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[masterxfob]

My original comment was mainly a joke & I have ordered from niether place...sale ended @ newegg already. Thanks for the attacks & the hijack....

No restocking fee for something that was never opened. If you're not familiar with "refusing" a package in the mail....once it arrives you just ask the carrier to "return to sender." The package never even leaves the possession of the delivery guy.

i don't think i need to say anything.

Masterxfob, read VirtualLarry's post. He insinuated that I partake in illegal activity, and obviously was in no position to do so. I am not a criminal or unethical, and will call him out on that as bluntly as I need to to get that point across. I'm not going to let that slip. Besides my main gripe with your post was the language...and so early in the morning when I read it. I personally didn't feel your post was fair, partly because it was innaccurate, or at least not accurate in a lot of circumstances, and partly because of the language you used against him. I'm no saint by any means and drop "f" bombs when I feel the need, I guess it jsut rubbed me the wrong way when I read it. In any event you are alright with me bro.. it's all good.

my apologies, as much as i'd like to think i know, i know very little. i just got a little carried away for someone condoning such a thing.

my apologies to everyone else, as i did not intend to hijack this thread

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: masterxfob

My original comment was mainly a joke & I have ordered from niether place...sale ended @ newegg already. Thanks for the attacks & the hijack....

No restocking fee for something that was never opened. If you're not familiar with "refusing" a package in the mail....once it arrives you just ask the carrier to "return to sender." The package never even leaves the possession of the delivery guy.

i don't think i need to say anything.

my apologies to everyone else, as i did not intend to hijack this thread

Hard to show emotions on a web forum, thats why I think they made the emicons ...incase you didn't notice my original wink. As far as your 2nd quote, yes, I have refused a package before, actually quite a few times from office max. I also give my appologies to my contribution to the hijack

I think we can agree to disagree, sale has ended, :beer: all around.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: PrinceXizor
If you guys really want to keep arguing this, plz take it to another thread and stop saturating the Hot Deals forum with this flamewar. Thank you.

P-X

Exactly... but it is rather funny to see how my reply to one person on how some businesses do not raise prices,

An interesting point to be sure, in a way, the laws of "supply and demand", in markets like these, do not allow prices to fluctuate above a certain level, at which point any further raise in prices effectively results in a sort of "cliff" graph plotting prices in relation to revenue. So I suppose that you were initially technically correct, that your actions would probably not "raise prices", at least not directly. But you would be naive to think that your actions do not have resulting reactions.

For example, what if *everyone*, as a matter of course, did what you did? Order multiple identical items from multiple vendors, and simply refuse all but the first. The end result of which, would be that the "accepted" vendor would make, say, $10 on the sale. But the remaining vendors/shipping companies, would each lose $5. This is an overly-simplistic model, but assuming you did so, with 4 vendors total, then the net loss in the cumulative transactions when dealing with you would be $10. How is that good for the socio-economic system? (Again, looking at the biggest overall picture of effects, if EVERYONE did the same thing.)

You claim that they might change their policies, rather than raise prices. Sure. What happens if they institue a policy of personal blacklisting? The net overall effect, might be that you would be labeled as a "bad customer", and the companies, knowing that they would lose money from dealing with you, might outright refuse your "business".

This has in fact happened before - this is not hypothetical. (Read old threads about Staples and other corporations blacklisting people that stacked/re-used coupons, and canceling their orders.)

As companies seek to "know their customers", more and more, usually with automated CRM systems, this is almost a future certainty. There are already quite a few companies, that, based on knowledge of their profile of you as a customer, provide different levels of service (at different levels of cost to them), based on your "customer rating" (profitability, etc.). Dell is one such company known to do such a thing, and I'm sure that there are countless others.

Originally posted by: dnuggett
but lose revenue to these shenanigans, and all of the sudden I condone it. I really don't want to continue this conversation either, but since someone decided to run off at the keyboard there is something I need to type then I'm done:

VirtualLarry- you are quite possibly the slowest person I have ever seen on AT. Either that or you can't read. WHEN DID I CONDONE THIS BEHAVIOR???? I made quite clear that I do not. But that requires reading... obviously a little too much for your mind to handle.

Nah, just setting up a straw man to make you look bad in public, I guess. Your lack of ethical behavior is astounding to some of us. But I guess you don't see that. As long as you obey the "letter of the law" (or "policies"), you don't want to have to think about any possible repercussions of your behaviour, in the long run. If you abuse (policies), you lose, in the long run.

As far as condoning it, did you or did you not, admit to actually displaying this behavior?

Originally posted by: dnuggett
So next time you hear about someone laughed at and called a moron because they run their mouth and don't pay attention to what is going on think of VirtualLarry and how "clever" he is.

I'm guessing that most of the people here, that can read, can see quite how "clever" you are, with your redundant and economically wasteful multiple-shipping/return scheme.

Originally posted by: dnuggett
BTW VirtualLarry that looks like quite a thought out postal scheme you have there.

Nah, it's pretty old and well-known, actually. For the size of your superiority complex, I'm surprised that you've never heard of it before. It should be noted that I do not condone fraud, on the postal system or otherwise.

Legally, your admitted behavior is not fraud, but it is ethically analogous. I think that's really all that I'm trying to point out here.

Personally, I think it's hardly surprising how much you've gotten flamed, after actually proudly displaying how much of an a** you are, in a public forum. The only possibly reason that I could see for someone doing such a thing, is if they held stock in the various shipping companies. Even then, I'm sure that they probably eat part of the costs of the unnecessary returns, thus reducing their service efficiency in the marketplace. (For example, them having to spend more time during delivery, because the package was arbitrarily refused by the addressee.) So in the long run, again, that is a "losing" behavior.

Addendum (note, not edit - I generally don't edit my posts, unlike most of them in this thread - I stand by what I said):

Anyways..

It seems that I made a slight mistake, upon further review (and with a little more reading comprehension this time) my rant should have been directed at CheapArse, not dnuggett. But wait, there's more...

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Hmm, ill just order from both..whoever gets here the fastest ill keep...slowest gets the refused stamp.

Originally posted by: CheapArse

My original comment was mainly a joke & I have ordered from niether place...sale ended @ newegg already. Thanks for the attacks & the hijack....

And in the end, it seems... that I Have Been Trolled.

Good day, gentlemen.

 

[dnuggett]

It seems that I made a slight mistake, upon further review (and with a little more reading comprehension this time) my rant should have been directed at CheapArse, not dnuggett. But wait, there's more...

Your damn straight your little hissy fit ranting shouldn't have been directed at me. Like I said learn how to read before you acuse someone of doing something unethical like you suggested I do/did. I was wondering how far your head had to be up your ass to think that this was my way of doing things. And to think I even called you out and asked you where I said it..... and you still post a bunch of crap on me, good lord.

In the end.... this quote sticks:

So next time you hear about someone laughed at and called a moron because they run their mouth and don't pay attention to what is going on think of VirtualLarry and how "clever" he is.