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NFL Players 'Concerned' About Lockout Expenses/Gym Memberships

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the union has been telling them about COBRA and to sock away money for COBRA (go joe!) coverage for a couple years now. if the players weren't smart enough to pay attention to what the union and their agents were telling them then that's their own dumb fault.

The article states as much, and even points out that very few players are not in a position to make the adjustment. The subject line in the OP is misleading, as there is only a tangentially related mention of gym memberships, as it wasn't a part of a quote from any player. Just a brief mention from the author of the piece.

The bigger issue is the lack of healthcare for those who are no longer in the league, but suffer the effects the rest of their life. Part of the disagreement between the union and owners has to do with that fact.
 
While I believe $2m is a lot of money, you all need to get a perspective from the rest of the pro sports. The MLB average salary is $3.2m (2010), NBA is $5.2m (2008), NHL $2.4m (2010). So making the least of any major pro sport, seems fair they would want more since they go through the most physically demanding one.
 
<---- Playing the worlds smallest violin



Everyone whos going for an NFL career knows what its all about. I dont feel sorry for a single one of them, if they think its slavery, they can find someone to pay them 10 million a year for picking cotton.
 
player's response:

March 19, 2011
Roger Goodell
Commissioner
National Football League
280 Park Avenue

New York, NY 10017
Dear Roger:
This responds to the letter you sent to all NFL players on March 17.
We start by reminding you that we were there at the negotiations and know the truth about what happened (bold emphasis in the original letter), which ultimately led the players to renounce the NFLPA's status as the collective bargaining representative of NFL players. The players took this step only as a last resort, and only after two years of trying to reach a reasonable collective bargaining agreement and three weeks of mediation with George Cohen of the FMCS. At all times during the mediation session we had representatives at the table with the authority to make a deal. The NFL representatives at the mediation did not, and the owners were mostly absent.
The mediation was the end of a two-year process started on May 18, 2009, when our Executive Director sent you a letter requesting audited financial statements to justify your opting out of the CBA (letter attached).
The NFLPA did all it could to reach a fair collective bargaining agreement and made numerous proposals to address the concerns raised by the owners. In response, the owners never justified their demands for a massive give-back which would have resulted in the worst economic deal for players in major league pro sports.
That is why we were very troubled to see your letter, and repeated press reports by yourself, Jeff Pash, and the owners, which claim that the owners met the players halfway in the negotiations, and that the owners offered a fair deal to the players.
Your statements are false.
We will let the facts speak for themselves.
-The proposal by the NFL was not an "a la carte" proposal. The changes in offseason workouts and other benefits to players were conditioned upon the players accepting an economic framework that was unjustified and unfair.
-Your proposal called for a pegged amount for the salary cap plus benefits starting at 141M in 2011 and increasing to 161M in 2014, regardless of NFL revenues. These amounts by themselves would have set the players back years, and were based on unrealistically low revenue projections. Your proposal also would have given the owners 100&#37; of all revenues above the low projections, including the first year of new TV contracts in 2014. Your offer did NOT meet the players halfway when it would have given 100% of the additional revenues to the owners.
-As a result, the players' share of NFL revenues would have suffered a massive decrease. This is clear by comparing your proposal to what the players would receive under the 50% share of all revenues they have had for the past twenty years.
-If NFL revenues grow at 8% over the next four years (consistent with Moody's projections), which is the same growth rate it has been for the past decade, then the cap plus benefits with our historical share would be 159M in 2011 (18M more per team than your 141M proposal) and grow to 201M per team in 2014 (40M more per team than your 161M proposal).
-Your proposal would have resulted in a league-wide giveback by the players of 576M in 2011 increasing to 1.2 BILLION in 2014, for a total of more than 3.6 BILLION for just the first four years. Even if revenues increased at a slower rate of only 5%, the players would still have lost over 2 BILLION over the next four years. These amounts would be even higher if your stadium deductions apply to the first four years (your proposal did not note any such limits on these deductions).
-We believe these massive givebacks were not justified at all by the owners, especially given recent projections by Moody's that NFL media revenues are expected to double to about 8 BILLION per year during the next TV deal.
-Given that you have repeatedly admitted that your clubs are not losing money, the billions of dollars in givebacks you proposed would have gone directly into the owners' pockets. We understand why the owners would want to keep 100% of this additional money, but trying to sell it as a fair deal to the players is not truthful.
-You proposed a CBA term of ten years. But you did not include any proposal on the players' share of revenues after the first four years, which left open entirely how much more the owners would have taken from the players.
-The owners continued to refuse to give any financial justification for these massive givebacks. Our auditors and bankers told us the extremely limited information you offered just a few days before the mediation ended would be meaningless.
-Your rookie compensation proposal went far beyond addressing any problem of rookie "busts", and amounted to severely restricting veteran salaries for all or most of their careers, since most players play less than 4 years. What your letter doesn't say is that you proposed to limit compensation long after rookies become veterans &#8212; into players' fourth and fifth years. As our player leadership told you and the owners time and again during the negotiations, the current players would not sell out their future teammates who will be veterans in a few short years.
-Your proposal did not offer to return the 320M taken from players by the elimination of certain benefits in 2010. It also did not offer to compensate over 200 players who were adversely affected in 2010 by a change in the free agency rules. Your letter did not even address a finding by a federal judge that you orchestrated new television contracts to benefit the NFL during the lockout that you imposed.
-You continued to ask for an 18 game season, offering to delay it for only one more year (you earlier said it could not be implemented in 2011 no matter what due to logistical issues). This was so even though the players and our medical experts warned you many times that increasing the season would increase the risk of player injury and shorten careers.
-All of the other elements you offered in the mediation, which you claim the players should have been eager to accept, were conditioned on the players agreeing to a rollback of their traditional share of 50/50 of all revenues to what it was in the 1980&#8242;s, which would have given up the successes the players fought for and won by asserting their rights in court, including the financial benefits of free agency the players won in the Freeman McNeil and Reggie White litigations more than 20 years ago.
-The cap system for the past twenty years has always been one in which the players were guaranteed to share in revenue growth as partners. Your proposal would have shifted to a system in which players are told how much they will get, instead of knowing their share will grow with revenues, and end the partnership.
You had ample time over the last two years to make a proposal that would be fair to both sides, but you failed to do so. During the last week of the mediation, we waited the entire week for the NFL to make a new economic proposal. That proposal did not come until 12:30 on Friday, and, when we examined it, we found it was worse than the proposal the NFL had made the prior week when we agreed to extend the mediation. At that point it became clear to everyone that the NFL had no intention to make a good faith effort to resolve these issues in collective bargaining and the owners were determined to carry out the lockout strategy they decided on in 2007.
We thus had no choice except to conclude that it was in the best interests of all NFL players to renounce collective bargaining so the players could pursue their antitrust rights to stop the lockout. We no longer have the authority to collectively bargain on behalf of the NFL players, and are supporting the players who are asserting their antitrust rights in the Brady litigation. We have heard that you have offered to have discussions with representatives of the players. As you know, the players are represented by class counsel in the Brady litigation, with the NFLPA and its Executive Committee serving as an advisor to any such settlement discussions. If you have any desire to discuss a settlement of the issues in that case, you should contact Class Counsel.

