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BeauJangles

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-O-line fell off the planet (Cutler sacked 1/50+ snaps last year, 1/16ish this year)
-O-line impacts whoever swapped Forte out with a shittier version of himself
-Horrible secondary, 2/3 staring LB's out. D-line only getting worse.
-Worst coaching of the "real" teams (excluding: Browns, Bucs, Lions, Rams, etc)
-Almost half of his picks are directly the fault of an inexperienced receiving corps or just unlucky calls/breaks (no-call PI from today)

Add all those up and you get the "shitty" Cutler. And then add the fact that at least 70% of Chicago fans don't seem to understand football and want him to be cut, and you have the (hopefully not) ruined Cutler

Thanks, that actually makes a lot of sense! I was sort of be facetious about Cutler just leaving his skill behind in Denver and I've definitely been aware of the deficiencies of the offensive line. While you are 100% correct that the fault isn't all Cutler's, it's still been astounding to watch how much the team has struggled.
 

ric1287

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Thanks, that actually makes a lot of sense! I was sort of be facetious about Cutler just leaving his skill behind in Denver and I've definitely been aware of the deficiencies of the offensive line. While you are 100% correct that the fault isn't all Cutler's, it's still been astounding to watch how much the team has struggled.

And by no means am I saying Cutler is at no-fault. He hasn't been as good as he can and hopefully will be. But to blame him solely (which every dumb fan and lazy sports writer does) for this shit team is plain stupid.

All I can hope for as a huge bears fan is that every member of the coaching staff gets fired, the GM gets fired, the owners open their wallets for some quality coaching, and that Cutler's confidence doesn't get destroyed by our stupid ass fans.
 

BeauJangles

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And by no means am I saying Cutler is at no-fault. He hasn't been as good as he can and hopefully will be. But to blame him solely (which every dumb fan and lazy sports writer does) for this shit team is plain stupid.

All I can hope for as a huge bears fan is that every member of the coaching staff gets fired, the GM gets fired, the owners open their wallets for some quality coaching, and that Cutler's confidence doesn't get destroyed by our stupid ass fans.

Haha, one of my close friends lived with a bunch of guys who were from Chicago in the mid-00s and he told me that every single time Orton / Grossman dropped back they'd start screaming at the TV: "Don't do it!" "Hand it off!" "Throw it away!" Evidently this was capped off by the comment of the season by one of them, "man, if only we could always play defense. We'd probably score more points and I wouldn't have a fucking heart attack every week."

This would be a great year to try and land a new coach. Cowher, Shanahan, and (to a lesser extent) Gruden.
 

dbk

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Wow Vince Young has the Titans in the red zone down by 4 with 21 secs left!! The drive started at the 1yd line.
 

Adrenaline

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That first pass interference against the Texans was interesting to say the least.

That was an odd call but the commentator pointed out that the DB was holding down the receiver's arm. The receiver was not even able to put his arms up to attempt a jump at the ball.
 

herkulease

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Too bad Vince Young didn't scramble into the endzone just to rub it in Leinart's face again.

Nothing Leinart can do but watch as the defense blows it. seriously 99 yard drive with two 4th down conversions.
 

BeauJangles

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That was an odd call but the commentator pointed out that the DB was holding down the receiver's arm. The receiver was not even able to put his arms up to attempt a jump at the ball.

Their arms were definitely tied up, but that happens on almost every neck-in-neck run down field. I do not appreciate the refs discretion on the topic. Either it is pass interference every single time or it is not pass interference.

PI leaves way too much up to the refs and every year it seems that we have numerous games in which one team or another is aided by phantom PI calls. I don't really know what the NFL can do, besides maybe add an official or two to each crew and clarify the rules on pass interference.
 

Bill Brasky

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Chiefs had 4 turnovers, and lost 43-13. lol.

I never get tired of watching Faith Hill sing SNF.
 

GeneValgene

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Too bad Vince Young didn't scramble into the endzone just to rub it in Leinart's face again.

Nothing Leinart can do but watch as the defense blows it. seriously 99 yard drive with two 4th down conversions.

if you count the last one, that's 3 :)
 

Gunslinger08

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I was at the Eagles game today. Was a pretty good time, minus the idiot behind us yelling at every Eagles player when they made a mistake. They at least had enough class to not yell "asshole" at female Redskins fans (like they did at the male ones).

The upcoming few weeks are going to be tough if DeSean is out for his concussion and Celek misses time/continues dropping balls because of his torn hand ligaments.
 

lupi

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lookin like shittsburgh just fuked themselves with that fourth down play.
 

MotF Bane

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WOW that was the fastest offense -> FG unit transition i have ever seen. such a close kick too, accuracy was fine, just lost the range.
 

Glitchny

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WOW that was the fastest offense -> FG unit transition i have ever seen. such a close kick too, accuracy was fine, just lost the range.

Yea they mentioned it was just beyond the range the kicker said he could make. crazy game.
 

KLin

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Wow, Ed hochuli and his crew would have been crucified had that FG been good.