News on the Hybrid front

[GoPackGo]

My Saturn Vue is listed as 23/29 and we did a road trip and got over 28 MPG.

Not the best in the world, but not terrible either.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Most mini-vans get the same mileage as the SUVs around them.

If you go look at the charts you will find many of todays sedans getting worse mileage than some SUVs.

Oh come on, your talking out of your a$$ again.

Even a mini-van with an 8 cylinder engine which most mini's are 6 cyl are half the weight of SUV's.

Give me a break.

I gave you enough of a break for your rampant stupidity and thread crapping. I understand its beyond your feeble abilities to look stuff up, instead your stuck in your infantile world of playground insults.

Should you actually care for facts, please feel free to read the numbers yourself.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/FEG2007.pdf


you will see that my statement is correct. There are many SUVs that get better mileage than minivans. Minivans are horribly inefficient in many areas , paticularly mileage

As an actual function of vehicles SOLD . . . most SUVs do NOT get better mileage than minivans. Sure, there's a FEW that do but those aren't the vehicles people commonly buy. By actual vehicle volume (interior) class, you will scarcely find any SUV that gets better gas mileage than a comparable minivan. It's foolish to compare a CRV, RAV4, or Escape to a Sienna or Odyssey. The truth is that the average minivan will get low 20s while the typical land yacht will not escape the teens. There's less of a disparity for Honda/Acura and Toyota/Lexus when comparing V6 platforms since many of their SUVs/crossovers are built on the same platform as the minivans. But there's no comparing the 5+L variants of V8 SUVs from the Detroit 1 3/4.

Fortunately, most Americans are coming to their senses. There wasn't a single SUV among the top 10 selling vehicles of 2006. Granted, the big pickups from Detroit still lead though.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: azazyel
"What the hell is a crossover vehicle? It's and SUV on a car chassis that will probably never go off-road. It's smaller than a minivan. Well let me see...that would be a...CAR! Stop building models that people don?t' need and concentrate on lean, strong product program."

Actually, it's a wagon.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
There's less of a disparity for Honda/Acura and Toyota/Lexus when comparing V6 platforms since many of their SUVs/crossovers are built on the same platform as the minivans. But there's no comparing the 5+L variants of V8 SUVs from the Detroit 1 3/4.

*notes that GM and ford are pushing into the station wagon, ert 'crossover' market as fast as they can, and toyota/lexus has more truck-framed SUVs than anyone*

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
I was on the fence for quite a while as I had a car that would get 36 mpg on the highway. Why spend the extra $5,000 or more to get a car that would only get 10 - 15 mpg more than what I was driving, then I found an used Honda Insight for roughly half the price of any other used Hybrid in the area. For the record a 2006 Prius only get s about 46 mpg combined.

My point is, if a hybrid doesn't get extremely good mileage compared to a normal car car people won't buy it and that is what happened with the Accord. Looking at fueleconomy.gov the 2006 Hybrid Accord only gets 22mpg in the city, and 31 mpg on the highway. I don't know about anyone else, but I find that kind of mileage appalling for a gas engine vehicle let alone a hybrid. I can safely say that I won't touch a hybrid vehicle unless it gets higher than about 50 mpg average, of course higher is better as with the Insight (60 city / 70 Highway with driving methods for getting 80 and even 90 mpg).

well the thing was the accord was the super deluxe model, more for acceleration than for economy. not enough luxury for the lux crowd and not lean enough for the green crowd. that was its problem.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: azazyel
"What the hell is a crossover vehicle? It's and SUV on a car chassis that will probably never go off-road. It's smaller than a minivan. Well let me see...that would be a...CAR! Stop building models that people don?t' need and concentrate on lean, strong product program."

Actually, it's a wagon.

hush YOU!

I am not driving a WAGON.


Its a crossover. Thank you.


Well, maybe its a TALL wagon