Newegg has X1800XT back in stock for $579

[crazydingo]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814102629

13 remaining.

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[CalamitySymphony]

I'd go for it if its GTX256 prices

 

[Zenoth]

I'd be surprised, but it might happen one day (price going down).

But, technically, the X1800 XT is better than any 256 MB versions of the GTX, in most situations and settings, especially in Direct 3D, which the majority of games are rendered with.

And ... usually you pay more when it's better.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Zenoth
I'd be surprised, but it might happen one day (price going down).

But, technically, the X1800 XT is better than any 256 MB versions of the GTX, in most situations and settings, especially in Direct 3D, which the majority of games are rendered with.

And ... usually you pay more when it's better.

Has anyone seen a review comparing it to any of the four 490/1300 GTXs?

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Zenoth
I'd be surprised, but it might happen one day (price going down).

But, technically, the X1800 XT is better than any 256 MB versions of the GTX, in most situations and settings, especially in Direct 3D, which the majority of games are rendered with.

And ... usually you pay more when it's better.

Has anyone seen a review comparing it to any of the four 490/1300 GTXs?

Yes (well, almost). The HardOCP review had it against a 460/1300 GTX. The X1800XT was even or slightly ahead in their estimation. link

Digit-Life's latest 3Digest includes both stock and OCed 7800GTX 256MB cards (and a 7800GTX SLI). They're from September, though, so the drivers are a few months behind. Again, the cards are pretty close; it does get butchered in Chronicles Of Riddick, though.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Matthias99

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Zenoth
I'd be surprised, but it might happen one day (price going down).

But, technically, the X1800 XT is better than any 256 MB versions of the GTX, in most situations and settings, especially in Direct 3D, which the majority of games are rendered with.

And ... usually you pay more when it's better.

Has anyone seen a review comparing it to any of the four 490/1300 GTXs?

Yes (well, almost). The HardOCP review had it against a 460/1300 GTX. The X1800XT was even or slightly ahead in their estimation. link

Digit-Life's latest 3Digest includes both stock and OCed 7800GTX 256MB cards (and a 7800GTX SLI). They're from September, though, so the drivers are a few months behind. Again, the cards are pretty close; it does get butchered in Chronicles Of Riddick, though.

There's a review on xbitlabs using the asus extreme gtx at 490
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/asus-en7800gtx.html
They both win some and lose some, but I think that was before the 5.11 drivers gave the x1800 a nice boost in performance.

 

[nRollo]

Thanks Matthias, I had forgotten BFG has their RAM at 1300.

 

[Zenoth]

I based my saying mostly on XBit Labs' review on ASUS Extreme N7800 GTX TOP, versus stock speeds X1800 XT.

The Extreme N7800 is over-clocked at 486/1350.

In Battlefield 2 at 1600 x 1200, with 4 x FSAA and 16 x Aniso:
ASUS Top - 72.8
X1800 XT - 85.7

In Far Cry -Research-, at 1600 x 1200 with 4 x FSAA and 16 x Aniso:
ASUS Top - 78.1
X1800 XT - 83.1

In F.E.A.R. Multiplayer Beta, at 1024 x 768, with 4 x FSAA and 16 x Aniso:
ASUS Top - 33 (max)
X1800 XT - 41 (max)

Etc.

No, of course, the X1800 XT isn't faster everywhere, in every game.

Is it a perfect card ? Hell no, far from that. Is any of the GeForce 7 series GPU perfect ? Nope.

Does nVidia offers perform better in OpenGL ? Sure thing, as usual.

Are the best known games rendered in OpenGL ? So far, no. Doom III ? Please ...

Am I saying that because it is more expensive that it's worth to buy a X1800 XT anyway, just because it's just a little faster in most situations ? Hell no.

What I'm saying is that, technically speaking, the X1800 XT is a faster solution. Not everywhere ... yes, I know. Not everytime, yes, I know. But the fact that it performs better just by 1 frames-per-second means it is, technically, faster.

And to be honest, to see that the GTX 256 MB version needs to be over-clocked to perform as well or just a little more than the X1800 XT shouldn't be taken into consideration.

Because no web-sites so far reviewed extensively a X1800 XT over-clocked at 690+ / 1600+ ...

P.S/ Here's the article in question from XBit Labs: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/asus-en7800gtx.html

And I am sorry to turn this into a potential debate. It wasn't my intention. I thought most people, including the most-informed Rollo would know all this by now

 

[Powermoloch]

Lol was the 7800GTX was priced very high when it was released? I'm not sure why ppl is moaning when X1800XT is priced @ 579?

 

[aatf510]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Lol was the 7800GTX was priced very high when it was released? I'm not sure why ppl is moaning when X1800XT is priced @ 579?

Yes, and it seems like a good deal now with 512MB GTX priced @ $750.

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Lol was the 7800GTX was priced very high when it was released? I'm not sure why ppl is moaning when X1800XT is priced @ 579?

Well partly because it didn't come out on the official release day, like the 7800GTX did, but rather a month later . . .

From the look of things, the 256MB version will probably be around $500 when they come out . . . which would make it "only" $50 more than a GTX . . .

 

[crazydingo]

40 Connect3D X1800XTs in stock at the egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814142054

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Zenoth
I'd be surprised, but it might happen one day (price going down).

But, technically, the X1800 XT is better than any 256 MB versions of the GTX, in most situations and settings, especially in Direct 3D, which the majority of games are rendered with.

And ... usually you pay more when it's better.

Has anyone seen a review comparing it to any of the four 490/1300 GTXs?

Hard does it, but they give ATI more challenging settings in all benchies.

When will ATI lower prices to 400?

 

[Ackmed]

HardOCP uses a BFG card, which is 460/1300.

Why should ATi lower the price to $400 MSRP? The 256mg GTX is still $599 MSRP too, and doesnt sell for $400. You post doesnt make any sense.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
HardOCP uses a BFG card, which is 460/1300.

Why should ATi lower the price to $400 MSRP? The 256mg GTX is still $599 MSRP too, and doesnt sell for $400. You post doesnt make any sense.

Well, I meant when ATI doesn't put any restrictions on pricing. Inquirer said that ATI was alienating any retailors that went below MSRP for the XT

 

[Ackmed]

Right.. because the Inq is always right? The X1800XL is well below MSRP, at about $360 right now. In fact, I think ATi did drop the XL's MSRP, because CompUSA, Bestbuy and CircuitCity all have it for $399.99... I really, really doubt NV or ATi care that their cards are sold at lower than MSRP prices. If anything, they should care when screwegg and others raise the price $100+ over MSRP.

 

[Ronin]

Only if people aren't buying them (which isn't the case). Let's not go into the "Basic Business Principles" discussion again, please.

 

[deadseasquirrel]

While I agree, on average, it performs better than the 256GTX, I don't think the performance increase is worth another $120. Plus, the fact that you can buy FS/FT GTXs at or below $400 now, makes it even more difficult to compare. I realize that ATI was late getting them out the door, but if you're going to be comparing your top end card to a competitor's card that was out almost 5 months prior, you're fighting a losing battle unless you can get those prices down near the same level FAST (while still giving yourself a premium for the better performance).

 

[nRollo]

These days I think we're far more concerned with actual game FEAR demos (which shows the cards more even) than BETA Zenoth.

As far as Doom3 goes, we're more concerned with Quake4, which rocks, and Quake Wars, Prey, and RTCW2? (so no "puh-leeze" OpenGL is alive and well)

I'm actually playing Quake 4 (single and multi) more than anything, by far. And I have SSII and FEAR as well.