New York Sucks

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511


21 over is 6 points in NYS, hence the lumping in to that category.

Really? That's extreme. New yorkers drive like douches also. I bet the state makes a ton of money...

 

[waggy]

i remember reading how one state was trying to impose a "assement" fee of $1200 for any speeding ticket. it was something like $120 a year every year for 10 years.


there was a big argument and lawsuits over it. not sure if it got passed

 

[runzwithsizorz]

Originally posted by: waggy
i remember reading how one state was trying to impose a "assement" fee of $1200 for any speeding ticket. it was something like $120 a year every year for 10 years.


there was a big argument and lawsuits over it. not sure if it got passed

You must be talking about my state, Va. The only state where it's against the law to live, if you choose to do so, you can, and will be fined! It was passed, but had to be rescinded a few months later, (that damn pesky constitution). They now just go door to door and take the first male child. Seems to be working for them, their claiming imminent domain.
BTW, the guy who wrote the law owned a huge law firm that defended people who broke it.
Be afraid, be very afraid, change is a coming.

 

[DrPizza]

Thank you for helping my state's economy.

Oh, and, yes - you're apparently an unsafe driver. You're oblivious to road hazards - the most obvious being the trooper sitting right where the speed limit changes from 65 to 55. What kind of an inexperienced driver doesn't realize that those spots are the best speed traps? And, in NY, when the speed limit changes from 65 to 55, there's a sign in advance warning you it's about to go down, and most of them (all?) also have bright orange markers at the top of the first 55mph sign, signaling to anyone oblivious of the previous sign that it's now a different speed zone. (And, the sign is on both sides of the road - the "I was alongside a semi and didn't see it" excuse isn't valid.)

p.s. if you're going 76 in a 65 in my area on the interstate, you WILL be ticketed. So it wasn't unfair that you were pulled over in the first place. Could have been worse - you could have been in Virginia.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Quintox
NY is having tough economic times and needs some cash is my guess.

Yup...

I wouldn't pay it. If it comes to bite you in the ass, claim you never got the bill.

Sure, that defense always work when it comes to the court system.

 

[child of wonder]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
Thank you for helping my state's economy.

Oh, and, yes - you're apparently an unsafe driver. You're oblivious to road hazards - the most obvious being the trooper sitting right where the speed limit changes from 65 to 55. What kind of an inexperienced driver doesn't realize that those spots are the best speed traps? And, in NY, when the speed limit changes from 65 to 55, there's a sign in advance warning you it's about to go down, and most of them (all?) also have bright orange markers at the top of the first 55mph sign, signaling to anyone oblivious of the previous sign that it's now a different speed zone. (And, the sign is on both sides of the road - the "I was alongside a semi and didn't see it" excuse isn't valid.)

p.s. if you're going 76 in a 65 in my area on the interstate, you WILL be ticketed. So it wasn't unfair that you were pulled over in the first place. Could have been worse - you could have been in Virginia.

Ah... there's the righteous indignation I've come to expect from ATOT.

Well played.

 

[Epic Fail]

Who must pay a driver responsibility assessment?

You must pay the driver responsibility assessment if any of the following incidents occur:

* you are convicted of an alcohol-related traffic violation and the violation occurred in NYS on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
* you are convicted of a drug-related traffic violation and the violation occurred in NYS on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
* a DMV hearing determines that you refused a chemical test and the refusal occurred in NYS on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
* you receive six or more points on your NYS driver record during a period of 18 months and the violations occurred in NYS, Quebec or Ontario on or after November 18, 2004.

Sounds like you are not telling us more about the ticket or there was a clerical error.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Wow that's retarded. I'd get a lawyer to see what you can do, but probably not worth it for 300 bucks.

You're correct. And that's exactly why New York sucks sweaty mongoose balls and can kiss my ass. It's NOT worth hiring a lawyer (as you stated). But the State of NY knows this already. And they went right ahead and passed this fancy new law full well KNOWING there'd be, oh, 42,072 people that will know that's it's "not worth hiring a lawyer" and just pay the fine...AGAIN. :roll:

You are an evil driver and a danger to everyone on the road. Blah, blah fucking blahdedeblah. :roll: You were driving 21 (OMFG..TWENTYONE!!!!!111!!!!!) MPH over the speed limit! YOu could've killed an endangered (insert lifeform here) or been driving through a "deaf persons crossing here" or running thru a "rockslide can happen here...slow down!" zone. Etc, etc. etc, etc. It's all your fault. /sarcasm

I fucking hate New York with every sinew in my body.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Epic Fail

Who must pay a driver responsibility assessment?

