NFL in Mexico

[Kev]

Originally posted by: KillyKillall

Originally posted by: Ophir
Calm down. The reason the stadium filled up is because of the novelty. There are few real football fans in Mexico, definitely not enough to support more than one or two games a year - definitely not enough to sustain an actual team (if that's what your hinting at). Any games played there in the future will most likely be throwaway games anyway. It's too damned far and too damned hostile a physical environment (7400ft elevation and heavy air pollution) to play a game that actually matters. It'll only serve as a gimmick to lure people to watch the Lions play the Texans.

Actually, that isn't the point I was driving at. If it can prove to be a success in a different city all the time...they could end up having 1 game per week in a different country. For example:

week 1: az vs. sf in London
week 2: green bay vs. texas in Perth
week 3: titans vs. jags in Dresden...etc..etc..

That is what I'm worried about, not an expansion from another country. One of the reasons I know AZ has problems getting people at games is because they are one of the most expensive teams to go see....what kind of retard move is that..<sigh>

I'll investigate the ticket prices for all teams and post.

It might also have to do with the fact that they are HORRIBLE.

 

[KillyKillall]

Um...if teams are horrible...HIGHER REVENUE = (lower ticket prices X more people) > (higher ticket prices X less people)

 

[HardcoreRobot]

everything you say is correct, however the exposure and long-term gain by playing games down there will probably outweigh the short-term losses.

also, if every team is required to play these type of games (im not sure about this) then that takes the element of unfairness out

 

[MrMaster]

They were 2 sucky teams and Arizona I think never sells out. Well, if you put the packers in that situation..losing a home game...I can't even imagine that happening.

Mexico City is soo damn big, but poor, I can't see them having their own team. NFL Europe isn't exploding either.

Lastly, I drafted Rackers cause Arizona sucks which usually means more field goals. He was the leading field goal kicker this year even before last night.

 

[KillyKillall]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
everything you say is correct, however the exposure and long-term gain by playing games down there will probably outweigh the short-term losses.

also, if every team is required to play these type of games (im not sure about this) then that takes the element of unfairness out

To remove all unfairness, all teams would have to play 2 of them. One as an away team and one as a home team so that every team could have a home game lost.

 

[Doboji]

I think it's a good thing. I firmly believe in spreading the american culture everywhere, by force if necessary. Football is such a nice way to do it.

:thumbsup:

-Max

 

[habib89]

it's good in that it spreads the sport of american football to fans that would not normally have exposure.. there were 100,000+ people there.. novelty or not, they got to see a real american football game (although real game could be disputed)... they saw something that was pretty exciting.. 2 real quick defensive touchdowns by SF, then an offensive romp by the cards.. the whole point of this game is to get other countries interested in american football.. wether it worked or not is a different story

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
everything you say is correct, however the exposure and long-term gain by playing games down there will probably outweigh the short-term losses.

also, if every team is required to play these type of games (im not sure about this) then that takes the element of unfairness out

At the same time, when NFL teams whine to their hometown "wahhhh, we're losing money. We need you taxpayers to build a new stadium" and the politicians argue "we're gaining a lot of revenue dollars through taxes and the money people spend when they come to town to watch the games", those same politicians are going to start having second thoughts about spending eleventy billion dollars to build a new stadium for a team that's only going to play 6 or 7 games there a year.

 

[KillyKillall]

NFL Ticket Prices:

