NFL players will be forced to stand - because...uhmm...America is a free country

[Zorba]

Each employer has to right to write their own code of conduct under their employee rules and the employee has to decide whether or not they wish to comply and knows what the consequences are if they don't.

Not when there is a CBA and not when the forced participation is in a government funded activity. I'd think it could also fall under antidiscrimination laws since there are religious and ethnic reasons to not participate.

 

[sdifox]

I have no problem with this decision. If I owned a team I’d just keep them all off the field until the anthem is over.
I don’t blame the league for wanting to avoid stuff that detracts from the game.

Like endless commercial breaks?

 

[MajinCry]

Its a free country in that they have a right to work somewhere else. If I tried that crap I would be fired!

So much for being a free country; free to do what your employer tells you to do.

 

[Noah Abrams]

Its a free country in that they have a right to work somewhere else. If I tried that crap I would be fired!

Except that standing to an anthem has nothing to do with their job duties. Can an employer force its employees to do some devil dance or whatever other ritual they come up with?

 

[sdifox]

No issue with this. Cheerleader cannot pester people about her beliefs, players don't get to kneel.

 

[UglyCasanova]

So much for being a free country; free to do what your employer tells you to do.

While you are being paid and representing them, yeah.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

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Because nothing says "patriotism" quite like ordering people under penalty of a fine to stand up during the National Anthem,

Yeah, try holding a political protest that costs your company customers while you're on the clock and see how far your patriotism gets you. The players are free to sit on their own time, that's where the freedom lies. When they're representing a company their boss owns their ass and he has every right to demand they behave in a manner that does not reflect badly on his business. You're smart enough to understand that, so shove your fake bleeding heart outrage up your ass.

 

[MrSquished]

Yeah, try holding a political protest that costs your company customers while you're on the clock and see how far your patriotism gets you. The players are free to sit on their own time, that's where the freedom lies. When they're representing a company their boss owns their ass and he has every right to demand they behave in a manner that does not reflect badly on his business. You're smart enough to understand that, so shove your fake bleeding heart outrage up your ass.

actually what he said is quite fucking on point. We pride ourselves on free speech being one of the foundations of our patriotism. It's just a bit ironic that the system becomes just that much more fascistic and jingoistic under the guise of patriotism - undermining one of the tenets of what makes us proud to be patriotic in the first place.

 

[Noah Abrams]

Yeah, try holding a political protest that costs your company customers while you're on the clock and see how far your patriotism gets you. The players are free to sit on their own time, that's where the freedom lies. When they're representing a company their boss owns their ass and he has every right to demand they behave in a manner that does not reflect badly on his business. You're smart enough to understand that, so shove your fake bleeding heart outrage up your ass.

Looks like your concept of patriotism is that saying, the beatings will continue until the morale improves

 

[UglyCasanova]

We pride ourselves on free speech being one of the foundations of our patriotism.

Except if it’s hateful

 

[Noah Abrams]

Except if it’s hateful

“Hate” speech, a subjective concept, is part of free speech

 

[feralkid]

What are these guys protesting against? Anybody remember?

Are you fucking kidding?

Talk about clueless...woah, daddy!

I'll give you a hint...it's not about the prevalence of white people being shot by police officers.

 

[UglyCasanova]

You think hate speech should be protected?

 

[Noah Abrams]

You think hate speech should be protected?

Let me answer it this way. If you think otherwise you seriously need to go back and read up (or watch as the trend is these days) about the foundations of this country

 

[IJTSSG]

Are you fucking kidding?

Talk about clueless...woah, daddy!

I'll give you a hint...it's not about the prevalence of white people being shot by police officers.

Read it again, you'll get it.

 

[UglyCasanova]

 

[MajinCry]

While you are being paid and representing them, yeah.

So much for freedom of speech, if you can't use your position in society to speak out about social ills.

 

[Noah Abrams]

Here is a conservative asshole, the exact kind who bemoans political correctness and lack of freedom in universities and other spaces..

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What’s indisputable is that for a certain, very vocal segment of football fans, the decision to kneel during the anthem represented an intolerable insult against the country and the flag. In the minds of these fans, the de facto blacklisting of Colin Kaepernick — the former San Francisco 49ers quarterback who started the protest — represented an appropriate consequence.

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https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/nfl-new-kneeling-policy-national-anthem-likely-to-backfire/

 

[Noah Abrams]

Here is another guy who was reviled for taking a principled stand. The guy also happens to be one of the greatest athletes ever in any sport.

In his case, his license was revoked, he was stripped of his title. He was arrested, sentenced to five years in prison and fined heavily

His crime? Refusal to go kill innocent men, women and children.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Cool starry bra. Nobody is saying kneeling is a crime, the gov isn’t stopping them. The employer gets to protect its image.

 

[Jaskalas]

NFL players will be forced to...

Let's see. NFL players are expected to... not be criminals, show up, wear clothes, play a game, and be millionaires.
Damn, they be so oppressed. It's almost like they are... employees doing something for money. A hell of a lot of money.

 

[evident]

It's ok because most are black anyways

FTFY
thats what you really wanted to say, right?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

So much for being a free country; free to do what your employer tells you to do.

Like EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE ON EARTH. WTF color is the sky in your delusion world?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

actually what he said is quite fucking on point. We pride ourselves on free speech being one of the foundations of our patriotism. It's just a bit ironic that the system becomes just that much more fascistic and jingoistic under the guise of patriotism - undermining one of the tenets of what makes us proud to be patriotic in the first place.

What he said is as stupid as what you said. The fact that you're equally ignorant does not make either of you right, it makes you collectively pathetic.

WE HAVE FREE SPEECH ASSHOLE. Nobody is charging these guys with crimes, hauling them off to a gulag or summarily executing them for their views. They can sit for every anthem played freely, openly and without fear of prosecution. THAT IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH. And the owner has freedom too. He has freedom to dictate the terms of employment, he has the freedom to dictate an acceptable standard of behavior from his employees while they are on the clock, wearing his uniform and representing his business. That holds true for EVERY EMPLOYEE whether they're wearing an NFL uniform, a UPS uniform, a McDonalds uniform or a toll collectors uniform. And it holds true for you too even if your head is too far up your ass to realize it. We all live by rules set forth by our employers, that's the condition we FREELY accept in exchange for a paycheck. And anyone who doesn't agree to abide by that universal truth is free to walk out the door and seek employment someplace else without fear of arrest for exercising their free speech.

Please explain exactly which part of that you're too stupid to understand.

 

[Incorruptible]

Their employer doesn't want them to do this then those are the rules. Its a private business and most people who tried to protest at their work would get fired. I do like how this is a big screw you to the left.