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News: RAID0 TRIM official with latest RST driver

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So when is Windows 8 official release? I thought Windows 8 was meant for tablets and notebooks of such.

I like my Window 7 🙂
 
npaladin-2000 said:
We were. Firmware was released today. Unless you digging on OCZ which is just immature and silly.

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Why? Have you had one fail? I have had the same Vertex fail and have to be flashed two separate times. I've not had to touch my Intel G2, my Intel 320, my Kingston, or my Corsair SSD's. Regardless, I'm not the only one. Statistics show that OCZ is generally an inferior SSD (in terms of quality, YMMV).

Oh, and for what it's worth, I do agree that I would rather have one larger drive than two smaller drives in RAID 0. For the speed advantage of RAID 0, seems there are too many other 'potential' pitfalls. JMO.
 
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Engineer said:
Why? Have you had one fail? I have had the same Vertex fail and have to be flashed two separate times. I've not had to touch my Intel G2, my Intel 320, my Kingston, or my Corsair SSD's. Regardless, I'm not the only one. Statistics show that OCZ is generally an inferior SSD (in terms of quality, YMMV).

Oh, and for what it's worth, I do agree that I would rather have one larger drive than two smaller drives in RAID 0. For the speed advantage of RAID 0, seems there are too many other 'potential' pitfalls. JMO.
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My experience with OCZ has been flawless, so apparently your mileage may GREATLY vary.

Granted I never went near any of OCZ's SandForce-based drives, but SandForce controllers have been far from flawless across several manufacturers, not just OCZ. But I also hear that large numbers of people have had flawless experiences with those as well. Which means in a statistical sense, overall, they've done well enough to maintain enough of a quality rep to be able to continue to sell their products. Both OCZ and SandForce.
 
are these drivers good for a single ssd drive? And what is this OROM, how is it installed? I am currently using the msahci drivers. Will the iastor give me any benefits?
 
npaladin-2000 said:
My experience with OCZ has been flawless, so apparently your mileage may GREATLY vary.

Granted I never went near any of OCZ's SandForce-based drives, but SandForce controllers have been far from flawless across several manufacturers, not just OCZ. But I also hear that large numbers of people have had flawless experiences with those as well. Which means in a statistical sense, overall, they've done well enough to maintain enough of a quality rep to be able to continue to sell their products. Both OCZ and SandForce.
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and old saying "Price sells cars" comes to mind. 😉
 
ORoms are generally released by motherboard manufacturers. I would not count on a third party flashing scheme to take care of upgrading the ORom.
 
you guys are a bunch of old ladies. of course you can safely update your own orom, and the ocz v4 are fantastic drives. thank you garik for the op. i'm on the hunt for the e series 3.2 driver/orom package, atm. anyone have a sighting? new win8 pre release on the horizon...
 
I've heard and read many OCZ Vertex 4 are great SSDs. I've also a lot of reviews from end user have a lot of issues with Vertex 3, especially Agility series. Any who's, if Vertex 4 came to 199.99 for 256....i buy it!
 
npaladin-2000 said:
My experience with OCZ has been flawless, so apparently your mileage may GREATLY vary.

Granted I never went near any of OCZ's SandForce-based drives, but SandForce controllers have been far from flawless across several manufacturers, not just OCZ. But I also hear that large numbers of people have had flawless experiences with those as well. Which means in a statistical sense, overall, they've done well enough to maintain enough of a quality rep to be able to continue to sell their products. Both OCZ and SandForce.
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Statistically speaking, the data that I have seen says that an OCZ drive is roughly twice as likely to fail as other ssd's. Does that mean that you couldn't use one for 20 years and have zero issues? Of course not, it just means that you are more likely to have a problem with one. And with speed, especially in non-RAID ssd's, so similar across the board, reliability is generally extremely important to discerning ssd buyers. If you want to be non-discerning and beta test the latest and greatest from OCZ, then knock yourself out.
 
