support (or whoever at Kingston) has declared an issue with 512MB PC2700 ValueRAM and certain nForce2 boards, then that's a statement. It's quite clear that Kingston and Crucial have received the same bad batch of chips (do Kingston and Crucial order Winbond chips, I'm not sure who they order from).

This has happened before as I just said. As an example, Samsung once sent a bad batch of RDRAM chips to OCZ and Kingston, which unfortunately made it into the channel, just like the current Crucial/Kingston modules did. It's not a coincidence that people having issues with nForce2 boards are having them with PC2700 modules from Kingston AND Crucial. It's very likely the same bad batch of chips.

Unfortunately things like this occasionally happen. But then again you aren't exactly short of other choices; you can always look to Corsair, Samsung, Mushkin, Kingston (HyperX series), OCZ, etc. etc. for good low latency PC2700 (and higher) memory modules.
 
I'm going to try an RMA with Kingston, then, and see if this changes anything. I'm really hoping that's the case (a bad batch), because if it is, I might finally be able to go to 166 and beyond on this board.
 
Anyone know if Crucial is willing to swap the 512 PC2700 chips with something else (RMA) or do refunds?

Anyone tried it with them?

TIA

-Sid
 
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