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Who will win Super Bowl 60?

  • Eagles +650

    Votes: 5 18.5%
  • Ravens +700

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • Chiefs +700

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • Bills +750

    Votes: 7 25.9%
  • Lions +1000

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • 49ers +1500

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • Commanders +1800

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • Bengals +1800

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rams +2100

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 22.2%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .

pete6032

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Caleb looked like a bust his first season but he's certainly getting better
 

purbeast0

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He's still wildly inaccurate and then got lucky as shit closing his eyes and throwing up a prayer lol.

The 2 passes before that fluke TD were terribly innacurate.
 
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pete6032

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He's still wildly inaccurate and then got lucky as shit closing his eyes and throwing up a prayer lol.

The 2 passes before that fluke TD were terribly innacurate.
I agree. He's getting better but still needs amother season to progress. Just threw an awful awful interception there.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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I don't see how the Rams can get passed the Seahawks they just looked so dominant last night.

And the Patriots have a god damn cakewalk to the Super Bowl now that Nix is out.

EDIT:

Actually, if Darnold gonna Darnold, Rams definitely can win lol.
 

manly

Lifer
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I don't see how the Rams can get passed the Seahawks they just looked so dominant last night.

And the Patriots have a god damn cakewalk to the Super Bowl now that Nix is out.

EDIT:

Actually, if Darnold gonna Darnold, Rams definitely can win lol.
Not that betting odds are predictive, but they're a bit weird to me. For one, the wild card Rams entered the playoffs with short odds and that hasn't changed. Despite them having to go to Lumen Field next week and playing a ferocious defense that just annihilated the 49ers, the Rams are only 2.5 point dogs. (If you removed home field advantage, bettors consider the Rams and Seahawks a coin flip!)

Current SB champ odds:
Seahawks +150
Rams +220
Patriots +250
Broncos +1300

The other weirdness is that Sam Darnold has the shortest SB MVP odds. :)
Darnold +250
Stafford +300
Drake Maye +300
...
Jarrett Stidham +2000 🤣
 
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DAPUNISHER

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Cooper Kupp bringing the magic home. Rams are not going to enjoy the opposing fans chanting Coooooooop! when he torches them.
 

NuclearNed

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May 18, 2001
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Bears should have gone for 2. It was a tossup game, and in that moment after the miracle catch they had all the momentum.
 

MrSquished

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Obviously this is Patrick Mahomes' fault.
I think that partnership ran its course. Maybe they'll bring Daboll back for OC after they get a new head coach. The two top HC experienced candidates are gone now - Harbaugh and Stefanski. But they can find a coordinator that can blossom.
 

manly

Lifer
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In a large way, it is lol.

Still kinda crazy considering his 66% win rate. Although I kind of understand the firing (never meeting lofty expectations*), a lot of people had insisted that Bills ownership would not do McDermott like this. Turns out they are no different from other NFL owners. :p

The other crazy bit is Kevin Stefanski getting insta-hired for Falcons HC. Sure, he won two COY awards with Cleveland. He also sports a 44% win rate, although to be fair, he's not the idiot who traded for the corpse of Deshaun Watson.

* Doubt it had much to do with the firing, but McDermott complaining about the refs after the painful loss is not a good look.
 

MrSquished

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We need Harbaugh to get the Giants back into form so we can make sure shit like this doesn't happen again.

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manly

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Bears should have gone for 2. It was a tossup game, and in that moment after the miracle catch they had all the momentum.
I was thinking about that right after the miracle TD toss. It would have been as bold/gambly a move as we've seen in the modern NFL (despite the rash of 4th down attempts, sometimes questionable ones at that). Not that it doesn't make sense, but failure on a 2pt try would fall heavily upon the HC.

The math of XP vs 2pt conversion is roughly break-even, but it's still interesting. 2pt attempts are converted at approx. only 48%, BUT strangely this is because pass attempts do a lot worse than rushing attempts. Rushing plays are over 55% successful here, which may not sound like much but is a slam dunk statistically.

Tactically, there are different concerns traditionally. Usually, if you're facing a superior team (which they were), you should go for 2 and try to steal the win. OTOH I believe there's a school of thought that on the road, you go for it (because the environment is so hostile). At home, you can play it a little safer.

Sample sizes for the regular season are probably small, but if the Bears are better than 50% at converting 4th-and-2, I would have gone for it. But it's easy to say that after seeing how the game ended.
 
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