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<< Thorn - &quot;they graze, they poop, they sleep...&quot; - There's a lot of older folks in retirement homes who fit that description as well (I know that was bad, but it's just devil's advocate). >>


Now that's just moronic. Comparing our elderly to a bunch of stupid animals is just way out of line. Try walking up to a 70 year-old lady and say that, or worse yet, your own grandmother. Try out a little compassion within your own species before trying to save another.

I worked at Swaggerty's meats for an entire summer and I know how animals are slaughtered (I worked on the floor hauling the carcasses around on a pallet jack). Some could be killed more effectively, but for the most part all were killed quickly and with little if any suffering.

1.) The animals, the cattle and pigs, are led into a stall where their heads are bound to keep them still.

2.) Then a large mallot is loaded with a mid-caliber cartridge that has a very blunt lead slug.

3.) Then quickly, so the animal isn't startled, the worker standing above the animal hits it in the head with the mallot killing the critter instantly.

The only time when this wasn't the case was when there was an accident... but accidents were actually quite rare. And I don't know where you get this info from:


<< People could only work on the kill floor for 30 days out of a year because of this method. >>


My uncle's worked at that packing house on the killing floor for 25+ years. In all that time he's never become a vegetarian or anything of the sort... It's his job and he provides a great service to the community. He's not ashamed of his job and it deosn't sicken him. I know it'll be difficult for you to accept but he's actually a really nice guy.

Want know how your meats are actually processed? Take a tour of packing house some time and see for yourself, it's a good investment of time considering. Or better yet, go work at one for a couple months.
 


<< I assume you worked there if you know all that. Of all the dishes I made up when I was there, the fried Broiled Chicken had to be the best!!! You ever try that? >>


You're damn straight!!! Those are the best ever. Yeah, I used to work there, and all we did was eat everything in there. The broiled chicken was the most common to get ate, and we cost our restaraunt a LOT of money in wasted food. I worked there for almost a year, and was a shift leader, and let everybody get away with anything.
 
Thorn - excellent, if the slaughterhouse you worked at (and where your uncle works) is as humane and responsible as you describe, then that is how they should be and I'm glad. And if the BK ones are like that, then PETA is again full of it!

But, if the BK suppliers are not operating humanely, then that needs to be looked at.


Asll I'm saying is just because PETA blow everyhting out of proportion, doesn't always mean there might not be a grain of truth to check into. If all checks out fine, great. If not - then perhaps people need to say something.

Listen - I love eating meat! I eat it all, and use leather, animal products... But I do want the animals that make my dinner to have at least humane living conditions, and a humane end. The place you described fits that, which is great. I hope they all do.

Remember, if we get stupid in taking care of our own food animals, we wind up with things like Mad Cow Disease (caused by saving $$$ by feeding cows thier own kind). I don't really want to eat an animal that went insane from starvation / abuse... we are messing with the natural order of things then.

I'm Typing - animals are not human - they don't have &quot;rights&quot; like we do, or like PETA wants them to have. I'm not for that at all. I think it is for our own good that WE behave humanely and act with wise dominion over nature. After all, we are the top of the food chain, but we also need the food chain to live!
 
The problem with society is that animals and kids don't have rights. If you don't believe me step into your local family court or animal abuse case and experience it first hand. Then tell me these two areas don't need rights.

Maybe PETA does go overboard, but what have you done to help society?
 
I think it was on Mash one time that they said that horses are beautiful animals - but cows are so ugly, that you're doing them a favor by killing them and eating them 😉
 
Thorn- My friend worked at a meat packing plant in Iowa for several summers and that is how he described it. Because of your statement, I did some research on the internet to find out the truth. I found this on the internet from MSN Encarta's Learning and Research page of modern-day beef processing which further backs up my statement:

&quot;In recent years labor-saving devices have been widely adopted in the processing of cattle. A continuous rail system is generally used today, whereby cattle are chained by one leg and hoisted to a movable pulley on an overhead rail and are then slaughtered; from this position blood leaves the body so quickly that death occurs almost instantly, and for purposes of kosher ritual this method of slaughtering is defined as humane even without prior stunning. The carcasses then move slowly along a continuously moving rail to stations where each required process is completed, including skinning, disemboweling, and beheading.&quot;


Seeing as to how this also backs up my friend's statements and I know him to be an honest guy, I don't doubt when he said employees were rotated on this position. You can claim whatever you want, but I still believe my friend and Encarta over you.

Also, since you didn't notice, I did say my statement about old folks was pretty bad and I was merely playing devil's advocate. No need to get so serious about that.



 
I stopped listening to PETA fanatics when one of their leaders said on TV that she would NOT give up the life of her pet if doing so would save another human being.
 


<< The problem with society is that animals and kids don't have rights. If you don't believe me step into your local family court or animal abuse case and experience it first hand. Then tell me these two areas don't need rights.

Maybe PETA does go overboard, but what have you done to help society?

>>



Ummm... listen, I'm in here trying to say that animals need to be treated humanely! Why does what I do for society (which is plenty!) come into this?

I said

<< they don't have &quot;rights&quot; like we do, or like PETA wants them to have >>



Like we do... animals are not people and are not supposed to be treated as equal to us. However, they do have a different set of thier own &quot;rights&quot; - just not like ours. And PETA wants to give them rights superior to humans, which again, is not a good idea. Animal rights are along the lines of not being killed for no good reason, not being treated inhumanely, not being tourtured, abused.... etc. These are neecessary and good rules to set and live by.



😕
 
Give up the life of one of my pets to save someone I don't know? Hell no!

My pets are like children to me, and I won't sacrifice them for some human...

Now if it was my wife or my cat, it would still be tough, but there's probably not another woman who will put up with me. 😉
 
BDawg - cat or wife? Either way you'll still have have pussy 😉

I would be the same way too though. My pets would be too important to me. They would be like family.
 


<< Seeing as to how this also backs up my friend's statements and I know him to be an honest guy, I don't doubt when he said employees were rotated on this position. You can claim whatever you want, but I still believe my friend and Encarta over you. >>


Whatever, I just know how it's done in the slaughter houses here, you can believe what you want. And as far as rotating people is concerned, I guess we simply produce sturdier folk here in the hills of TN.

BTW, if that's the way that some companies have to slaughter livestock then so be it. I don't feel that that method is overtly torturous.

Veal's really the only meat I have a problem with. I won't eat it, and neither will most people I know (including my uncle). Swaggerty's doesn't even produce veal anymore... the owners thought it was cruel.
 
&quot;Hamburgers, the cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast&quot;
&quot;mmmmMMMMM this is a tasty burger!&quot;
&quot;Mind if I have some of your tasty beverage to wash this down?&quot; 🙂
 
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