NFL Star RB Adrian Peterson posts Bail For Whippin' His Child

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-child-abuse-allegation-against-adrian-peterson/

Adrian Peterson whips his 4-year old son.

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A second accusation of child abuse has surfaced against star Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson, dating back more than a year.

The new allegation was first reported by CBS Houston affiliate KHOU-TV and, notes CBS News correspondent Vladimir Duthiers, there are several parallels to the first case.

Both alleged victims are Peterson's own sons. The abuse allegedly happened while they were visiting his home. And in both cases, text messages have been recovered.

There are purported photos of the victim -- a 4-year-old boy -- who was left scarred by the alleged incident last June.

In text messages obtained by KHOU, the mother reportedly asked Peterson, "What happened to his head?" Peterson responded, "Hit his head on the car seat."

But when the mother asked, "How does this happen? He got a whoopin' in the car?" Peterson allegedly answered, "Yep," adding that, while he felt bad, his son did it to himself.

According to KHOU, in other text messages, Peterson said he disciplined his son for cussing to a sibling. The mother is said to have reported the incident to Child Protective Services, but no charges were filed.

Monday night, the Vikings said they were aware of the other allegation and referred questions to Peterson's attorney, Rusty Hardin.

Hardin told CBS News, "The allegation of another investigation into Adrian Peterson is simply not true. The allegation is more than one year old and authorities took no action. An adult witness admittedly insists Adrian did nothing inappropriate with his son."

One thing I can definitely say most black people have right in this country? Whippin' some ass when people disrespect. Parents just need to do more of it.

The only part I can disagree with is any part that relates to the bold. Hitting your kid on the head? I haven't seen any pics (feel free to share if you have), but just in general I can't see a reason to hit them over the head unless it's one simple slap across the face. Belts to the ass is where it should go :D

But lastly, what justification (aside from mental/physical disabilities) do we have in telling other parents how to parent their own children? Anyone, that feels they have the parenting handbook needs to hand it over so we can slap them in the face with it until they bleed. Because it doesn't exist.
 
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theeedude

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Sounds like the kid accidentally hit his head on car seat while he was getting whipped, not that the intent of the whipping was to hit his head. I don't believe in this kind of discipline myself, but it's within the range of discretion that parents should have in discipline without CPS involvement.
 

Genx87

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Eh taking a branch off a tree to whip a 4 year old is child abuse in my opinion. The pictures show he took it way too far.
 

smackababy

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Eh taking a branch off a tree to whip a 4 year old is child abuse in my opinion. The pictures show he took it way too far.

I don't think so. Having been on the business end of a few switches, they injuries are misleading. I think AP might have been a bit overzealous (and this could have to do with the fact he is of the elite among professional athletes and far stronger than 99.999% of the population), but a switch delivered to a child with their butt exposed could leave some marks.

This isn't child abuse. At worst, he was negligent in regards to his own strength.


Sadly, we live in an age where it is illegal to discipline your kids. As a result, we have a bunch of entitled fuckwads running around. Thankfully, AP's kids don't look like they are going to be part of that spoiled, entitled movement.
 

Retro Rob

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I don't think so. Having been on the business end of a few switches, they injuries are misleading. I think AP might have been a bit overzealous (and this could have to do with the fact he is of the elite among professional athletes and far stronger than 99.999% of the population), but a switch delivered to a child with their butt exposed could leave some marks.

This isn't child abuse. At worst, he was negligent in regards to his own strength.


Sadly, we live in an age where it is illegal to discipline your kids. As a result, we have a bunch of entitled fuckwads running around. Thankfully, AP's kids don't look like they are going to be part of that spoiled, entitled movement.


The bruises are disturbing, but I agree with you completely. Listening to local talk radio this morning, outrage ensues...people clamoring to outlaw corporal punishment, etc, etc.

Same old outrage, just another day.
 

Genx87

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I don't think so. Having been on the business end of a few switches, they injuries are misleading. I think AP might have been a bit overzealous (and this could have to do with the fact he is of the elite among professional athletes and far stronger than 99.999% of the population), but a switch delivered to a child with their butt exposed could leave some marks.

This isn't child abuse. At worst, he was negligent in regards to his own strength.


Sadly, we live in an age where it is illegal to discipline your kids. As a result, we have a bunch of entitled fuckwads running around. Thankfully, AP's kids don't look like they are going to be part of that spoiled, entitled movement.

