Newb HT question: DTS > DD ???

I have no clue. Most DVDs seem to default to DD. What's the difference? I think I understand DTS is much better but why? My stuff supports it but right now I only have four speakers (two front, two surround).
 

Goosemaster

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Yes, DTS is better TECHNICALLY, but in the end, it depends on the audio guy.

I have heard "FANTASTIC" DTS scores, and "meh" ones.
 

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Without a center channel, you are not hearing the voices..ie..it should sound "weird" and muffled"



DTS is 32bit If i remember correctly, and DD is less than that
 

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if the DVD supports DTS I'll play it in DTS but most of the DVDs i have are only Dolby Digital
 

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Yes, DTS is better TECHNICALLY, but in the end, it depends on the audio guy.

I have heard "FANTASTIC" DTS scores, and "meh" ones.
Not only that... But I think 98%+ of the population couldn't tell the difference... And half of the other 2% is lying. ;)

(I know that I can't tell the difference.)

 

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Without a center channel, you are not hearing the voices..ie..it should sound "weird" and muffled"
No. I have my receiver setup for four speakers so it compensates by putting the voices on the left & right speakers.
 

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Some DVD's, like Jurassic Park, have two versions: One with DD, and one with DTS. The DTS version had to have an extra disc because DTS encoding takes more space on the movie disc.
 

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Yes, DTS is better TECHNICALLY, but in the end, it depends on the audio guy.

I have heard "FANTASTIC" DTS scores, and "meh" ones.
Not only that... But I think 98%+ of the population couldn't tell the difference... And half of the other 2% is lying. ;)

(I know that I can't tell the difference.)


It depends. I saw Catch you can in DTS and when I switched to DD I could tell the difference. I my setup isn't that bad: mirage speakers; Onkyo Reciever; Athena sub

The same goes for "the Piano." WIth DTS the sound felt more realistic/detailed.
 

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Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Without a center channel, you are not hearing the voices..ie..it should sound "weird" and muffled"
No. I have my receiver setup for four speakers so it compensates by putting the voices on the left & right speakers.

Dolby Surround?
 

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DTS decodes to 20bit, DD only 16.

4 channel isn't "Dolby Surround". I assume you're thinking of the old Pro-Logic, which 3 channel front (L+R+Center) and mono rear. Dolby Digital can be many variations on that, but mainly 5.1 (stereo rear+ sub).

Yes, you can do 4.0- I do 5.0 myself because I live in an apartment (no sub, bass out the fronts). I suggest you at least get a center speaker. Makes a big difference.
 

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Without a center channel, you are not hearing the voices..ie..it should sound "weird" and muffled"
No. I have my receiver setup for four speakers so it compensates by putting the voices on the left & right speakers.

Dolby Surround?
No clue :( I think I better get a center speaker soon.

 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Wag
DTS decodes to 20bit, DD only 16.

4 channel isn't "Dolby Surround". I assume you're thinking of the old Pro-Logic, which 3 channel front (L+R+Center) and mono rear. Dolby Digital can be many variations on that, but mainly 5.1 (stereo rear+ sub).

Yes, you can do 4.0- I do 5.0 myself because I live in an apartment (no sub, bass out the fronts). I suggest you at least get a center speaker. Makes a big difference.

Yeah, I was just trying to guess what he meant by "compensates by putting the voices on the left & right speakers"


Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Without a center channel, you are not hearing the voices..ie..it should sound "weird" and muffled"
No. I have my receiver setup for four speakers so it compensates by putting the voices on the left & right speakers.

Dolby Surround?
No clue :( I think I better get a center speaker soon.

Yeah. I would set your system to stereo right now, or one of the random DSP modes. YOur system, if configured properly --set your available speakers active and set all other channels to "No speaker"-- and your should be fine.


I have a 6.1 Reciever and am only using 5.1 speakers:D

The systems DSP will adjust for however many speakers you have. That is what it's for :cool:
 

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Don't know what receiver you have, but you ought to be able to set up a phantom center. Perhaps you have.

As was said early on, DTS is theoretically superior, BUT theory and execution are two different things. Most of the time I select DTS, but sometimes the Dolby Digital works better, because it was better handled in production.
 

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Don't know what receiver you have, but you ought to be able to set up a phantom center. Perhaps you have.

As was said early on, DTS is theoretically superior, BUT theory and execution are two different things. Most of the time I select DTS, but sometimes the Dolby Digital works better, because it was better handled in production.

Exactly. :D
 

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
If you're watching Band of Brothers, DTS >>>>> DD!!!
That's funny, because that's just the DVD I was watching when this question came to mind.
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Don't know what receiver you have, but you ought to be able to set up a phantom center. Perhaps you have.
I have a Onkyo TX-SR601 and set it up as having four speakers. I guess I will look for a decent center speaker next. Anyone have any suggestions? All my other speakers are Paradigm Atoms.
 

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I would recommend getting the Paradigm CC-170. You obviously are around a place that has access to that center. I applaud your choice of speakers.
 

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
If you're watching Band of Brothers, DTS >>>>> DD!!!
That's the DVD in which I compared DTS and DD... Couldn't tell the difference. *shrugs*
 

Picked up the CC-170 today, worth every penny. Watching BoB in DTS and it's a whole difference experience from tiny TV speakers.
 

BornStar

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Paradigm makes such awesome speakers. I recently talked my dad into the CC-370 and the Monitor 9s. They sound great. We looked at the CC-170 too and it sounded great too. Congrats on the new center. I wish I had some money to get better stuff for my living room.

Incidentally, you may want to look at a sub with the Atoms. Nothing too massive but something to fill out the bottom end a little. If you're living in an apartment, I would recommend getting front firing too. Just something to think about.
 

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On paper, DTS is technically a more robust format because of less compression, but in practice both DTS and DD sound almost identical. DTS is usually mastered a few DB louder which gives the impression that it is "better."

Take a DTS and DD track, then play them at the same volume, and you will be hard pressed to find someone who can tell them apart.

I was considering Paradigm speakers but ended up choosing Ascend CBM-170s instead. I like :)
 

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I usually will choose the DTS track if it is available. If not, I do not mind DD.

In fact some of the discs that I use for demo purposes contain DD tracks: Matrix Reloaded, T3, Finding Nemo, SW.