Newegg has a case with 350watts for $9.99

styrafoam

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Doesn't look like the backplate is removable, be careful if you plan on using any recent motherboard.
 

onelove

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not bad. now if only the shipping were not $15.99 - still not a bad deal in spite of that.
 

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Originally posted by: styrafoam
Doesn't look like the backplate is removable, be careful if you plan on using any recent motherboard.

Actually it looks like it is removable. If you've ever bought a cheapo case like these, the backplate has holes punched into spots so you can bend, tear, and break it off the case. More fun sharpness like the good ol days!
 

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Looks good for $9.99 but the shipping really is too high. I would remove front silver colored plastic covering the grill and replace with some mesh. I like the fact that it has a location for two fans on the back, too.
 

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Originally posted by: NasdaqTrader889
Looks good for $9.99 but the shipping really is too high. I would remove front silver colored plastic covering the grill and replace with some mesh. I like the fact that it has a location for two fans on the back, too.

powersupply included doesn't hurt either! just saw this and figured it would be posted already :)
 

styrafoam

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Originally posted by: Averox
Originally posted by: styrafoam
Doesn't look like the backplate is removable, be careful if you plan on using any recent motherboard.

Actually it looks like it is removable. If you've ever bought a cheapo case like these, the backplate has holes punched into spots so you can bend, tear, and break it off the case. More fun sharpness like the good ol days!

My bad, I saw the holes but didn't notice that it was also scored.
 

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Originally posted by: tbrooks40
Originally posted by: NasdaqTrader889
Looks good for $9.99 but the shipping really is too high. I would remove front silver colored plastic covering the grill and replace with some mesh. I like the fact that it has a location for two fans on the back, too.

powersupply included doesn't hurt either! just saw this and figured it would be posted already :)

You know that powersupply will probably blow up and take half the system with it. I hate no name psus
 

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The case almost looks like that one beige antec solution series mid tower case. Heh.
 

IlllI

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wow. could they have ripped off the antec design anymore than they already have !??
 

mindless1

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...powersupply included doesn't hurt either!
Yes it hurts. It adds a couple bucks to the price and weight (shipping), while not being viable to power any remotely modern system... just more trash in our landfills.
 

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Originally posted by: Yolner
You know that powersupply will probably blow up and take half the system with it. I hate no name psus
It's not a "no-name", look at the model numbers. It's most likely an L&C PSU re-badge. You're right in your observations though, it most-likely will do that. I had a 300W fail on me, thankfully it didn't take my system out with it.
 

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You get what you pay for...especially, with a case and PSU. The PSU is the LAST thing you want to skimp on.:thumbsdown:
 

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Yes, it goes without saying that if you want to roll the dice on this at the very least you'll need to replace the PSU. Even if you could trust it not to fry your components (assuming it would even work in the first place), look at the pictures. It appears to have a plug for the motherboard and only one/two others devices.
 

RobsTV

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In all the years spent here at Anandtech, the biggest line of hogwash I regularly see in these forums is the need for quality high output power supplies. Do some of you have that bad of luck???


Couple points.
Do you actually think the major PC makers use quality high wattage power supplies? Take a look.
Have you read the reviews at Newegg on the cheap cases with cheap power supplies?

I have been building and selling dozens of HTPC's for years, using mATX, with "crap" 200w supplies.
Here are the cases typically used:
Maxtop Spycase
Athenatech A100BB
For those customers that want cheap PC, this cheap tower with it's 300w is used:
Codegen w/300w $22.00

For my own test bed HTPC's, I use the above Maxtop and Athenatech cases.
These are loaded with DVB-S FTA card, HTPC OTA card, ATi 9600 Pro, DVD burner, 120 gig, Barton, 3 case fans, etc.

My system is also used for gaming, so when I went to ATi 9700 Pro, all the talk about power supplies confinced me that I would need more, so I splurged and picked up an Antec Aria with it's 300w supply. After month of use with the Aria, I was not impressed, so thought I would give one of the old 200w systems a try with the ATi 9700 Pro. Two weeks of running later, and now have the Aria for sale. The 200w has no problems or issues running an above average PC.

BTW, the 350w supply included with this $9.99 case has decent specs compared to Antec Aria 300w supply.
High end Aria case, 3.3v = 27A, 5v = 26A (195w combined), 12v = 18A
Cheap $9.99 case, 3.3v = 28A, 5v = 35A (200w combined), 12v = 16A

Although the 200w supplies have been tested and tested for more than a year, with dozens of sales, for my own system I did just order a 300w SilenX mATX supply. But that is because I am trying for a totally silient system, not because of the need for more power, or higher quality.

300w junk power supply will be fine for 99.95% of the users out there.