Atlanta - $30.00 - $94.00
Arizona - $15.00 - $235.00
Baltimore - $30.00 - $315.00
Buffalo - $35.00 - $62.00
Carolina - $32.00 - $350.00
Chicago - $50 - $330.00
Cincinati - $49.00 - $68.00
Cleveland - $25.00 - $77.00
Dallas - $49.00 - $83.00
Denver - $35.00 - $362.50
Detroit - $40.00 - $70.00
Green Bay - Can someone let me know?
Houston - $35.00 - $279.00
Indianaplos - $19.00 - $164.00
Jacksonville - $35.00 - $215.00
Kansas City - $59.00 - $80.00
Miami - $25.00 - $225.00
Minnesota - $15.00 - $113.00
New England - $59.00 - $125.00
New Orleans - $15.00 - $89.00
New York Giants - $70.00 - $90.00
New York Jets - Can someone let me know?
Oakland - $47.00 - $91.00
Philadelphia - Can someone let me know?
Pittsburgh - Can someone let me know?
San Diego - $41.00 - $84.00
San Francisco - $64.00
Seattle - $23.00 - $315.00
St. Louis - $44.00 - $85.00
Tampa Bay - $35.00 - $71.00
Tennessee - $27.00 - $66.00
Washington - can someone let me know?

Barring the ones I can't seem to find the face value prices on here are some of the results:

Cheapest Ticket: $15.00 (Vikings, Cardinals, Saints)
Highest Ticket: $362.50 (Broncos)

Some of this is skewed due to club prices available for some teams and not others..I'll try to complete this over the week and get the full analysis done instead of this little wimpy one.

 

[KillyKillall]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
everything you say is correct, however the exposure and long-term gain by playing games down there will probably outweigh the short-term losses.

also, if every team is required to play these type of games (im not sure about this) then that takes the element of unfairness out

At the same time, when NFL teams whine to their hometown "wahhhh, we're losing money. We need you taxpayers to build a new stadium" and the politicians argue "we're gaining a lot of revenue dollars through taxes and the money people spend when they come to town to watch the games", those same politicians are going to start having second thoughts about spending eleventy billion dollars to build a new stadium for a team that's only going to play 6 or 7 games there a year.

Exactly..I want my Arizona state taxes back that are going to build a new stadium if they're going to play in Mexico for one of the home games. I also want my concessions and other prices of items NOT to raise in price due to the stadium losing 1 game a year (that's a lot of revenue!!!!).

Hm..the Indy fans are about to pay 400M in taxes to build a new 500M stadium..I wonder how you Indianapolis people feel about it now. Granted..the RCA dome is falling apart and only holds like 40k.

 

[MrBond]

Originally posted by: Queasy
They should have played the Falcons in Mexico....

I'll let you guess the reason why.

I was bored this morning so I hit up the NFL Shop to check out jerseys. I heard they wouldn't allow "Mexico" or "R Mexico" on personalized jerseys now, but for some reason they do allow "R.Mexico" (but R. Mexico was not allowed).

Anyway, if I had the extra $80 laying around, I'd totally get #7 Falcon's jersey with R.Mexico on the back. They'd probably cancle the order or call me to have them change it to something else, but I didn't want to risk the cash in the event they actually print the jersey and send it to me

 

[Hammer]

the cardinals have no fan support at home, they probably got more in mexico :laugh:

 

[cavemanmoron]

Originally posted by: KillyKillall
Ok...so at what point did the National Football League become the International Futbol Americano League???

The way I see it, there are a few issues with these international games they're talking about:

1) Loss of home field advantage for a team
2) The NFL is making money off this and the stadium where it would have been hosted is losing funding
3) Players may have diarrhea during the game (RUN!! RUN!!! RUN!!)
4) The NFL is using its power to market to areas who are not paying for the team (example: Wisconson tax payers own the Packers...do they get the decision if they're the game that gets sent out?)

Now we're outsourcing our NFL games..C"MON!!!! WTF?!?!?!?

Hmm how about Baseball,and Nascar in Japan?

Follow the money trail??

 

[doze]

Originally posted by: Ophir

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Yzzim
Think I heard somewhere that both Toronto and London would like to host a game in the near future.

Here's a link about London

Tagliabue joined the ESPN broadcasters and mentioned that the mayor of some other foreign city...maybe Luxembourg?, wanted a game, too.

I'm sure Japan would pay to host a game as well. The Japanese really seem to love gimmicks, especially those on an international scale.

They seem to also have a large fan base in Germany.

Japan did host a game this year preseason Colts - Falcons

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20050806_IND@ATL