Newer 14/16nm video cards that still support VGA? Cheap HDMI-to-VGA dongle?

VirtualLarry

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Just curious. Have friends with VGA LCDs, that I might want to upgrade their video cards, and I just picked up a couple of VGA monitors myself.

I thought I had read something about the RX 460 (or was it the GTX 1060?) supporting VGA through a DVI-I ports. But the cards I've looked at, seem to all have DVI-D DL ports.

Do any of the newer cards support VGA? Does the GTX950? (Have a few of those cards too.)

Edit: If the answer to all of the above is "NO", then what are my options? I've seen cheap HDMI-to-VGA dongles sold by Newegg. Do they work? Do they support up to 1080P?

Edit: I just went through all of the various affordable RX 460 cards, and they all had a DVI-D DL port, not a DVI-I port. Why is this lack of VGA support not being noted in reviews?
 
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bystander36

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Those cheap HDMI to VGA dongles may not work. It seems they don't label them as active, but I do wonder why most are $15-$30, with an occasional ~$5 one.
 

VirtualLarry

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The gtx950 still has it. But with pascal nvidia dropped vga too.

It's a bloody DRM-fueled conspiracy! (No, really. DP/DVI/HDMI all support HDCP... VGA does not. Now you'll need HDCP to watch your online cat videos in VP9 4K res.)

All those people with useable, workable, VGA monitors, will have to upgrade their screens, in order to be able to continue to play their newest video games.
 

SPBHM

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there are plenty of DP to VGA adapters, if you are going to run 60Hz monitors you are probably going to be fine.
 

Flapdrol1337

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All those people with useable, workable, VGA monitors, will have to upgrade their screens, in order to be able to continue to play their newest video games.
A 980Ti isn't below minimum requirements yet.

And active dongles should be enough for the usually awful vga only lcd's, not great for high end crt's though, but who knows, maybe someone will figure out a way to quickly stream the output of a "real" gpu to the intel onboard or a modest card with vga, similar to what soft triplehead did, or maybe someone will make a dongle that works right.
 

richaron

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Yeah the 460 has it by design. It's marketed for the "esports" community, a lot of which are using lower powered & older components like VGA monitors. So DVI -> 15 pin d-sub was necessary.

Edit: At least that's what I recall, I've no personal experience. And AMD partners don't have to follow along. Ymmv.

Edit 2: You made me curious, this is what Ryan said here. But the only ones I've seen have DVI-D also...

Looking at the card itself, the design is what we’d expect to see for a budget video card. AMD’s reference design uses a double-wide open air cooler, on a PCB no longer than the PCIe x16 slot itself. Display I/O is 1x DisplayPort, 1x HDMI, and 1x DL-DVI-I. The inclusion of a DVI port may seem odd at first, but budget cards are especially popular with customers who are using older monitors, or even more so in the APAC region where CRTs (and VGA-port driven LCDs) are still a common fixture. So a DVI-I port allows older DVI LCDs to work without any kind of adapter (as simple as it may be from HDMI), and analog monitors to work without a more complex DP-to-VGA adapter.
 
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TheRyuu

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It's a bloody DRM-fueled conspiracy! (No, really. DP/DVI/HDMI all support HDCP... VGA does not. Now you'll need HDCP to watch your online cat videos in VP9 4K res.)

All those people with useable, workable, VGA monitors, will have to upgrade their screens, in order to be able to continue to play their newest video games.

Even if this post was mostly written as a joke you can actually buy HDCP removers/strippers to work around this.
 
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Yea, I was pretty annoyed with the HD7770 I bought almost 3 years ago. It had only one DVI port and no VGA, so I had to buy an HDMI to VGA adapter to use a dual monitor set up. (I had 2 monitors, each of which had only DVI and VGA ports.) Cost 20.00 for the adapter for a card that I got for 90.00 on sale. I can understand lack of VGA support now, bit a lot of monitors had VGA inputs back then.
 

VirtualLarry

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Edit 2: You made me curious, this is what Ryan said here. But the only ones I've seen have DVI-D also...

I think that might have been where I saw that too. You're right, every RX 460 I've looked at have only DVI-D DL, and not DVI-I. You would have thought that their lower-end "eSports" card would have still supported VGA.
 

Shivansps

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Nope, VGA is dead, no way around it, you will need to use a DP to Vga or HDMI to VGA active adapters.
 

DaveSimmons

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I use an IOGear DisplayPort to VGA adapter with my GTX 980ti, it works fine for 1900x1200.

$14.99 at Amazon - IOGEAR DisplayPort to VGA Adapter Cable, White (GDPVGAW6)