NFL Star RB Adrian Peterson posts Bail For Whippin' His Child

[Retro Rob]

It is sad that you would just use your personal experience to make a general statement.

I'm assuredly not the only one.

And I am anything but a politically correct type, or liberal. I do not subscribe to any particular ideology. And yes, kids these days are pampered too much. But that does not mean you beat them.

No one said you "beat" them. Folks are knocking down their own strawman with that term. I don't think anyone here ever said it's OK to beat them.

Spanking a kid hand if he/she keeps throwing his/her gloves on the ground when you've told them to stop taking their gloves off in the cold isn't beating them -- taking a belt/switch/whatever to them until they bruise is beating them.

That's not something I'm advocating.

 

[kay_]

Normally I just lurk here but I had to reply to this...

I was hit as a child. Few and far between by my mother and every so often by my father. Do I respect my father more than my mother? Heck no.

I always said that I would have no problem spanking my child if he/she did something wrong. When the dog goes to the bathroom on my carpet, I spank him, so why not the kid?

My father in law said something very enlightening to me when I was pregnant and it's stuck with me since (my child is now 6 months old). He said that spanking normally has no effect in the child, that it's more of an anger release for the parent. And after seeing the way I react to the dog, I realize he is right. Smacking the crap out of my dog isn't going to make him stop pooping in my house, he needs be properly trained. When I hit him, it's normally because I'm releasing my own anger of having the clean the shit up.

It's the same with my child. He needs to be guided and taught proper manners, not beaten after the fact. I can't sit here and say I may never smack his hand or smack his butt, because in the heat of the moment when he's older I don't know what I'd do, but seeing those pictures disgust me.

There's spanking your kids butt, and there's brutally beating them with a "weapon" that leaves marks over a week later. I certainly wouldn't ever leave my child with anyone who did that to them.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Normally I just lurk here but I had to reply to this...

I was hit as a child. Few and far between by my mother and every so often by my father. Do I respect my father more than my mother? Heck no.

I always said that I would have no problem spanking my child if he/she did something wrong. When the dog goes to the bathroom on my carpet, I spank him, so why not the kid?

My father in law said something very enlightening to me when I was pregnant and it's stuck with me since (my child is now 6 months old). He said that spanking normally has no effect in the child, that it's more of an anger release for the parent. And after seeing the way I react to the dog, I realize he is right. Smacking the crap out of my dog isn't going to make him stop pooping in my house, he needs be properly trained. When I hit him, it's normally because I'm releasing my own anger of having the clean the shit up.

It's the same with my child. He needs to be guided and taught proper manners, not beaten after the fact. I can't sit here and say I may never smack his hand or smack his butt, because in the heat of the moment when he's older I don't know what I'd do, but seeing those pictures disgust me.

There's spanking your kids butt, and there's brutally beating them with a "weapon" that leaves marks over a week later. I certainly wouldn't ever leave my child with anyone who did that to them.

Well put, thanks.

 

[bshole]

Is flogging your weasel more acceptable than whipping your child? Just curious....

 

[fskimospy]

The kid is 4 yrs old. A smack to his backside with an open hand is sufficient.

Otherwise, this is blown way out of proportion. I think it's because the PC Left has decided they don't approve of football etc. Get Peterson some counseling/training and move on.

Fern

Until today I was unaware that only the PC left cares about people beating their children to the extent that they are subject to arrest for child abuse. I'm quite certain that I would be immediately suspended from my job or (more likely) simply fired if I were subject to a similar arrest.

Here's hoping that the rest of you guys catch up to the PC left.

 

[cubby1223]

I'm quite certain that I would be immediately suspended from my job or (more likely) simply fired if I were subject to a similar arrest.

It depends on how valuable you are to the business.

 

[fskimospy]

It depends on how valuable you are to the business.

Nope. There is not a single person who works in my organization that would not be at a minimum suspended if not fired following an arrest for child abuse. Not a single one. I wouldn't be surprised if is a violation of the law for someone to keep working, actually.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I wonder if all the other professional sports are going to get onboard the suspend anyone that's arrested or accused of committing a crime.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Nope. There is not a single person who works in my organization that would not be at a minimum suspended if not fired following an arrest for child abuse. Not a single one. I wouldn't be surprised if is a violation of the law for someone to keep working, actually.

So innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply? What happens when the person is acquitted? Do they get their job back and compensated for lost time?

 

[fskimospy]

So innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply? What happens when the person is acquitted? Do they get their job back and compensated for lost time?

It depends on a whole bunch of things I won't get into and the classification of employee. For my type both reinstatement and compensation are unlikely.

 

[Retro Rob]

So innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply? What happens when the person is acquitted? Do they get their job back and compensated for lost time?

You have a right to work, but not a right to that particular job. And as long as you aren't under a contract to make X amount of dollars, I don't think you're owned anything.

 

[cubby1223]

Nope. There is not a single person who works in my organization that would not be at a minimum suspended if not fired following an arrest for child abuse. Not a single one. I wouldn't be surprised if is a violation of the law for someone to keep working, actually.

How am I wrong? Your business sounds like it has positioned itself such that most employes are easily replaceable. Or the business you work for deals with services to children?

If you were one of the employees who your connections, your unique skills, your knowledge, brings in revenues, or enables other people to accomplish their jobs, the situation has flipped around, and being outcasted from the organization is most certainly not a guaranteed outcome.

