New York Times: Donald Trump reports $916 million loss in 1995

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Lifer
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Did amazon have nols?

Dude your excuse making is sad. Trump criticized Amazon for paying hundreds of millions while he personally paid nothing for likely 2 decades. He's easily the most obvious hypocrite and liar to run for POTUS, which is saying a lot, and worst he inherited most of his success. Worst kind of douchebag and you've been duped by him. Sad.
 

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LegendKiller said:
So he lost money. Wow. Nobody has ever done that.

What's hilarious is that you'll hammer him but are fine with hillary losing 6bn while in charge of the state dept. Or starting middle east wars for tens of billions or costing hundreds of billions from the migrant crisis from the wars.

If you wanna start running a ledger to see who has cost us taxpayers more we can do that.

We can easily run a ledger cause all that bullshit you just spouted can be dismissed given none of it is true. So tally of ledger now says this; Trump avoided many millions in taxes for being a terrible businessman. No one is shocked, everyone but his koolaid sippers knew he was a silver spooned turd.
 

flexy

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Here we have, OVER, and OVER, and OVER, and OVER again

the best example for the "establishment", those folks who bleed the society out at cost of the little man, for personal enrichment.

The irony is that despite the evidence which cannot be more obvious (it's not only THIS incident of his tax evasion), people are so retarded and support exactly this man BECAUSE and DESPITE they are taken advantage of, in hopes that he (from all people!) will change to the better "for the little man".

He really *is* and best symbolizes the problem America has today, with the poor and lower-/middle class struggling, BECAUSE of people like him. It cannot get more absurd. Why don't people get this?
 

fskimospy

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So he lost money. Wow. Nobody has ever done that.

What's hilarious is that you'll hammer him but are fine with hillary losing 6bn while in charge of the state dept. Or starting middle east wars for tens of billions or costing hundreds of billions from the migrant crisis from the wars.

If you wanna start running a ledger to see who has cost us taxpayers more we can do that.

Trump supported all those things, lol.

I just find it amusing that he's running on his business record and it sure looks like he doesn't want to release his tax returns because he has gone long stretches of time without paying income taxes due to all the money he was losing in business.

This guy just keeps getting more and more pathetic. It's also awesome that it seems likely some people in his staff hate him so much they are trying to torpedo him.
 
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Trump supported all those things, lol.

I just find it amusing that he's running on his business record and it sure looks like he doesn't want to release his tax returns because he has gone long stretches of time without paying income taxes due to all the money he was losing in business.

This guy just keeps getting more and more pathetic. It's also awesome that it seems likely some people in his staff hate him so much they are trying to torpedo him.
Last I checked trump was not privy to intelligence, nor did he actually vote to put us at war with half the middle east and sponsor the muslim brotherhood. That rests solely with hillary and the current administration. What private individuals do pales in comparison. She failed, epically.
 

zinfamous

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Last I checked trump was not privy to intelligence, nor did he actually vote to put us at war with half the middle east and sponsor the muslim brotherhood. That rests solely with hillary and the current administration. What private individuals do pales in comparison. She failed, epically.

Trump lost a billion dollars of other people's money purely on his own, singular incompetence. This isn't a hedge fund of dozens of managers running and losing many billions of hundreds of people's money--this is one guy, with his own consistent failure, failing to succeed in business over and over and over and over and over again.

And you in your profound idiocy want to give him command of the vast wealth of the US to lose far greater sums of money for far more disastrous pursuits. You already know that is exactly what would happen. Is your goal to see if he can set some of record for incompetence?
 
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fskimospy

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Last I checked trump was not privy to intelligence, nor did he actually vote to put us at war with half the middle east and sponsor the muslim brotherhood. That rests solely with hillary and the current administration. What private individuals do pales in comparison. She failed, epically.

The obvious falsity of what you said aside, you just admitted that your guy supported the same 'mistakes' that you're complaining about.

Seems like Mark Cuban pegged Trump pretty perfectly. He won't release his taxes because he's scared they will show how incompetent he is. Sad!

By the way have you been enjoying his meltdown at the miss universe lady as much as I have been? The guy appears to have become totally unhinged and is just incoherently ranting at this point. Can you imagine someone this unstable as the president? I wouldn't want him president of my co-op board.
 

amenx

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So he lost money. Wow. Nobody has ever done that.
The point is his portrayal of himself as a 'winner' and successful businessman. A carefully crafted image that he completely relies on to fool/lure voters that this will translate into successful governance of the country.
 

