NEWSFLASH: Senator Hillary Clinton uses the word 'diss' for only the second time ever.

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Now Clinton jumps on the violent videogames bandwagon

New York senator and former first lady Hillary Clinton has launched an attack on violent videogames, singling out Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto titles as a "major threat" to morality.

Clinton, who is reportedly planning to seek the Democratic presidential nomination for the 2008 election, has aligned herself with hardline right-wing Republican senators in order to pressure Congress into researching the impact of electronic media on children.

"Children are playing a game that encourages them to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them," she said in a statement on the issue. "This is a silent epidemic of media desensitisation that teaches kids it's OK to diss people because they are a woman, they're a different colour or they're from a different place."

She wants a $90 million investigation to be launched into the impact of games and other electronic media on the "cognitive, social, emotional and physical development" of children, according to a Sunday Times report.

Politicians really don't like Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto. You have to wonder how little they think of the citizens they supposedly represent. Are we really so stupid that we translate beating on a videogame prostitute into real life?

Hey, maybe after I have sex with a hooker fo' realz, I'll beat her unconcious with a bat. I assume money will then magically appear from her body which I can collect. And then when the cops come after me, I'll hightail it for a car respraying shop and they'll forget all about me. Life, videogames, who can tell the difference anymore.

 

[conjur]

More proof that Hillary isn't as liberal as she's thought to be.

Just more attempts at imposing a nanny-state.

 

[Starbuck1975]

More proof that Hillary isn't as liberal as she's thought to be. Just more attempts at imposing a nanny-state.

Liberals are perfectly capable of imposing forms of censorship...Republicans and Democrats seek to impose a nanny-state for different reasons...Republicans do it in the name of Jesus...Democrats do it in the name of saving people, or in this case children, from themselves.

Our compact discs have warning labels on them because of the Democrats...don't fool yourself into thinking that Republicans are the only thought police in this nation.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

More proof that Hillary isn't as liberal as she's thought to be. Just more attempts at imposing a nanny-state.

Liberals are perfectly capable of imposing forms of censorship...Republicans and Democrats seek to impose a nanny-state for different reasons...Republicans do it in the name of Jesus...Democrats do it in the name of saving people, or in this case children, from themselves.

Our compact discs have warning labels on them because of the Democrats...don't fool yourself into thinking that Republicans are the only thought police in this nation.

i thougth the game censorship thign was a liberal idea?

 

[Sunbird]

I alledge murder, racism and sexism encourage video games!!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

More proof that Hillary isn't as liberal as she's thought to be. Just more attempts at imposing a nanny-state.

Liberals are perfectly capable of imposing forms of censorship...Republicans and Democrats seek to impose a nanny-state for different reasons...Republicans do it in the name of Jesus...Democrats do it in the name of saving people, or in this case children, from themselves.

Our compact discs have warning labels on them because of the Democrats...don't fool yourself into thinking that Republicans are the only thought police in this nation.

I'm well aware of Tipper Gore's influence but this is Hillary pandering to the right in preparation for an apparent '08 bid (help us all if she does and wins). Who's all up in arms about Janet Jackson's tit or Howard Stern's program? It's not the left.

 

[MCWAR]

I remember when I was young I couldnt buy OZZY in walmart stores. Why? Because of a liberal named Tipper Gore. Suicide solution baby! Ozzy Rocks!

 

[Starbuck1975]

I'm well aware of Tipper Gore's influence but this is Hillary pandering to the right in preparation for an apparent '08 bid (help us all if she does and wins). Who's all up in arms about Janet Jackson's tit or Howard Stern's program? It's not the left.

If she was a true dyed in wool liberal with strong convictions and a compelling message and agenda, she wouldn't have to pander to the right...it's about control...whatever happened to parents guiding and protecting their own children.

However, I think her motivations extend far beyond pandering to the right in preparation for a possible 2008 Presidential bid.

Yes the right wing is all up in arms about Janet's wardrobe malfunction and Howard Stern...more of an indication that, as usual, attempting to understand the motivations behind why politicians choose to champion certain causes is an exercise in futility.

 

[Pepsei]

should virtual child porn be protected too? seems pretty popular in Japan... does it cause real crime on kids?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

I'm well aware of Tipper Gore's influence but this is Hillary pandering to the right in preparation for an apparent '08 bid (help us all if she does and wins). Who's all up in arms about Janet Jackson's tit or Howard Stern's program? It's not the left.

If she was a true dyed in wool liberal with strong convictions and a compelling message and agenda, she wouldn't have to pander to the right

That's my point. She's not.

whatever happened to parents guiding and protecting their own children.

I have the same question, myself. Many answers to that but it boils down to Americans have become spoiled and lazy.

Yes the right wing is all up in arms about Janet's wardrobe malfunction and Howard Stern...more of an indication that, as usual, attempting to understand the motivations behind why politicians choose to champion certain causes is an exercise in futility.

It's simple. The radical right is seen as an effective and populous voting base. Makes sense to pander to those who will vote for you and give you campaign money.

 

[smc13]

Originally posted by: conjur
More proof that Hillary isn't as liberal as she's thought to be.

Just more attempts at imposing a nanny-state.

More proof that Hillary is running for President in '08

 

[Starbuck1975]

It's simple. The radical right is seen as an effective and populous voting base. Makes sense to pander to those who will vote for you and give you campaign money.

