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Aharami

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Just wait until the James Webb Telescope is finally launched, it will be able to detect the atmospheric content of planets and further aid the hunt for earth like planets.

Just last month congress approved the continuation of funding for the James Webb, which was in doubt due to huge cost overruns and poor management.

Does anyone doubt anymore that life exists beyond earth? I don't.

Neil deGrasse Tyson put it nicely. skip to 1:30 mark http://www.wimp.com/universealone/
 

davmat787

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Neil deGrasse Tyson put it nicely. skip to 1:30 mark http://www.wimp.com/universealone/

Can't watch video at the moment but I am guessing he is referring to the math?

There are over 100 million stars in our galaxy alone, each star is a potential solar system. Then there are over 100 billion galaxies out there, each one containing over 100 million stars, or potential solar systems.

Just the math alone says there is life out there. Then you have the Drake equation for further estimations. Just think if intelligent life on some planet evolved even just 10,000 years earlier, let alone 100,000 years earlier. :awe:
 

Aharami

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no, how the concentration of elements in our bodies matches exactly the same as that of the universe
 

davmat787

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no, how the concentration of elements in our bodies matches exactly the same as that of the universe

Well, we are all literally "star children" afterall. :)

Thanks for the link, will watch it ASAP, big fan of his.
 

Darwin333

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Can't watch video at the moment but I am guessing he is referring to the math?

There are over 100 million stars in our galaxy alone, each star is a potential solar system. Then there are over 100 billion galaxies out there, each one containing over 100 million stars, or potential solar systems.

Just the math alone says there is life out there. Then you have the Drake equation for further estimations. Just think if intelligent life on some planet evolved even just 10,000 years earlier, let alone 100,000 years earlier. :awe:

Look at our own advancement in the last 100 years and ponder where we might be if we hadn't had the dark ages. I will grant that our wars have led to some of our technology but think about where we would be if all of the worlds resources that have been spent on wars/.mil were instead used on science.

As far as time, intelligent life could have evolved 100's of millions of years earlier. We can't begin to fathom what 1,000 years of advancement would bring. It truly is an awesome (and extremely possible) thing to ponder.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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Big whoop. A celestial body so far away we can barely take any accurate measurements. Why are we wasting resources on this?

Because it would be nice to have a map before we set out on our voyage.
 

Jeff7

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Neil deGrasse Tyson put it nicely. skip to 1:30 mark http://www.wimp.com/universealone/
It would indeed be insanely crazy if we're the only ones.

The available diagrams of the Universe show an incredibly immense place. Illustrations of a region filled with galactic superclusters, huge groups of many many thousands upon thousands of galaxies - it's just crazy how huge the Universe is.

If we are alone thus far, our next step should be a powerful broadcast in all directions:
"FIRST!!!!"
 

davmat787

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As far as time, intelligent life could have evolved 100's of millions of years earlier. We can't begin to fathom what 1,000 years of advancement would bring. It truly is an awesome (and extremely possible) thing to ponder.

No doubt, I just used smaller numbers as they are easier to swallow. The Universe is what? 13.7 billion years old? The earth is about 4.5 billion years old. If another earth like planet had an extra billion year head start, the possibilities are truly awe inspiring to think about. Of course the planet can't be too old, it must still be tectonically active to support life from what I understand.

Things sure have changed, just 50 or so years ago a scientist would be looked down upon for insisting that life exists elsewhere, now it is almost universally accepted.
 

davmat787

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It would indeed be insanely crazy if we're the only ones.

The available diagrams of the Universe show an incredibly immense place. Illustrations of a region filled with galactic superclusters, huge groups of many many thousands upon thousands of galaxies - it's just crazy how huge the Universe is.

If we are alone thus far, our next step should be a powerful broadcast in all directions:
"FIRST!!!!"

Another interesting aspect of the universe and life is that (IIRC) a universe is only capable of supporting life during the first 1.5 to 4% of its life, or some other incredibly small window. Outside of that narrow window, a universe is too young for proper planet formation in goldilocks zones, and too old for planets too be close enough, the big chill effect so too speak. Will look for better info, but it something along these lines.

Graph and some linkage, note the narrow time frame between first and last stars, and blackholes.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Graphical_timeline

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_timeline_of_our_universe
 
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bfdd

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It would indeed be insanely crazy if we're the only ones.

The available diagrams of the Universe show an incredibly immense place. Illustrations of a region filled with galactic superclusters, huge groups of many many thousands upon thousands of galaxies - it's just crazy how huge the Universe is.

If we are alone thus far, our next step should be a powerful broadcast in all directions:
"FIRST!!!!"

I don't think so, I mean maybe we're just the furthest ahead.
 

JulesMaximus

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Can't watch video at the moment but I am guessing he is referring to the math?

There are over 100 million stars in our galaxy alone, each star is a potential solar system. Then there are over 100 billion galaxies out there, each one containing over 100 million stars, or potential solar systems.

Just the math alone says there is life out there. Then you have the Drake equation for further estimations. Just think if intelligent life on some planet evolved even just 10,000 years earlier, let alone 100,000 years earlier. :awe:

They would have used up the resources of their planet and killed each other that much sooner than we will?
 

bfdd

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Another interesting aspect of the universe and life is that (IIRC) a universe is only capable of supporting life during the first 1.5 to 4% of its life, or some other incredibly small window. Outside of that narrow window, a universe is too young for proper planet formation in goldilocks zones, and too old for planets too be close enough, the big chill effect so too speak. Will look for better info, but it something along these lines.

Graph and some linkage, note the narrow time frame between first and last stars, and blackholes.

f39dbf96c8df151ce237b9bb9120c47a.png


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Graphical_timeline

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_timeline_of_our_universe

That's what we believe so far, but that might change since we've been able to actualize virtual particles.
 

SagaLore

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Its the probability of Earth-like planets that should give us plenty of motivation to figure out how to travel FTL safely, yet we're wasting time and energy on how to make everything taste like bacon.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
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Another interesting aspect of the universe and life is that (IIRC) a universe is only capable of supporting life during the first 1.5 to 4% of its life, or some other incredibly small window. Outside of that narrow window, a universe is too young for proper planet formation in goldilocks zones, and too old for planets too be close enough, the big chill effect so too speak. Will look for better info, but it something along these lines.

Graph and some linkage, note the narrow time frame between first and last stars, and blackholes.

f39dbf96c8df151ce237b9bb9120c47a.png


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Graphical_timeline

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_timeline_of_our_universe
Sounds like it's time to start thinking of an evacuation plan to get out of the Universe.

"Screw this. I'm making my own Universe, with blackjack! And hookers!"




I don't think so, I mean maybe we're just the furthest ahead.
Possible, but extraordinarily improbable.




Its the probability of Earth-like planets that should give us plenty of motivation to figure out how to travel FTL safely, yet we're wasting time and energy on how to make everything taste like bacon.
What if we could make light taste like bacon?
Lasers = dense, coherent, powerful, amplified bacon.
 

ShadowOfMyself

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This is awesome actually... 600 light years in the scale of the universe is right next door, what are the odds? Shouldnt take long until we can visit that (if we dont cease to exist meanwhile)