Are you kidding me? Using a tree branch to whip a 4 year old so bad a doctor had to call it in days after the fact? Lets move past the 1800s and find a better way to discipline children. Why resort to that sort of violence on a child? That screams bad parenting to me.

We don't live in an age of it being illegal to discipline children. We live in an age where we decided to move past disciplining by bad parents that resort to this type of physical violence.

AD had this type of physical violence thrust upon him at an early age. What was the result? He whipped a 4 year old defenseless child so bad the physical evidence was evident days after the fact. And I guess in this story whipped the kid in the car and bonked his head. What a wonderful example he is setting for his children.
 

Slew Foot

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Americas grandparents used to whip their slaves for discipline so I guess it means thats still oK to do. AP is lucky he didnt whip a dog or he'd be on death row right now.
 

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If people beat their kids, their kids should be taken from them, and the parents should be whipped in public, along with their parents. If you think AP didn't do anything wrong, please shoot yourself and make the world a better place.
 

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I am all for spanking. it is a effective tool if used sparingly.

What AP did though is abuse. he went and got a branch off a tree. striped it of small twigs and then beat his 4 yr old with it.

that is abuse not spanking.
 

cubby1223

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I don't think so. Having been on the business end of a few switches, they injuries are misleading. I think AP might have been a bit overzealous (and this could have to do with the fact he is of the elite among professional athletes and far stronger than 99.999% of the population), but a switch delivered to a child with their butt exposed could leave some marks.

This isn't child abuse. At worst, he was negligent in regards to his own strength.

Sadly, we live in an age where it is illegal to discipline your kids. As a result, we have a bunch of entitled fuckwads running around. Thankfully, AP's kids don't look like they are going to be part of that spoiled, entitled movement.

I just once again have to point out your username is "smack a baby"...

Violence perpetuates more violence. The child is too young to understand how to make decisions based on right versus wrong in random situations. But the child is certainly learning that violence is the answer to dealing with other people.
 

cubby1223

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If people beat their kids, their kids should be taken from them, and the parents should be whipped in public, along with their parents. If you think AP didn't do anything wrong, please shoot yourself and make the world a better place.

Ummm, no...
 

cubby1223

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Americas grandparents used to whip their slaves for discipline so I guess it means thats still oK to do. AP is lucky he didnt whip a dog or he'd be on death row right now.

Players can rejoin the NFL after a conviction of dog abuse and become fan favorites again...
 

Retro Rob

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Americas grandparents used to whip their slaves for discipline so I guess it means thats still oK to do. AP is lucky he didnt whip a dog or he'd be on death row right now.

In your attempt at equivalence, you're comparing slaves to children. We don't whip our slaves any more so we shouldn't whip out children.

Think that through next time.
 
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cubby1223

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In your attempt at equivalence, you're comparing slaves to children. We don't whip our slaves any more so we shouldn't whip out children.

Think that through next time.

His point is the exact same as yours. Just said backwards for emphasis.
 
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All I can say is this: Discipline and respect needs to taught to children. That form of discipline doesn't need to be in the form of spanking or any other physical harm. Have I done spanking or worse? Yes. Does it work? It may have at times, but in most cases, it hasn't made any difference. Do I regret it every single time? Absolutely. End result: Not worth it.

Kids are like dogs. Once they go into the "red zone" there is no bring them back. Most forms of physical discipline are usually administered while they are in the "red zone." You can't reason with them, they can't control themselves, and I've seen many times where the kid almost begs for it and wants you to beat their ass. Once they are in full temper tantrum mode, no form of discipline works unfortunately.

Therefore physical punishment is effectively useless to the parent. The best thing to do is to do the opposite. Calm them down, then administer discipline. The best way to do that: Ignore them completely until they run out of steam and give up, then you tell them the results of their temper tantrum. Reward them if they prevented themselves from going into the "red zone" to begin with and made a good judgment call.

That seems to have better results. But all I can say is that the parent needs to make the call on what form works best for their children. All children may act differently. It's not for me to say how to discipline their child. However. There is a side of responsibility for the parent. If they administer physical punishment out of their own anger/frustration, then the parent has lost control, and I frown upon that. If it's done with a cool head, then I'm ok with it. That is the first thing that I look for when I see another parent discipline their child.
 

thraashman

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If you would do it to an adult and it would be assault, then it is assault when you do it to your child. Just because they are your child does not make them your property. There is no excuse to hit your children.
 

dank69

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If you would do it to an adult and it would be assault, then it is assault when you do it to your child. Just because they are your child does not make them your property. There is no excuse to hit your children.
This. So much this.
 

