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Capt Caveman

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: Rebasxer
Lol.

Brady + Maroney + Moss + Stallworth + Welker + Better veteran defense > Colts

Lol.
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The "veteran" defense means little in this case. NE's weaknesses are letting up big plays on defense (look at some of the Jag's drives) and vulnerability to a persistent running attack. In my mind, the deciding factor for Indy is their defense. They are youthful and full of energy and seem to play very well against the Pats. Brady, like all QB's, is less effective under pressure, something the Colt's bring effectively against NE. The rest of the NE's offensive squad has equivilent parallels to Indy's squad so I consider that moot.

I wouldn't put it past NE to win, but I just think Indy's got it at the right time.
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You do know that the Pats D held the Jags to only 2 FGs in the 2nd half and held them to 80 yards rushing for the entire game. And without Freeney, i don't see the Colts able to put much pressure on Brady.

With the Pats at home, Pats by 10.

Note - the Pats had more rushing yards than the Colts this season.
 
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Originally posted by: RapidSnail


The "veteran" defense means little in this case. NE's weaknesses are letting up big plays on defense (look at some of the Jag's drives) and vulnerability to a persistent running attack. In my mind, the deciding factor for Indy is their defense. They are youthful and full of energy and seem to play very well against the Pats. Brady, like all QB's, is less effective under pressure, something the Colt's bring effectively against NE. The rest of the NE's offensive squad has equivilent parallels to Indy's squad so I consider that moot.

I wouldn't put it past NE to win, but I just think Indy's got it at the right time.
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I watched the Pats O-Line hold up very well to the jags all night. That philly style pressure brady game plan that every team has been using seemed to work, but the pats have adapted.

 
SSSnail

SSSnail

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I love how every week, the thinly veiled PATs haters come up with all sort of analysis on how the PATs will be beaten, and every week so far, they're proven wrong. But, they'll come back the week after and offer up some more analysis. STFU already and quit hating.
 
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Reckoner

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Addai's been banged up for the majority of the season, and hasn't rushed for over 75 yds in a game since week 9, who knows where Harrison is at this stage, plus, if they were to win tomorrow, they're not playing in their cozy little dome. I think it'd be a 7-10 pt victory if the Colts make it through tomorrow. SD will get blown out though. Rivers sucks, and Gates is injured. LT can only do so much.
 
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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: Rebasxer
Lol.

Brady + Maroney + Moss + Stallworth + Welker + Better veteran defense > Colts

Lol.
Click to expand...

The "veteran" defense means little in this case. NE's weaknesses are letting up big plays on defense (look at some of the Jag's drives) and vulnerability to a persistent running attack. In my mind, the deciding factor for Indy is their defense. They are youthful and full of energy and seem to play very well against the Pats. Brady, like all QB's, is less effective under pressure, something the Colt's bring effectively against NE. The rest of the NE's offensive squad has equivilent parallels to Indy's squad so I consider that moot.

I wouldn't put it past NE to win, but I just think Indy's got it at the right time.
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You do know that the Pats D held the Jags to only 2 FGs in the 2nd half and held them to 80 yards rushing for the entire game. And without Freeney, i don't see the Colts able to put much pressure on Brady.

With the Pats at home, Pats by 10.

Note - the Pats had more rushing yards than the Colts this season.
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But the Jags, even without the running game, were able to penetrate pretty well into NE territory. Imagine what a much more experienced QB can do to the secondary as well as the running game. And I wasn't aware that Freeney will be missing. That could drastically change the amount of pressure the Colts line could put on Brady. Defensive pressure will be the deciding factor in this game. Mark it.

Edit: I also missed the rushing yards reference. I wasn't aware of that either. I still think Addai has been a better back the Maroney-Faulk. Although I do think Maroney has some good potential.
 
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I know Freeney is out for good and Harrison is potentially doubtful, but hypothetically speaking...how do you guys think those Colts (freeney and harrison at 100 percent) would match up against the Pats?
 
glenn1

glenn1

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This thread seems to have an inordinate amount of premature confidence that the Colts are going to knock off the Pats - IMHO the Chargers have a pretty decent shot at winning tomorrow.
 
Captante

Captante

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As far as I"m concerned the potential meeting of the Colts vs Pats next Sunday is the same type of game as the 49'ers vs Cowboys was in the early 1990's ... in other words the real Superbowl. As a true NFL fan I can't understand how you wouldn't want it to happen. (real Chargers fans get a pass)

If SD somhow manages to spoil the party (IMO far less likely then the Jags winning today was) then all thats happened is a greasing of the skids to another Championship for NE.

Having said that, I'll be back in this thread AFTER tomorrows games with predictions for next week.
 
