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overclock

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Originally posted by: docinthebox
Market cap of Intel: $133 billion
Market cap of AMD: $2 billion

This about sums up the situation. Think about how many engineers Intel can hire, vs. AMD. This equates to how many concurrent projects each side can invest on at any one time, and how fast each side can develop a new technology.

Market cap has nothing to do with how many engineers a company can hire. It just means that Intel's stock is worth more and they have more shares outstanding than AMD. You need to look at the statement of cash flows and the balance sheet to determine how much cash a company has to hire people, not market cap.
 

wviperw

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Sweet! This pricedrop happened at JUST the right time since I'm planning to buy this processor either today or tomorrow.
 

docinthebox

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Originally posted by: overclock
Originally posted by: docinthebox
Market cap of Intel: $133 billion
Market cap of AMD: $2 billion

This about sums up the situation. Think about how many engineers Intel can hire, vs. AMD. This equates to how many concurrent projects each side can invest on at any one time, and how fast each side can develop a new technology.

Market cap has nothing to do with how many engineers a company can hire. It just means that Intel's stock is worth more and they have more shares outstanding than AMD. You need to look at the statement of cash flows and the balance sheet to determine how much cash a company has to hire people, not market cap.

Sure it's not precise in accountants' standards. My point was just to indicate roughly how much bigger Intel is vs. AMD. I thought about including all the profit, revenue etc. data from Yahoo Financial but thought that would just bore everyone to tears. I think no one would disagree that a company with market cap 60 times bigger would hire more engineers.

 

batorok

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Just to back up docinthebox, here's intel's financials. Generally intel's gross profit has been steady at 3.5 BILLION (insert Dr. Evil voice here) dollars a quarter, and have over 9 BILLION in cash, while AMD is losing money.

I'm no intel fan, I've been following AMD, and using their processors, since the K6, and I'm amazed how much of that time they've been losing money and yet are still in business. I'd like for them to succeed, but I really doubt the opteron/athlon 64 is going to do it for them.

From what I recall of recent history, AMD's main cpu architecht/engineer was hired by someone else (sun?) just as the design for the athlon successor was being started, and they had to scrap the real successor to athlon and go for the 64 bit extensions because of the loss of that engineer...
 

v3rrv3

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Well, so far I've had 1 Intel system and 3 AMD systems, I love my AMD, I'll happily stick with them. I've actually got the 2500+ right now and I love it, even when I hit 3200+ speeds :p

- Kevin
 

Macro2

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RE:"No you didn't. You also didn't mention it costs FOUR times as much ast the famous 1700+ T-Bred B"

When something is in "" quotes it's quoting someone else. When they put RE: in front it means Reference...as is referencing anothe post. I didn't post what you thought I did.
 

kof

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God !!
Mod lock!!
But - as far as mashing 2@ 1700's together - some peeps have had success getiing an AMD dually MB and putting 2 XP1700's in them, plus oc'ing the 1700's to 2200 or even 2400. Thus a 4Ghz plus machine for a duallie AMD motherboard price.
Intel duallies are expensive. I know, I help oversee a few hundred, and have bought about 10 lately.
 

RideFree

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You know that the DOJ would be all over Intel if they burried AMD. Intel is sitting right where it wants to be...King-Of-The-Hill:D except to us AMD bottom feeders. Hey! I'm one of them, as I know how to analyze the cost of diminishing returns. On this front, AMD is King.

Seriously, I believe that Intel will just lean the chair backwards and reach over onto a shelf loaded with goodies and pull out the perfect answer to the Opteron (big or little). Just the right thing to keep AMD in their place...never quite able to grab the brass ring.
Market cap of Intel: $133 billion
Market cap of AMD $2 Billion
Makes for quite the disparity in the area of R&D, doesn't it?:D:D:D