Retro Rob

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If you would do it to an adult and it would be assault, then it is assault when you do it to your child. Just because they are your child does not make them your property. There is no excuse to hit your children.


You're taking it there with your adult reference, so under no circumstances do you hit your child, but there are cirmustances that you can legally kill an adult in some states.

Oh yeah, the "poor defenseless child" emotional appeal....save it. Some children are bad, even in the face of good parenting, they can be sneaky, they can lie, steal, etc.

Yes, timeouts, talking, taking things from them doesn't work for every child. A little spanking (not beatings) can be a bigger deterrent than anything else, and a good motivator.

It works if administered properly, and not as a first resort.

That being said, 4 years old is a bit young for that...I'd perfer that for an older child who knows right from wrong.
 
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All I can say is this: Discipline and respect needs to taught to children. That form of discipline doesn't need to be in the form of spanking or any other physical harm. Have I done spanking or worse? Yes. Does it work? It may have at times, but in most cases, it hasn't made any difference. Do I regret it every single time? Absolutely. End result: Not worth it.

Kids are like dogs. Once they go into the "red zone" there is no bring them back. Most forms of physical discipline are usually administered while they are in the "red zone." You can't reason with them, they can't control themselves, and I've seen many times where the kid almost begs for it and wants you to beat their ass. Once they are in full temper tantrum mode, no form of discipline works unfortunately.

Therefore physical punishment is effectively useless to the parent. The best thing to do is to do the opposite. Calm them down, then administer discipline. The best way to do that: Ignore them completely until they run out of steam and give up, then you tell them the results of their temper tantrum. Reward them if they prevented themselves from going into the "red zone" to begin with and made a good judgment call.

That seems to have better results. But all I can say is that the parent needs to make the call on what form works best for their children. All children may act differently. It's not for me to say how to discipline their child. However. There is a side of responsibility for the parent. If they administer physical punishment out of their own anger/frustration, then the parent has lost control, and I frown upon that. If it's done with a cool head, then I'm ok with it. That is the first thing that I look for when I see another parent discipline their child.

The problem with young children is very similar to the problem with dogs. They lack the understanding and reasoning to realize punishment delivered after the act has passed. Spanking your young child for something he did last week isn't going to help correct what he did last week. Spanking him immediately after the offense, will show that he clearly did something wrong and punishment was administered. Your dog doesn't understand why you're yelling at him hours after he peed in your house. You have to correct the issue at the time.

I think AP did "go overboard", but I don't think it was intentional. He likely hit harder than he understands, as he is a very strong person. A switch does leave, at least, a welt if a sharp strike is made. Using one shouldn't be child abuse, nor should it spark outrage except by helicopter parents "thinking of the children!".

Once, I decided to mouth off to my mother in a store because she wouldn't get my some candy bar or a trinket or something. I said something I damn well knew was wrong. She quickly popped me in the mouth. I never even considered saying something remotely similar to her in the future. Spanking works, if applied correctly.
 

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Under no circumstances should a parent hit/spank/slap their child. And yes I have a kid. And yes I was spanked (sparingly) as a child.
There are so many more effective ways to communicate to the child that they did something wrong.
Surprisingly, letting a child get through their temper tantrum and then calmly explaining that what they did is wrong - and why - is effective.
Authoritarian parenting is not the answer.
 

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The kid is 4 yrs old. A smack to his backside with an open hand is sufficient.

Otherwise, this is blown way out of proportion. I think it's because the PC Left has decided they don't approve of football etc. Get Peterson some counseling/training and move on.

Fern
 
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Under no circumstances should a parent hit/spank/slap their child. And yes I have a kid. And yes I was spanked (sparingly) as a child.
There are so many more effective ways to communicate to the child that they did something wrong.
Surprisingly, letting a child get through their temper tantrum and then calmly explaining that what they did is wrong - and why - is effective.
Authoritarian parenting is not the answer.

What happens when they disrespect your wife?

When it turns from crying because they didn't get their way to calling your wife (the one you love, the one that parents and feeds the child from birth) a bitch and a wise and beautiful woman?

What then? Sorry, just throwing this out there since the only "spanking" situation everyone seems to get into their head is a kid crying because he can't watch TV or something.