I have several friends who have over the years found themselves in positions with their employers where if they left, or if they were fired, suddenly a team of 10 to 20 other employees are no longer able to work their jobs until a very skilled replacement is located and hired.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Honestly, the thing I hate the most about this is that it is the personal life of someone. Why are we telling someone what they should be doing in their personal life? What, just because he is a sports star?

You don't tell Bob in consulting what to do with his daughter, why Adrian Peterson with his son? Business XYZ doesn't punish Bob when Bob belts his daughter and the public doesn't approve. So why can the NFL legally punish him over these actions?

My point simply being, if this is deemed illegal, take it to the court of law so a judge can do what they were employed for (interpreting our laws) and punish him if deemed necessary. But leave the fucking NFL and all the other shit out of it.

 

[rpanic]

Until today I was unaware that only the PC left cares about people beating their children to the extent that they are subject to arrest for child abuse. I'm quite certain that I would be immediately suspended from my job or (more likely) simply fired if I were subject to a similar arrest.

Here's hoping that the rest of you guys catch up to the PC left.

Wow, most blacks give their vote to the PC left and beat their kids more than any other group. I don’t think it has much of anything to do with politics left or right.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Except, that isn't true at all. How does someone respect you if they have no understand of respect? You think a 4 year old has that understand? They don't understand right or wrong or good or bad. Not to the point that explaining why they should or shouldn't act in a certain way. Until they have an actual understand, they won't respond to things like that.

If they truly lack the capacity to understand respect as it pertains to discipline, then they aren't going to understand a whipping as a lesson either, merely as abject violence directed at them when they're in no state to comprehend what they've done. You can't be of the frame of mind that a child has no capacity to understand respect or learn from their mistakes and simultaneously believe "except for violence which they clearly understand the purpose of." And regardless of how you feel about some forms of corporal punishment, I think anyone should be able to agree that a whipping that leaves open wounds and requires a doctor visit is taking things way too far. What the fuck is a child going to learn from that? Daddy's a mean fucker?

 

[Fern]

Until today I was unaware that only the PC left cares about people beating their children to the extent that they are subject to arrest for child abuse. I'm quite certain that I would be immediately suspended from my job or (more likely) simply fired if I were subject to a similar arrest.

Here's hoping that the rest of you guys catch up to the PC left.

NFL player have a lower rate of domestic violence incidents/arrests than the general population yet they're singled out:

Based on the approximate 2,560 players that are on NFL teams in training camp and the regular season, Benjamin Morris of FiveThirtyEight reports that the league’s arrest rate for domestic violence is just 55.4 percent of the national average. Of the 1,696 players that are currently on NFL rosters, 0.7 percent have been arrested for domestic violence in the last nine years, per NBC News.

http://www.ibtimes.com/nfl-domestic...n-peterson-other-players-compare-rest-1690695

Fern

 

[Fern]

Nope. There is not a single person who works in my organization that would not be at a minimum suspended if not fired following an arrest for child abuse. Not a single one. I wouldn't be surprised if is a violation of the law for someone to keep working, actually.

Typo or brain cramp?

Fern

 

[fskimospy]

Typo or brain cramp?

Fern

Simple factual statement for my organization?

 

[fskimospy]

NFL player have a lower rate of domestic violence incidents/arrests than the general population yet they're singled out:

http://www.ibtimes.com/nfl-domestic...n-peterson-other-players-compare-rest-1690695

Fern

What's your point? Public figures aren't held to the same standards as the general population.

 

[Fern]

Simple factual statement for my organization?

Sounds like a typo then. Seems you were referring to your employer's "policy".

Fern

 

[fskimospy]

Sounds like a typo then. Seems you were referring to your employer's "policy".

Fern

No, the "law".

 

[CitizenKain]

Until today I was unaware that only the PC left cares about people beating their children to the extent that they are subject to arrest for child abuse. I'm quite certain that I would be immediately suspended from my job or (more likely) simply fired if I were subject to a similar arrest.

Here's hoping that the rest of you guys catch up to the PC left.

No, its because the rightwingers are big into child abuse. They were raised by shitty worthless people who used violence as a crutch instead of being decent people.

 

[waggy]

Nope. There is not a single person who works in my organization that would not be at a minimum suspended if not fired following an arrest for child abuse. Not a single one. I wouldn't be surprised if is a violation of the law for someone to keep working, actually.

wait? what?

against the law? no.

No, the "law".

care to point out the law that says you have to fire someone after the arrest of child abuse?

The kid is 4 yrs old. A smack to his backside with an open hand is sufficient.

Otherwise, this is blown way out of proportion. I think it's because the PC Left has decided they don't approve of football etc. Get Peterson some counseling/training and move on.

Fern

But this is not a smack on his backside with a hand (wich i am all for and have used). This was getting a branch stripping it and beating him so bad that days after cuts and welts were still viable.

 

[squarecut1]

No, its because the rightwingers are big into child abuse. .

Correction: The right wing is big into world abuse. Let's drop some more bombs now

 

[fskimospy]

wait? what?

against the law? no.

care to point out the law that says you have to fire someone after the arrest of child abuse?

Your organization might not have to fire you, but I would not be at all surprised if the law requires mine to at a minimum suspend someone. I don't know the particular regulations that govern it, however.