Capt Caveman

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: glenn1
This thread seems to have an inordinate amount of premature confidence that the Colts are going to knock off the Pats - IMHO the Chargers have a pretty decent shot at winning tomorrow.
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I don't believe the Chargers have a chance against the Colts today. Unless, the Charger defense can cause turnovers and score off them, it will be a blow-out.

Without Gates, Rivers loses his best target. The Indy D can key on LT and force Rivers to beat them and Rivers won't be able to do that.
 
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ja1484

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Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: Rebasxer
Lol.

Brady + Maroney + Moss + Stallworth + Welker + Better veteran defense > Colts

Lol.
Click to expand...

The "veteran" defense means little in this case. NE's weaknesses are letting up big plays on defense (look at some of the Jag's drives) and vulnerability to a persistent running attack. In my mind, the deciding factor for Indy is their defense. They are youthful and full of energy and seem to play very well against the Pats. Brady, like all QB's, is less effective under pressure, something the Colt's bring effectively against NE. The rest of the NE's offensive squad has equivilent parallels to Indy's squad so I consider that moot.

I wouldn't put it past NE to win, but I just think Indy's got it at the right time.
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You do know that the Pats D held the Jags to only 2 FGs in the 2nd half and held them to 80 yards rushing for the entire game. And without Freeney, i don't see the Colts able to put much pressure on Brady.

With the Pats at home, Pats by 10.

Note - the Pats had more rushing yards than the Colts this season.
Click to expand...

But the Jags, even without the running game, were able to penetrate pretty well into NE territory. Imagine what a much more experienced QB can do to the secondary as well as the running game. And I wasn't aware that Freeney will be missing. That could drastically change the amount of pressure the Colts line could put on Brady. Defensive pressure will be the deciding factor in this game. Mark it.
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You didn't know Freeney was out? He's on IR for Christ sakes.

And I don't buy that "more experienced QB" line either. The only reason Jax hung with the Pats last night is because Garrard played like Peyton or Tom. The statistics were pretty clear - other than the pick, Garrard played about as perfectly as a QB can. New England just is *that good*. A perfect QB isn't enough. You need a perfect game. And even then, the odds are still 50/50.
 
sao123

sao123

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Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: Rebasxer
Lol.

Brady + Maroney + Moss + Stallworth + Welker + Better veteran defense > Colts

Lol.
Click to expand...

The "veteran" defense means little in this case. NE's weaknesses are letting up big plays on defense (look at some of the Jag's drives) and vulnerability to a persistent running attack. In my mind, the deciding factor for Indy is their defense. They are youthful and full of energy and seem to play very well against the Pats. Brady, like all QB's, is less effective under pressure, something the Colt's bring effectively against NE. The rest of the NE's offensive squad has equivilent parallels to Indy's squad so I consider that moot.

I wouldn't put it past NE to win, but I just think Indy's got it at the right time.
Click to expand...

You do know that the Pats D held the Jags to only 2 FGs in the 2nd half and held them to 80 yards rushing for the entire game. And without Freeney, i don't see the Colts able to put much pressure on Brady.

With the Pats at home, Pats by 10.

Note - the Pats had more rushing yards than the Colts this season.
Click to expand...

But the Jags, even without the running game, were able to penetrate pretty well into NE territory. Imagine what a much more experienced QB can do to the secondary as well as the running game. And I wasn't aware that Freeney will be missing. That could drastically change the amount of pressure the Colts line could put on Brady. Defensive pressure will be the deciding factor in this game. Mark it.
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You didn't know Freeney was out? He's on IR for Christ sakes.

And I don't buy that "more experienced QB" line either. The only reason Jax hung with the Pats last night is because Garrard played like Peyton or Tom. The statistics were pretty clear - other than the pick, Garrard played about as perfectly as a QB can. New England just is *that good*. A perfect QB isn't enough. You need a perfect game. And even then, the odds are still 50/50.
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This just in... The Indianapolis Colts have signed Chuck Norris to a 2 game contract. He will be starting for the injured defensive end Dwight Freeney.

Fear for your life Brady...

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
Captante

Captante

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I have to say that based on watching this game today, I think I seriously over-estimated how good the Colts are & I no longer think either one of these teams has much chance next week in Foxboro.
 
IAteYourMother

IAteYourMother

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Originally posted by: Captante
I have to say that based on watching this game today, I think I seriously over-estimated how good the Colts are & I no longer think either one of these teams has much chance next week in Foxboro.
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I agree, Pats go 19-0
 
Captante

Captante

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The Chargers are doing pretty much what I was expecting on both sides of the ball, but the Colts defense is being exposed as slow, small & weak ... the Colts defensive line is doing ok, but theres very little to no pass rush & the Chargers are running rough-shod over the secondary.
 
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