I can't see the religious right or radical right supporting Hillary, regardless of which of their causes she chooses to champion...given that her husband was and continues to be an object of hatred for the religious right, I can't see their ever supporting them.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: smc13

Originally posted by: conjur
More proof that Hillary isn't as liberal as she's thought to be.

Just more attempts at imposing a nanny-state.

More proof that Hillary is running for President in '08

Hmmmm, more proof the Right is scared of her too

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

It's simple. The radical right is seen as an effective and populous voting base. Makes sense to pander to those who will vote for you and give you campaign money.

I can't see the religious right or radical right supporting Hillary, regardless of which of their causes she chooses to champion...given that her husband was and continues to be an object of hatred for the religious right, I can't see their ever supporting them.

Don't "misunderestimate" her.

I'm not.

 

[smc13]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: smc13

Originally posted by: conjur
More proof that Hillary isn't as liberal as she's thought to be.

Just more attempts at imposing a nanny-state.

More proof that Hillary is running for President in '08

Hmmmm, more proof the Right is scared of her too

I am not right wing (at least I view myself as a moderate ) and I am not afraid of Hillary. I think she would be a better President then her Husband. her comments seem to be geared to make her appeal to parents and my guess is that the reason for her comments is because she is gearing up for a run in '08. Do you disagree?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: smc13

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: smc13

Originally posted by: conjur
More proof that Hillary isn't as liberal as she's thought to be.

Just more attempts at imposing a nanny-state.

More proof that Hillary is running for President in '08

Hmmmm, more proof the Right is scared of her too

I am not right wing (at least I view myself as a moderate ) and I am not afraid of Hillary. I think she would be a better President then her Husband. her comments seem to be geared to make her appeal to parents and my guess is that the reason for her comments is because she is gearing up for a run in '08.

Do you disagree?

I would fully expect her to run.

I don't see anything stopping her from running.

Winning against the Fundies and all the men in America that hate her is another matter.

 

[RabidMongoose]

She wants a $90 million investigation to be launched into the impact of games and other electronic media on the "cognitive, social, emotional and physical development" of children, according to a Sunday Times report.

What a waste of $90 million.

 

[jackschmittusa]

She is not presidential material. I think the Democrats would be hard pressed to find a candidate that would be more likely to insure defeat in 08.

How did she come up with the $90m figure? I'd be happy to give her a discount if she will assign the project to me.

 

[joshw10]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

She wants a $90 million investigation to be launched into the impact of games and other electronic media on the "cognitive, social, emotional and physical development" of children, according to a Sunday Times report.

What a waste of $90 million.

Yeah, multiply that by 2222 and we can afford to invade another country

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Sunbird
I alledge murder, racism and sexism encourage video games!!

LOL :thumbsup:

"Children are playing a game that encourages them to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them," she said in a statement on the issue.

Aw comon, are CHILDREN really playing GTA?

Don't think so :thumbsdown:

 

[smc13]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Sunbird
I alledge murder, racism and sexism encourage video games!!

LOL :thumbsup:

"Children are playing a game that encourages them to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them," she said in a statement on the issue.

Aw comon, are CHILDREN really playing GTA?

Don't think so :thumbsdown:

Don't know. How old are you? ;-)

 

[superkdogg]

This is gonna go over like a fart in church, but...

She's right. I am not even addressing this from a personal standpoint, but statistically. Numerous studies have shown that the principle she's talking about is verifiable.

I tried to write a paper in college expressing the opposite, but every study that I found backed her position, so I had to change topics.

Please don't kill the messenger unless you're willing to back it up w/facts. Even then, please don't.

 

[HeaterCore]

No one will kill the messenger. If the studies are real, and verifiable, then there's reason to believe that violent games do desensitize children to violence. But that's moot. The real question is where the nexus of control is. I leave it to the parents and the families, rather than the government.

And this sort of content regulation is nonpartisan. The Democratic governor of Illinois is pushing a bill to criminalize selling or renting violent games to anyone under 18; and a group of GOPers in Congress, including Senator Ted Stevens, want to expand the FCC's "decency" mandate to cover cable and satellite broadcasts.

There a lot of people out there who know what you and I should be doing with our time, and they're not afraid to legislate it.

-HC-

 

[jackschmittusa]

superkdogg

Well ,since you've researched this, why isn't Japan filled with serial killers? They are far larger consumers of violent games and video per capita than the U.S.. If there really was a direct link, I would think it would be obvious there.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: smc13

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Sunbird
I alledge murder, racism and sexism encourage video games!!

LOL :thumbsup:

"Children are playing a game that encourages them to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them," she said in a statement on the issue.

Aw comon, are CHILDREN really playing GTA?

Don't think so :thumbsdown:

Don't know. How old are you? ;-)

Me? I'm an adult "child" in my 40's

If she said "teenagers" or "young adults" were playing this game, I wouldn't be so quick to disagree. Of course, her remarks would lack the intended impact if used "young adults" instead of "children".

I've got an 8 yr old son who is an avid gamer. Neither he, nor any of his friends even know what GTA is. They generally prefer WC3, AOE and Starcraft etc.

No doubt someone somewhere who could be considered a "child" is playing his brothers game of GTA. But I feel such occurences are too rare to warrant Congressional action.