Next generation HD-DVD format wars over before they began?

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6262261.html

In a stunning announcement Sunday morning, Paramount Home Entertainment has decided to support Sony's Blu-ray Disc format for the next-generation of high-definition DVDs.

Although Paramount will continue to support Sony's rival, the HD DVD platform from Toshiba, the studio is the first to end its singular commitment to one format, which both sides had hoped would give the industry its best chance of avoiding a Betamax/VHS-like format war.

With Warner and Universal expected to follow suit very shortly, Paramount's decision potentially throws the decision once again into the hands of consumers and retailers next year. Both formats are expected to be introduced next spring.

Ouch. I guess Microsoft and Intel's strong words flopped.
 

Cooler

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Not again 2 formats . This can only bring problems. They should have just gone with Blu-Ray because it can store more.
 

Wag

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Whichever one doesn't make me buy a new HDTV will be OK by me.
 

FeuerFrei

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Between Blu-ray and Windows Vista there'll be a lot of hardware upgrades going on. + the switch to digital tv broadcasts
 

mwmorph

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bah both are championed by the 2 worst corporations you could hope to champion a media format
(M$ and Sony will cut up your rights as a consumer and rape you repeatedly like you wouldnt believe it, mark my words.)
it's so sad, that this rights rape is becoming the norm now thanks ot some major POS corporatinos liek these.

after i find out I cant play HDDVD or Bluray thanks to DRM not supporting Composite connections(the only type on my older HDTV), what next?
 

Cooler

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This type crap form vista just makes me sick. I am just going to get Blu-Ray reader for my XP comp.
 

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It looks like it's up to the consumers to choose the winner here, since many movie studios are going to be non exclusive. The title of the thread is very misleading, it's sound as if the format war has ended, instead of a major studio announced that it will support both formats.
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: Cooler
This type crap form vista just makes me sick. I am just going to get Blu-Ray reader for my XP comp.

sony has come out with it's own set of crappy drm stuff too so if you go blu ray, you might have to put up with windows vista DRM AND Blu Ray DRM.
 

Cooler

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not if i get one of the older models that have been out for a year. But you may be right.
 

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Originally posted by: Pocatello
It looks like it's up to the consumers to choose the winner here, since many movie studios are going to be non exclusive. The title of the thread is very misleading, it's sound as if the format war has ended, instead of a major studio announced that it will support both formats.
If anything, this news release means the format war is heating up.
 

Shawn

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Glad I'm sticking to my standard cheap coax analog walmart brand tv set. :p
 

DaveSimmons

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It's a blow to both intel/MS and HD-DVD even if not a Fatality! by blu-ray.

it's so sad, that this rights rape is becoming the norm now thanks ot some major POS corporatinos liek these.
but probably necessary given how many people (including in this forum) "burn and return" DVD rentals, download commercials-deleted TV torrents, and steal music.
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
It's a blow to both intel/MS and HD-DVD even if not a Fatality! by blu-ray.

it's so sad, that this rights rape is becoming the norm now thanks ot some major POS corporatinos liek these.
but probably necessary given how many people (including in this forum) "burn and return" DVD rentals, download commercials-deleted TV torrents, and steal music.

People who want to pirate will always find ways to pirate. It'll only cause problems for the average consumer.
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Shawn
Glad I'm sticking to my standard cheap coax analog walmart brand tv set. :p

:thumbsdown::p

:p

This 25" TV only cost me $119 4 years ago. Though it doesn't even have RCA inputs. Gotta use an RF modulator. :Q
 

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Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
It's a blow to both intel/MS and HD-DVD even if not a Fatality! by blu-ray.

it's so sad, that this rights rape is becoming the norm now thanks ot some major POS corporatinos liek these.
but probably necessary given how many people (including in this forum) "burn and return" DVD rentals, download commercials-deleted TV torrents, and steal music.

People who want to pirate will always find ways to pirate. It'll only cause problems for the average consumer.

Bingo. :thumbsup:

Although all this DRM stuff will never affect me because I've never pirated anything. (Really)

I want Blu-Ray to win for the sheer storage capacity. HD movies, entire series on very few discs is a huge plus to me.
 
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Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Shawn
Glad I'm sticking to my standard cheap coax analog walmart brand tv set. :p

:thumbsdown::p

:p

This 25" TV only cost me $119 4 years ago. Though it doesn't even have RCA inputs. Gotta use an RF modulator. :Q

So that should allow you to have been saving up for a nice HDTV set (or HDTV tuner) for a while now ;)
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
It's a blow to both intel/MS and HD-DVD even if not a Fatality! by blu-ray.

it's so sad, that this rights rape is becoming the norm now thanks ot some major POS corporatinos liek these.
but probably necessary given how many people (including in this forum) "burn and return" DVD rentals, download commercials-deleted TV torrents, and steal music.

People who want to pirate will always find ways to pirate. It'll only cause problems for the average consumer.
Eventually copying will get easy again, but in the short term the stronger copy protection will work against almost all of the people who copy DVDs now.

I don't like DRM, and it does hurt honest users, but it makes good business sense.
 

Cooler

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I agree DMA is Bad for everyone. Whats even worse is the laws used to stop users form messing with it.
 

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if they charge too much or the copy protection is too strong hddvd will win. chinese pirate factories pumping out hddvd copies for the win:)