Sincerely,

Kevin Mawae
Charlie Batch
Drew Brees
Brian Dawkins
Domonique Foxworth
Scott Fujita
Sean Morey
Tony Richardson
Jeff Saturday
Mike Vrabel
Brian Waters
 
It is not just a gym membership. A lot of players have off season surgery. Guess who would pay for that now? The players. Thats pricey, not to mention rehab.

Im amazed at how many people are siding with the owners on this thing. The players didnt want to stop working, they wanted things how they were. Its the owners who want more money, and more games. And who will not share reports regarding profits when asked.

People need to get all the facts, before making ignorant comments about how much players make, and them crying.
 
It is not just a gym membership. A lot of players have off season surgery. Guess who would pay for that now? The players. Thats pricey, not to mention rehab.

Im amazed at how many people are siding with the owners on this thing. The players didnt want to stop working, they wanted things how they were. Its the owners who want more money, and more games. And who will not share reports regarding profits when asked.

People need to get all the facts, before making ignorant comments about how much players make, and them crying.

I side with the owners. The players are compensated quite while for what they are asked to do. If they don't like it they can go get a job paying $50k like everyone else.
 
I'm not siding with either, but I know that if there's no football next year, I won't be watching when it eventually returns.

The shelf life of a player is a lot lower than that of an owner, though, so the lockout tactic is pretty obviously what the owners had planned all along. The goal is to sweat out the players for a year, have the current group realize it's one less year they'll be in their athletic prime and getting paid, and have them come crawling back to the table. On that alone, I'd pick the players if I had to pick a side.
 
You should'nt side with the players. The Superbowl champion, always packed seats, Green Bay Packers is a public company and sheds light on what players demand from owners: full financial disclosure and whole corporation make less than some individual players!

For the league, the Packers&#8217; financial results support its contention that it has to reduce what its teams pay their players. &#8220;There&#8217;s a strong sense that the current agreement went too far to the players and that it was one-sided,&#8221; Murphy said.

The Packers earn much less than they did four years ago. Their operating profit fell 71 percent from $34.2 million in the year ended March 31, 2007 (which coincides with the start of the current collective-bargaining agreement), to $9.8 million in the year ended last March 31. Revenue rose 18 percent in that period to $257.9 million.

The primary reason for the sharply reduced profit was player costs (salaries and benefits), which swelled in those years to $160.8 million from $110.7 million.


&#8220;When your revenue goes up in a recessionary period, your profits should go up, but they diverge here and that&#8217;s attributable to higher player costs and team expenses,&#8221; said Marc Ganis, a sports industry consultant.

Murphy said, &#8220;Our player costs are growing at twice the rate our revenue is growing.&#8221;


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/sports/football/28packers.html


I don't know about any of you, but I would not buy something for 1 billion dollars (what teams cost these days) that only paid me out 10 million a year, or 100 years to get my money back! If you value pro Football enough to actually have it in the future, the owners&#8217; argument is at the very least plausible.

Some of you would say just raise ticket prices but there is only so much public will pay and I think we are there already in this economy.
 
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Common, the Packers could double the price of a ticket and they would still fill the stadium every freakin game, those fans are seriously nuts.
 
While I believe $2m is a lot of money, you all need to get a perspective from the rest of the pro sports. The MLB average salary is $3.2m (2010), NBA is $5.2m (2008), NHL $2.4m (2010). So making the least of any major pro sport, seems fair they would want more since they go through the most physically demanding one.

How does this matter? Balance sheets are totally different. Amount of players is totally different. Games played is totally different. What matters is can teams afford it or not.
 
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