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Who will win Super Bowl 60?

  • Eagles +650

    Votes: 5 18.5%

  • Ravens +700

    Votes: 2 7.4%

  • Chiefs +700

    Votes: 1 3.7%

  • Bills +750

    Votes: 7 25.9%

  • Lions +1000

    Votes: 2 7.4%

  • 49ers +1500

    Votes: 2 7.4%

  • Commanders +1800

    Votes: 2 7.4%

  • Bengals +1800

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Rams +2100

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 6 22.2%
  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
pete6032

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Interesting that the odds for the Bills and Eagles winning has actually gone down since the beginning of the season. Eagles were +650 to begin, now +1000. Bills were +750 now +1000.

On the other end, Rams went from +2100 to +550, 49ers from +1500 to +850.

I do not gamble. My original vote at the beginning of the season was for the Ravens, which obviously didn't pan out. Right now I think the Rams do have a very good shot at winning the Super Bowl.
 
dank69

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manly said:
After Matt Stafford's very rough MNF performance, Drake Maye is now the clear cut MVP favorite. Sleepness nights for zinfamous. :p

Maye -400
Stafford +300


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NFL MVP Odds: Drake Maye Becomes Massive Favorite After Matthew Stafford Struggles on Monday Night Football

The NFL MVP race was tight heading into the final game of the Week 17 slate, but Matthew Stafford had a comfortable lead over Drake Maye at -225 at DraftKings,
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If Niners manage to beat the Seachickens this week CMC should be the MVP. He won't be, but he should be.
 
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manly

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Mike Vrabel has his team dialed in.

www.espn.com

Pats' Barmore facing assault and battery charge

Patriots defensive tackle Christian Barmore is facing a misdemeanor charge of assault and battery on a household/family member stemming from an August incident, according to court documents.
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pete6032 said:
Interesting that the odds for the Bills and Eagles winning has actually gone down since the beginning of the season. Eagles were +650 to begin, now +1000. Bills were +750 now +1000.

On the other end, Rams went from +2100 to +550, 49ers from +1500 to +850.

I do not gamble. My original vote at the beginning of the season was for the Ravens, which obviously didn't pan out. Right now I think the Rams do have a very good shot at winning the Super Bowl.
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Parity has been the norm in the NFL for a while now, but this season is incredibly wide open and weird.*
12 days ago, the Rams were the clear favorites. Honestly, right now they are a bad bet at +550. They will be either the 5th or 6th seed in the NFC, and will have to run the table on the road. I don't understand why their odds are still this high after the last 6 quarters (and 2 unexpected losses).** The best argument you can make is that the Rams will be a better team once they get back Davante Adams from injury. They're certainly capable of running the table, but that's always harder than hosting 2 home games after a bye.***

I'd left the Ravens for dead multiple times this season, but they are just one win away from sneaking into the playoffs.

* Who had Drake Maye as NFL MVP, or (potentially) the Broncos or Seahawks as the #1 seed?

** A strange side effect of the Rams loss to the Falcons is that the Bucs no longer control their own destiny in the NFC South. If the Falcons win, the Panthers (win or lose) will be the division champs on tiebreakers.

*** Whoever secures the #1 seed in the NFC should have the shortest SB odds. The AFC is totally wide open, and it's anybody's guess who will emerge.


dank69 said:
If Niners manage to beat the Seachickens this week CMC should be the MVP. He won't be, but he should be.
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Avg'ing 3.9 yds/rush. Wanna try again?
 
KLin

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it's a bad day for the Diggs family, Trevon Diggs was released by the cowboys this morning

www.espn.com

Cowboys release two-time Pro Bowl CB Diggs

The Cowboys have released cornerback Trevon Diggs. He will become a free agent if he goes unclaimed on waivers.
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www.espn.com

Source: Packers get secondary help, claim Diggs

The Packers have claimed veteran cornerback Trevon Diggs, a day after he was waived by the Cowboys, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.
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First Micah, now Trevon joining from the Cowboys!
 
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manly

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dank69 said:
Over 2000 yards from scrimmage. The Niners would be a sub .500 team without him this season, yet they could be #1 seed with a win.
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Yes, he has a very strong argument to be an MVP award finalist. Unfortunately, we all know the award has basically devolved into the Best QB on one of the few best teams award. Unless he lays an egg in the season finale, 2nd year pro Drake Maye is going to win. 🤯

As for RBs who deserved MVP consideration, I believe a stronger case could be made for CMC in 2023 or Saquon Barkley a year ago.
Again, averaging 3.9 yards per carry doesn't seem like a sure-fire league-wide MVP. (I realize roughly half his value is as a receiver.)

Even if a QB almost always wins AP MVP, it would still be nice to see a non-QB win it at least once every dozen years. Unfortunately as pass happy as the NFL has become, it would take a very extreme set of circumstances for any non-QB to win.
 
MrSquished

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Let's watch the Giants fuck up getting the 2nd pick in the draft tomorrow. And sounds like Mara is keeping Joe Schoen as GM. Mara fucking sucks as an owner and he and his kid need to get the fuck out of running anything.
 
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manly

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KLin said:
Niners are playing tonight, so yea I'm gonna pass on this deal.
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Seahawks -2.5 on the road 🤔 (Understandable, but seems a little disrespectful to the 12-4 49ers.)

Wow, both teams are riding a 6 game winning streak.
 
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Even ESPN is giving the Seahawks a slight edge. Everyone thinks the Niners defensive injuries are going to end them apparently. We shall see.

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manly

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KLin said:
Even ESPN is giving the Seahawks a slight edge. Everyone thinks the Niners defensive injuries are going to end them apparently. We shall see.
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51/49 is reasonable because on paper, the Seahawks are the best team in the NFL. Of course, the games aren't played on paper. ;)
 
JujuFish

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The Seahawks might have the best defense in the league. The 49ers can't say the same.
 
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Trent Williams didn't practice this week. He's no doubt out. Damnit.
 
MrSquished

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Will Darnold choke like last year? I'm rooting for him to have a good game and put that behind him.
 
Chaotic42

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Announcers are unhappy with the refs in this Panthers/Bucs game. I haven't watch much football this year, but the officiating hasn't been stellar.
 
dank69

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KLin said:
Trent Williams didn't practice this week. He's no doubt out. Damnit.
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Pleasant did fine in his place. The front 3 are finally gelling at the right time. The Seattle D is one of the best in the league no doubt but Purdy and the Niners offense is peaking at the right time.

The Niners defense was just good enough to limit a Chicago offense that is much better than the Seattle offense. Darnold is good if the first read is there but struggles when it isn't there. Hopefully Saleh can take advantage of that.

Barring a significant loss in the turnover battle I think the Niners score over 30 while holding Seattle to less than 30. Maybe less than 20 but that might be pushing it.
 
KLin

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Three and out, then give them the ball on the niner 35 after a 15 yard facemask on the kick .FFS
 
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