VRAMdemon

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While this shows Trump is probably a shitty businessman along with being an extremely immature person, I cannot blame Trump on this one. He did not write the laws that allowed for this abuse and given the opportunity to legally massively benefit from such laws. There's nothing wrong, as a private citizen, with Trump's availing himself of the breaks that the tax code makes available.Sad is it may be.

Now if his campaign had included identifying those laws as a problem and releasing his returns as a cogent illustration of what is allowed and should not be ...all might be good. But his tax plan includes nothing of the sort.

If you want to have a huge tax credit, buy a business, trash it, and sell it at loss. Or buy some really risky real estate, and sell that at a loss. Otherwise, it's just a matter of degrees. Or, to put it differently: If you suddenly realizes you could take a write-off that would allow you to pay no taxes (and it was totally legit) would you take it or not?

Loss carry-forward has been on the books for a long time. If there was proof that Trump personally had to lobby to keep it on the books, that might be interesting. Otherwise, not so much. This won't hurt him in the long run IMO. He's going to get hurt much more by late night tweets about "fat chicks".
 
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While this shows Trump is probably a shitty businessman along with being an extremely immature person, I cannot blame Trump on this one. He did not write the laws that allowed for this abuse and given the opportunity to legally massively benefit from such laws. There's nothing wrong, as a private citizen, with Trump's availing himself of the breaks that the tax code makes available.Sad is it may be.

Now if his campaign had included identifying those laws as a problem and releasing his returns as a cogent illustration of what is allowed and should not be ...all might be good. But his tax plan includes nothing of the sort.

If you want to have a huge tax credit, buy a business, trash it, and sell it at loss. Or buy some really risky real estate, and sell that at a loss. Otherwise, it's just a matter of degrees. Or, to put it differently: If you suddenly realizes you could take a write-off that would allow you to pay no taxes (and it was totally legit) would you take it or not?

Loss carry-forward has been on the books for a long time. If there was proof that Trump personally had to lobby to keep it on the books, that might be interesting. Otherwise, not so much. This won't hurt him in the long run IMO. He's going to get hurt much more by late night tweets about "fat chicks".
Trump has spent a lot of time trashing people for not paying what he felt was their fair share of taxes. He has gone after many businesses very publicly for paying taxes but not enough in his eyes. He's also threatened businesses with retribution due to taxes.

Then suddenly it becomes more and more obvious he doesn't pay any himself. No skin in the game while trashing millions of other people just scraping by for not paying anything.

I think this may be more damaging to him than you are willing to acknowledge.
 

LegendKiller

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The point is his portrayal of himself as a 'winner' and successful businessman. A carefully crafted image that he completely relies on to fool/lure voters that this will translate into successful governance of the country.
All winner businessmen have had failures. Show me one thst hasn't and I'll eat my hat.
 

brycejones

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Dude your excuse making is sad. Trump criticized Amazon for paying hundreds of millions while he personally paid nothing for likely 2 decades. He's easily the most obvious hypocrite and liar to run for POTUS, which is saying a lot, and worst he inherited most of his success. Worst kind of douchebag and you've been duped by him. Sad.

LK will never be able to face how suckered he has been. His ego wouldn't be able to handle it. So telling him he is wrong and showing him how is pretty useless at this point. He is aboard the SS Trump till the end. Even as the ship sinks he'll still be talking about how great and unsinkable it is.
 

Jhhnn

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Last I checked trump was not privy to intelligence, nor did he actually vote to put us at war with half the middle east and sponsor the muslim brotherhood. That rests solely with hillary and the current administration. What private individuals do pales in comparison. She failed, epically.

I love the way you quote another poster & then jump shift in your reply to something completely unrelated.

Whatever it takes to enter the bunker o' denial.
 

ivwshane

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While this shows Trump is probably a shitty businessman along with being an extremely immature person, I cannot blame Trump on this one. He did not write the laws that allowed for this abuse and given the opportunity to legally massively benefit from such laws. There's nothing wrong, as a private citizen, with Trump's availing himself of the breaks that the tax code makes available.Sad is it may be.

Now if his campaign had included identifying those laws as a problem and releasing his returns as a cogent illustration of what is allowed and should not be ...all might be good. But his tax plan includes nothing of the sort.

If you want to have a huge tax credit, buy a business, trash it, and sell it at loss. Or buy some really risky real estate, and sell that at a loss. Otherwise, it's just a matter of degrees. Or, to put it differently: If you suddenly realizes you could take a write-off that would allow you to pay no taxes (and it was totally legit) would you take it or not?

