Newegg has 3 different Abit ti4200?

Lanyap

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1 = 8X AGP 128MB
1 = 8X AGP 64MB
1 = 4X(?) AGP 64MB

All three are refurbs. Don't know why the older 4X is $10 more. Maybe it's in better shape that the other two. I would get the 8X 128MB. It has the most in stock.

 

BTSpope

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Originally posted by: Nikamichi
Of the 3 Abits, 1 has 128mb ddr. in this case more mem, better performance.

128 mb

believe it or not the 64 mb version is faster in most cases, as its usually comes with faster memory modules
 

Lanyap

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Originally posted by: BTSpope
Originally posted by: Nikamichi
Of the 3 Abits, 1 has 128mb ddr. in this case more mem, better performance.

128 mb

believe it or not the 64 mb version is faster in most cases, as its usually comes with faster memory modules
I think that's the way it was when the 128MB version first came out but then later in it's life cycle it caught up with the 64MB model and in some/most(?) cases surpassed it. The only reason I would be warey of the 64MB is that they are probably returns of older cards. Might have a better chance of a working one by getting the 128MB model, especially since it had 19 in stock. They may actually be refurbs form the manufacturer.

 

fallenheart

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Hmm... Didn't abit GF4 ti 4200 had serious flaws? I remember people returning these for all sorts of reasons about a year ago.
 

unclebud

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i have a pny 4200, my friend did too. his died
he leaves his computer on 24/7 and just turns the monitor off.
i turn mine on when i want to do something, and (usually) turn it off when finished.
i know he has had two or three hard drives die on him as well (in different machines)
i am saying that a lot of people (like my friend) don't know what they are doing, and sometimes just tear stuff up
not to mention overclocking...
 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: BTSpope
Originally posted by: Nikamichi
Of the 3 Abits, 1 has 128mb ddr. in this case more mem, better performance.

128 mb

believe it or not the 64 mb version is faster in most cases, as its usually comes with faster memory modules

that is correct...

abit 4200 64mb chip = faster...

im running one myself...but beware that gpu fan is kinda busted...mine never worked. but it's never crashed on me except for ut2k4...but i just got a new gpu fan for it..so im going to replace it soon...goodluck...a abit4200 is a good choice for a budget card now...if not go for the 9800 ;)
 

BTSpope

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my old abit siluro 64mb card died when i transfered it from one pc to another......their vid cards are garbage compared to their mainboards
 

GregoryD

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4200 8x 128mb is little faster then

4200 8x 64mb is slightly faster then

4200 4x 64mb is a little faster then

4200 4x 128mb

the last one has more memory but is clocked slower then the 64mb version... people were kinda puzzled :)
 

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Originally posted by: fallenheart
Hmm... Didn't abit GF4 ti 4200 had serious flaws? I remember people returning these for all sorts of reasons about a year ago.

That was Gainward.
 

phonemonkey

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Gonna have to order me one of the PNY cards. I ordered one of the 64mb 4x versions for xmas, and got an 8x 128mb model instead (the invoice listed it as the 64mb model). Thanks!
 

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I have the 64MB version of the Abit Siluro. For the price it is a fast card but the card takes a severe performance hit in DX 9 games. I transfered mine to another comp when I bought an ATI 9600xt. Still works great. The 4200 is installed on an Abit NFS-7 motherboard and gets 11,500 3D marks in 2001se. My 9600xt with the same MB gets only 12,500. This may be the best value vid card available for the money right now (if you do not play a lot of DX9 games that is).
 

Lanyap

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Originally posted by: SirDude
HOw do you tell how many are in stock?
Add one to your cart then up the count to 99. If count stays at 99 then they have 99+ in stock, otherwise they have the amount it shows. Only 12 left of the 8X 128MB.


 

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8x-128 has 500MHz memory clock unlike the 4x-128 which has a 444MHz clock. The 8x-128 is the fastest Ti4200 since its memory clock is no slower than that of the 64MB cards. Looks good for $59.
 

mboy

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Don't buy it. MANY Known issues with the Abit 4200's, Go to their own forums and see.
I have one (just replaced it with a 9800 Pro). Random checkerboard lockups and only way to get out is reboot.
Abit doesn't admint to the problem, but Everyone with the card seems to have the same issue.
MIne is a Siluro OTES 64mb ti4200. Comes overclocked, but I had to diasble write combing AND undlerclock it to slightly slower then stock speeds to minimize the random crashes.

Hell if you want a used one, you can buy mine.
 

mindless1

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Checkerboard lockups are typically capacitor failure problem... That's one of the primary differences between a TI4200 and TI4400-4600, more caps.

The caps can be replaced... more info in a thread at amdmb that focuses on Gainward cards but still same issue... even if caps aren't defective they may wear out, particularly on cards that have such a large tolerance for o'c. Visit a cap manufacturer's website like rubycon and you'll see that cap lifetime at typical temps is measured in days, not years... the key being to over-spec a quality part. If you want to replace the caps yourself I provided a couple of part numbers and more info, search for my posts regarding this at amdmb, "mindless1"... though if you can do without the card try to get abit to replace it... but if they do it still might fail again at a similar interval, making it worthwhile to replace 'em yourself except these days the cards are worth a lot less than they used to be... your call.
 

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Don't forget the whole corporate espionage and stolen electrolyte capacitor formula that caused a TON of bad caps to be made about a year or two ago. It reads like a novel but its a true story. If you have a bunch of bluescreens etc, Look at the tops of your caps to be bulged and brown stuff leaked out the top or bottom, then you got part of the bad cap batch. It wasn't just abit and it wasn't just video cards, a lot of motherboards got the bad caps as well. Google it and you'll find detail and pics.
 

mindless1

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For the most part, the cap failures on the TI4200 cards didn't show any outward visable signs, unlike those in power supplies, motherboards, etc. If you see a failed cap you know for sure, but otherwise the checkerboard pattern is telling by itself. However, I was once able to replicate the checkerboard on a normally working card under a very specific environment, one system in particular, if it went into power saving/sleep mode while running a Spiderman Screensaver (dont' even know where it came from), when the system awoke it had the checkerboard though never under any other situation... for whatever that's worth, I suppose you have to consider whether the checkerboard only occurs in one specific situation, one "game", contrasted with same situations where it previously worked fine.