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i tested them at SPD.

i think aggressive timing is about as useful heatspreaders. 😉

*edit* pics:

just run through the review for some shots of the winbond chip and so on...

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Damn it's going quick. I'm almost tempted to pick up a gig of this even though I've got a gig of HyperX PC3500 getting here tomorrow. I wish there were a few reviews of it though.
 
Originally posted by: GideonX
i tested them at SPD.

i think aggressive timing is about as useful heatspreaders. 😉

*edit* pics:

just run through the review for some shots of the winbond chip and so on...

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Just to clarify you actually tested them at 3 3 3 7? Thanks.

 
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: GideonX
i tested them at SPD.

i think aggressive timing is about as useful heatspreaders. 😉

*edit* pics:

just run through the review for some shots of the winbond chip and so on...

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Just to clarify you actually tested them at 3 3 3 7? Thanks.
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yup, SPD.
 
Same brand, just a higher rated chip. I don't know if it's 3500 that's been overclocked though. Maybe Gideon can chime in here.

 
the module i received was just higher rated, same chips.

no voltage adjustments, all stock.

here's an updated bench at 2.5,3,3,6 (scroll to the bottom to see pic, i can't link pictures directly):

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it still performed better than what it was rated at, but benched lower than speeds while using SPD settings.
 
We are here to see if this module can really reach PC3500 ratings and perform reliably, not beat it senseless
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That is just a stupid comment, I think a stress testing it is good because it shows how really reliable the ram is. All that reviewer did was guaruntee it runs at a speed that you paid for, no one cares about that. Its how much extra u can get out of the ram. Anyways when did 2.5 3 3 6 become aggressive timings? 2 - 2 - 2 - 6 is agressive IMHO. Anyone test this ram out at PC3200 and 2-2-2-6 timings or even 2-3-3-6?

Heh I just realized who the reviewer was for that ram...... even still
 
mmmm...i usually though anything faster than the manufacturers stated speed was aggressive, or maybe better put, tuned/tweaked/whatever.

even at faster settings, it made minimal progress in benches. which is why i said earlier, it makes about as much much sense as putting heatspreaders on your ram 😉
 
Is there a thread or a place on the internet where one can go and compare different PC3500/PC3200 chips? I am interested in how these perform compared to others.
 
Hmm, very tempting. I was planning on getting another 512 meg stick of Twinmos w/Winbond chips to do dual channel ddr, but this is also tempting. I know it's important to keep the sticks matched, but isn't this basically the same thing?
 
I am pairing this with 2 kingston 256 pc3200 chips for 1gig of dual ddr. I am guessing that I will have no problems but that remains to be seen.
 
csaddict - How do you plan to get Dual-Channel DDR out of 3 sticks of RAM? You can only use two slots for DC DDR.

On a side note, has anyone yet confirmed that these sticks of RAM are in fact stable in dual-channel mode on an nForce2 board? I have an MSI nForce2 board and am desperately looking for an affordable (read: not corsair or twinmos) Dual-Channel 1GB solution. If these will work I am all over this.
 
Originally posted by: Solema
csaddict - How do you plan to get Dual-Channel DDR out of 3 sticks of RAM? You can only use two slots for DC DDR.

On a side note, has anyone yet confirmed that these sticks of RAM are in fact stable in dual-channel mode on an nForce2 board? I have an MSI nForce2 board and am desperately looking for an affordable (read: not corsair or twinmos) Dual-Channel 1GB solution. If these will work I am all over this.
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You can use 3 sticks and get dual channel. The dual channel is from using both channels of memory. 2 slots are one channel and the 3rd is the other. you have to match the amounts of memory in each channel though. so I have 2 256mb sticks in one and 1 512mb stick in the other.

Ripped from a post at 8rdafaq.com

3 sticks work as well
however there is one drawback:
you have 3 slots for 2 channels.
slot 1&2 = channel 1
slot 3 = channel 2

if the amount of memory in one channel is bigger then in the other channel, only the amount of memory in teh smaller channel times two is run in twinbank mode (128bit). the remaining ram is run in 64bit mode.

example:
slot 1&2 have a 512MB module in each slot:
channel 1 = 1024 MB
slot 3 has a 512MB module as well:
channel 2 = 512MB

channel 2 has only 512mb of ram *2 = 1024 in 128bit mode, the remaing 512mb of channel 1 are run in 64 bit.

example 2
slot 1&2 have a 128MB module in each slot:
channel 1 = 256 MB
slot 3 has a 512MB module :
channel 2 = 512MB

channel 1 has only 256mb of ram *2 = 512 in 128bit mode, the remaing 256mb of channel 2 are run in 64 bit.

example 3:
slot 1&2 have a 256MB module in each slot:
channel 1 = 512 MB
slot 3 has a 512MB module:
channel 2 = 512MB

channel 2 and channel 1 have the same amount of memory so the whole ram is in 128bit mode.

example 4
slot 1 has a 512MB module, slot 2 is empty
channel 1 = 512MB
slot 3 has a 512MB module:
channel 2 = 512MB

channel 2 and channel 1 have the same amount of memory (1GB) so the whole ram is in 128bit mode.
 
Coolness! Thanks for the info csaddict! I already have 3 sticks of PC2100 crucial (3x256MB) so in order to at least run Dual-Channel at PC2100 I only need one 512MB stick of PC2100 for the second channel? Awesome!
 
mmmm...i usually though anything faster than the manufacturers stated speed was aggressive, or maybe better put, tuned/tweaked/whatever.

even at faster settings, it made minimal progress in benches. which is why i said earlier, it makes about as much much sense as putting heatspreaders on your ram
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So you have run them at cas2 stable? Thas all I needed to know cause from what I know you need cas2 to run dual channel due to the agressive timings on the bus. Of course i may be wrong... But yes you do have a point as far as performance increases between timing settings.
 
Originally posted by: beatle
Hmm, very tempting. I was planning on getting another 512 meg stick of Twinmos w/Winbond chips to do dual channel ddr, but this is also tempting. I know it's important to keep the sticks matched, but isn't this basically the same thing?
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I think it is and I went for it, ordered today. But ya never know for sure til you try.
 
Originally posted by: lupohki
My 2 sticks of pc3200 are showing as pc2700 in cpu-z. Anyone else?

edit: It has winbond bh-5 chips.
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Not hot if this is true! I'd like to know of it's true so I can cancel my order.
 
Originally posted by: soundforbjt
Originally posted by: lupohki My 2 sticks of pc3200 are showing as pc2700 in cpu-z. Anyone else? edit: It has winbond bh-5 chips.
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Not hot if this is true! I'd like to know of it's true so I can cancel my order.
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Don't mind that; even Corsair's PC3200 shows up as PC2700 in CPU-Z. Winbond's BH-5 chips are rated for 400MHz operation, so there is no need to worry.
 
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