Loss carry-forward has been on the books for a long time. If there was proof that Trump personally had to lobby to keep it on the books, that might be interesting. Otherwise, not so much. This won't hurt him in the long run IMO. He's going to get hurt much more by late night tweets about "fat chicks".

Nothing will hurt him, that's not his problem. His problem is that this won't grow his base, this won't get out the votes for him, this won't woo undecided voters and that is his problem.

This tax return doesn't do much for the already known issue of the rich not paying their fair share in taxes. This won't do much for the issue of a broken tax system. What this latest revelation does do is highlight trumps poor business acumen and for me it further highlights trumps hypocrisy. You see when other rich people weren't paying their fair share of taxes, trump wasn't calling them smart, he wasn't highlighting the broken tax code, he wasn't talking about how these low tax payers were hurting your average Americans, no, instead was talking shit about how these people don't pay enough in taxes.

You won't ever change the mind of a brain dead cult follower like legendkiller. As you can see, lk can justify anything. But hopefully things like this, as more of it comes to light, will cause those who aren't planning on voting or who think voting a third party is ok in this election, will realize not voting for Clinton and allowing trump to still be in it is no longer acceptable, and they decide to come out and vote for Hillary.
 

zinfamous

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All winner businessmen have had failures. Show me one thst hasn't and I'll eat my hat.

show me one that has failed this massively, so consistently, while also calling themselves the "best winner that has ever won everything!"

You keep ignoring this obvious point, I think it makes you uncomfortable to accept that this dude just lies to your face and you eat it up. I'd wager that you're the type to work under him, doe-eyed every day, while he shits in your mouth and you beg for more.
 

zinfamous

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LK will never be able to face how suckered he has been. His ego wouldn't be able to handle it. So telling him he is wrong and showing him how is pretty useless at this point. He is aboard the SS Trump till the end. Even as the ship sinks he'll still be talking about how great and unsinkable it is.

LegendKiller in his former job:

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Lol, this is the so called genius businessman who is going to save America's middle class? People are so desperate for someone to save them that they'll just blow this off as well.

Well did he break any laws?

I think there should be more outrage over the $6 billion that is missing from the state department during Hillary's tenure.
 

WHAMPOM

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Yeah, they need everything they can get because people like hillary have shipped all of the good jobs overseas.
Please give proper credit to Reagan, Bush #1, Bush #2 And the Republican Majority Congress in between. Need I add the $Trillions$ in easily avoided national debt also?
 

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Lifer
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LK will never be able to face how suckered he has been. His ego wouldn't be able to handle it. So telling him he is wrong and showing him how is pretty useless at this point. He is aboard the SS Trump till the end. Even as the ship sinks he'll still be talking about how great and unsinkable it is.

Well I still feel bad for people fooled by such an obvious con man, especially when they pretend HRC, or frankly any other candidate that has ever lived, can compare to the dumpster fire that is Trump and his his business record. No other well known billionaire fails as big or as frequently as Trump, that's for sure documented fact. But those claiming Trump has the temperament, saying like they'd let Trump manage anything at all important in their lives, I'd just like to give my condolences to you and your family for being so easily duped.
 

MongGrel

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All winner businessmen have had failures. Show me one thst hasn't and I'll eat my hat.

Trump is not a businessman.

He is an annoying late night telemarketer who was born with money and an established wall of CPA's and Lawyers to shield him over time.
 

zinfamous

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Well did he break any laws?

I think there should be more outrage over the $6 billion that is missing from the state department during Hillary's tenure.

spending $68k in Cuba?

Yeah, that's a rpetty serious law that he broke.

But this tax loophole isn't about breaking laws--it's about him wanting even more loopholes when he doesn't even pay taxes, all the while crowing about "Deadbeats" that don't pay nearly enough taxes.

It's about Trump being a barely-ambulatory Superfund site. He is an piece of shit wearing human skin--bringing his duped followers along for the brush fire.
 

fskimospy

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Well did he break any laws?

I think there should be more outrage over the $6 billion that is missing from the state department during Hillary's tenure.

Nobody is saying he broke any laws, they are just saying this shows pretty clearly why he's so desperate to keep his taxes hidden. This is showing both catastrophic business incompetence AND that he has paid almost nothing in taxes for some years at least while he whines about other businesses not paying enough.

Being outed as an incompetent hypocrite isn't exactly a great news day, haha.