Since I currently only have 2 Hitachi 7K3000 2TB HDDs with no SSD yet (yeah, I know) I gave these updated RST drivers a try. Like it was mentioned earlier, it made them appear as a SCSI in Windows Device Manager. What's interesting is that (1) the benchmark speed using Chrystal Disk Mark and ATTO showed almost 10MB/sec faster reads & writes (drives are not in a RAID). And also (2) that when going into the Intel RST program or Chrystal Disk Info, it would not detect the drives and therefore not show their SMART info. So because of that, I revered back to the RST drivers that came out a few months ago so that it system could properly read the SMART info.
 
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RAID0 is for performance nuts, but SSDs are so fast I don't see how RAID0 is going to make things noticeably faster. After a certain amount of "fast" you see diminishing returns. After all, how much faster than "almost instantly" can you get?

The important part is going to be to get TRIM going in the actual RAID levels, the ones that provide redundancy. That's why people generally go RAID, for redundancy. Especially the ones worried about some ghostly "higher failure rate" of SSDs. RAID0, as was mentioned, was the "easy one."

It probably would be better for the controller to generate the TRIM commands, but no one's working on that either.
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Well not only do you get better performance, but double the capacity.

You can now get 2 240GB Intel 520 drives for significantly less than a single 480GB one and have better performance. One of the main barriers to SSD adoption is the price, particularly when you start going up in capacity. This will be a huge benefit.
 
I have plans for two Chronos Deluxe 240GB in RAID0 in my upcoming Shuttle SX79R5 box.

This makes me happy 😀
 
2is said:
Well not only do you get better performance, but double the capacity.

You can now get 2 240GB Intel 520 drives for significantly less than a single 480GB one and have better performance. One of the main barriers to SSD adoption is the price, particularly when you start going up in capacity. This will be a huge benefit.
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You can get two SSDs and NOT put them in RAID0 and still get double the capacity. The question is if the RAID0 performance will be noticeable. Somehow I don't think my disk operations moving from 2 seconds to 1 second will be very noticeable.

I know people think SSDs are risky, but why INCREASE the risk by putting them in RAID0?
 
npaladin-2000 said:
You can get two SSDs and NOT put them in RAID0 and still get double the capacity. The question is if the RAID0 performance will be noticeable. Somehow I don't think my disk operations moving from 2 seconds to 1 second will be very noticeable.

I know people think SSDs are risky, but why INCREASE the risk by putting them in RAID0?
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If you have quality ssd's then there is little need to fear in RAID 0. If your info is that mission critical then you should have the entire drive contents backed up in 3 separate locations regardless of RAID status. And the speed difference is huge if you're coming from an ssd. If you haven't used an ssd before then it won't be a big of a deal to you, however.

exdeath said:
I have plans for two Chronos Deluxe 240GB in RAID0 in my upcoming Shuttle SX79R5 box.

This makes me happy 😀
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I understand your feeling. I get mad every time I boot up my work PC now...
 
npaladin-2000 said:
My experience with OCZ has been flawless, so apparently your mileage may GREATLY vary.

Granted I never went near any of OCZ's SandForce-based drives, but SandForce controllers have been far from flawless across several manufacturers, not just OCZ. But I also hear that large numbers of people have had flawless experiences with those as well. Which means in a statistical sense, overall, they've done well enough to maintain enough of a quality rep to be able to continue to sell their products. Both OCZ and SandForce.
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I remember reading that of all manufacturers OCZ drives had been returned more often. That's regardless of controller. So if two manufacturers had sandforce, the OCZ would be more likely to fail.
 
cmdrdredd said:
I remember reading that of all manufacturers OCZ drives had been returned more often. That's regardless of controller. So if two manufacturers had sandforce, the OCZ would be more likely to fail.
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I remember reading that Santa lived at the North Pole, so what? 😎 I think it would matter exactly WHERE you read it...
 
Owls said:
Do you mind elaborating? I know that with bios modding tools you can update the OROM but it can also cause unpleasant problems with the intel raid chipset.
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Just using the modding tools out there. Have updated a few times with no issues so far. Was a tongue in cheek type of comment! 😉
 
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