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Next door neighbor's house broken into - ATOT gun nuts enter here

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pa castle doctrine went into effect last saturday

House Bill 40, sponsored by State Representative Scott Perry (R-92), would permit law-abiding citizens to use force, including deadly force, against an attacker in their homes and any places outside of their home where they have a legal right to be. It is clearly stated that there would be no “duty to retreat” from an attacker, allowing law-abiding citizens to stand their ground to protect themselves and their family. HB40 would also protect individuals from civil lawsuits by the attacker or the attacker’s family when force is used.
 
Ain't readin 5 pages.

Bear Mace, youtube it.

Big dogs kept my folks break-in free for the last 10 years their hood turned into the hood. Pop had guns, too but outsiders wouldn't know.
 
Only read the first page. Love the bad information that is spread. Get a basic (rifle stock) 12ga if you don't have to worry about picking up kids in one hand and holding the gun in the other. If there is a need for that, a basic 9mm will do.

The taurus judge is retarded. Don't bother.

If you load up the 12ga, get federal flite control 00 buckshot. It has less recoil than the standard 1, and 4 shot rounds you can find. Also, at typical home defense distances, it will not spread out to the size of the moon to hit any and anything you are remotely aiming at. It will likely be the size of an orange or grapefruit.

Anything you use to defend your life (and stop a threat) should penetrate 12 inches of ballistic gelatin. That means it WILL go through walls. Solution? Hit the bad guy. That means get training.

If you're shooting something, make damn sure you can see it. That means a nice flashlight you can rely on. Something with a pressure sensor that goes on and off without you needing to click is best. I recommend a light attached to your weapon IN ADDITION to a hand held flashlight.

Keep the weapon loaded. I can understand leaving an empty chamber if you don't want to unintentionally shoot it if woken in the middle of the night but don't leave an empty chamber so that you can somehow put the fear of god into someone.

P.S. Pistol grips on shotguns look cool and "tactical" opinions aside, are completely useless if a shotgun as a safety at the top (ala mossbergs) since they require you to release your grip on the weapon to turn the safety on or off.
 
KB said:
How about a shotgun like pistol? The taurus judge can shoot .45 plus .410 shotshells - that mean buckshot and slugs. I like shotguns because they spray (making hitting the target easier) and are less likely to penetrate walls. I like revolvers because they are simple to handle and don't require pumping or magazines. Its biggest drawback is it only handles 5 rounds.

http://www.taurususa.com/video-theJudge.cfm
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I remember my dad tried to buy one a year or two ago for home defense.. Unfortunately they weren't for sale in California then. I haven't checked since then, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're still banned.
 
Good old fashion 870 pump with buckshot gets my vote. A handgun takes a lot more skill to use, especially under stress. A shotgun is able to make hit shots with less precision from the user but contrary to popular belief still needs to be aimed correctly. It also has a lot less over penetration issues. A shotgun is a far superior option to a handgun in 99% HD scenarios.
 
I don't know if it's been recommended but if recoil is an issue don't underestimate a 20 ga.a lot of deer have been taken with a 20
 
OP - no matter what you do, go get some classes and understand your states laws. Should you need to defend your property this is much more important than what weapon you have.

Oh, and you need to have a firearm on every floor. What good is a gun hidden upstairs in the bedroom if it takes you 15 seconds to go get it and get it ready to fire? Now if you've got little ones around, ignore that.

Play this scenario out - somebody rings your doorbell, you come to the door and open it and they barge in while their buddies are busting in through the basement. Are you going to be able to go to the bedroom and say "wait, let me go get my firearm!" You need to have a plan and your wife involved in said plan.
 
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