Now trying to confince one of these power hungry posters that cheap is fine is like trying to get someone to change their vote from Bush to Kerry, or Kerry to Bush.

Flame suit staying off, as I am not going to debate this. It is pointless.
You think you need quality, and it gives you piece of mind, great, go for it.
Just don't look in the forums related to power supplies, as you will see many of these top quality supplies fail just like the low quality supplies fail.


Thanks OP for pointing out this deal.
I picked one up, like I usually do when hot deals on cheap cases appear at Newegg.
Problem is I only ordered one, and if this is like the others, I will regret not ordering the limit.
Now sold out............

But wait, there's more..................
You can always get one of these $120 power supplies for only $70 + shipping!!!Ultra X-Connect thread
Wait, better stick with this $10 case and supply, as it seems even that high end supply is hated and ragged on by some.
Point is, go cheap, as you will never please the power supply gods.
 

mindless1

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RobsTV,
Over and over again I've seen those junk PSU fail. The user is lucky when it simply won't POST a system but more often it just frys a hard drive or motherboard. You've had a PSU running for two weeks and you are convinced it's "OK"? Take a car and redline it, it too will run a while.

The problem is not total wattage most often, rather the particular rail most demanding on a particular system. The major problem there is that these generic PSU aren't worth their rated wattage and/or not clean power. They may CLAIM 300W but that doesn't mean they can deliver 200W with much stability. IMHO, it's fraud how they're labeled. Show us generics that are rated accurately and can sustain clean output over a period of time (over a year of run-time) and we may have a better picture of viability.

 

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Originally posted by: mindless1
RobsTV,
Over and over again I've seen those junk PSU fail. The user is lucky when it simply won't POST a system but more often it just frys a hard drive or motherboard. You've had a PSU running for two weeks and you are convinced it's "OK"? Take a car and redline it, it too will run a while.

The problem is not total wattage most often, rather the particular rail most demanding on a particular system. The major problem there is that these generic PSU aren't worth their rated wattage and/or not clean power. They may CLAIM 300W but that doesn't mean they can deliver 200W with much stability. IMHO, it's fraud how they're labeled. Show us generics that are rated accurately and can sustain clean output over a period of time (over a year of run-time) and we may have a better picture of viability.

I agree with RobsTV. I don't build computers for a living but over 7 years I've probably built 75-100 for myself, family, friends, coworkers and for work. The ONLY power supply I've had go bad was the first computer I ever built in 1996 which blew after a year. The ONLY motherboard I had go out was an FIC board with an 330 W ATX Antec power supply and I don't think I could explain that to the PS itself. I try to buy a better PS when the expense is negligible but it's definitely overrated. I have a cheap 300 watt PS running my Athlon 2400+ with an ECS Kt75A, two hard drives, a DVD drive and a DVD burner and five case fans. Never a peep in nearly two years. I have 7 other computers running folding@home programs full time at 100% CPU utilization, 24/7 and they have been fine, some running for a few years straight with cheap PS. I would say go ahead and spend more if you like, I am perfectly happy with my track record.
 

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Originally posted by: htne
Yes, it is OOS. For those of you who missed this deal, Newegg still has the PowMax case for $29.99 with free shipping, the bottom line is only $4 more than this case.

http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=11-145-034&depa=0

And here's a black case by Rosewill for $29.99 with free shipping

http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=11-147-010&depa=0

Tigerdirect also selling this case but $39.99 + shipping, Please check that out



http://www.tigerdirect.com/app...7112&Sku=M115-1002
 

cpotter

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I'm doing my first build. I've decided on an AMD Athlon 64 2800+ and SolTek MOBO. Have not decided on other components yet but will likely also be running a DVD writer, DVD rom, 60 to 80 Gig hard drive, floppy, low end video card, and potentially a card reader. I do not do any high end gaming.

Need a case with PSU but don't want to spend a ton. Have had mid range Compaq's and IBM's in the past and never had a PSU fail. Have read many posts here that suggest Antec or better cases. Just not sure if I need that much for my system given my usage. Read somewhere that Powmax is horrible, but Dynapower, Athenateh, and Rosewill are reasonable for the price.

In particular looking at Dynapower for $39 with free shipping and overall good reviews.

http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=11-138-039&depa=1

To me this seams reasonable. Any thoughts from thos with this or a similar Dynapower? Or others who frequently build with non-exotic cases? I've done a fair amount of research and the 430W PSU with 17A on the 12V rail seems reasonable for my needs.

Thanks for your input. Chad
 

cpotter

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Also need suggestions regarding a video card. Want to spend $40-50. What is the best card in this range. Again, do not do any 3D games. Just a regular user.

Thanks. Chad