You must pay the driver responsibility assessment if any of the following incidents occur:

* you are convicted of an alcohol-related traffic violation and the violation occurred in NYS on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
* you are convicted of a drug-related traffic violation and the violation occurred in NYS on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
* a DMV hearing determines that you refused a chemical test and the refusal occurred in NYS on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
* you receive six or more points on your NYS driver record during a period of 18 months and the violations occurred in NYS, Quebec or Ontario on or after November 18, 2004.

Sounds like you are not telling us more about the ticket or there was a clerical error.

How is there a clerical error? He got a 6 point ticket after 11/18/2004.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: child of wonder

Originally posted by: DrPizza
Thank you for helping my state's economy.

Oh, and, yes - you're apparently an unsafe driver. You're oblivious to road hazards - the most obvious being the trooper sitting right where the speed limit changes from 65 to 55. What kind of an inexperienced driver doesn't realize that those spots are the best speed traps? And, in NY, when the speed limit changes from 65 to 55, there's a sign in advance warning you it's about to go down, and most of them (all?) also have bright orange markers at the top of the first 55mph sign, signaling to anyone oblivious of the previous sign that it's now a different speed zone. (And, the sign is on both sides of the road - the "I was alongside a semi and didn't see it" excuse isn't valid.)

p.s. if you're going 76 in a 65 in my area on the interstate, you WILL be ticketed. So it wasn't unfair that you were pulled over in the first place. Could have been worse - you could have been in Virginia.

Ah... there's the righteous indignation I've come to expect from ATOT.

Well played.

meh, I was able to resist at first, but I was in a bad mood. 😛

 

[Epic Fail]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Epic Fail

Who must pay a driver responsibility assessment?

You must pay the driver responsibility assessment if any of the following incidents occur:

* you are convicted of an alcohol-related traffic violation and the violation occurred in NYS on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
* you are convicted of a drug-related traffic violation and the violation occurred in NYS on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
* a DMV hearing determines that you refused a chemical test and the refusal occurred in NYS on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
* you receive six or more points on your NYS driver record during a period of 18 months and the violations occurred in NYS, Quebec or Ontario on or after November 18, 2004.

Sounds like you are not telling us more about the ticket or there was a clerical error.

How is there a clerical error? He got a 6 point ticket after 11/18/2004.

You are right, OP's 21 mph over the limit was exactly where they start giving out 6 pts.

 

[mcveigh]

I just went to get my FL drivers license renewed and it wouldn't let me.
11 YEARS AGO!!!! I got a ticket in NC. I paid my fine, etc. well they apparently suspended my license at that time (even though I had a FL license) and I was supposed to pay an $50 fee to get it reinstated. no one told me....and how they hellcan you suspend a licenses I didn't have with them????

apparently FL and NC now talk thru a national database. To renew my FL license I had tocall NC, find out what the hell happened, pay $50 plus a $35 fee for a courier to get the payment to them just so I could renew my FL license.

 

[olds]

I am sure it's not but it sounds like double jeopardy.

 

[GregGreen]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: child of wonder

Originally posted by: DrPizza
Thank you for helping my state's economy.

Oh, and, yes - you're apparently an unsafe driver. You're oblivious to road hazards - the most obvious being the trooper sitting right where the speed limit changes from 65 to 55. What kind of an inexperienced driver doesn't realize that those spots are the best speed traps? And, in NY, when the speed limit changes from 65 to 55, there's a sign in advance warning you it's about to go down, and most of them (all?) also have bright orange markers at the top of the first 55mph sign, signaling to anyone oblivious of the previous sign that it's now a different speed zone. (And, the sign is on both sides of the road - the "I was alongside a semi and didn't see it" excuse isn't valid.)

p.s. if you're going 76 in a 65 in my area on the interstate, you WILL be ticketed. So it wasn't unfair that you were pulled over in the first place. Could have been worse - you could have been in Virginia.

Ah... there's the righteous indignation I've come to expect from ATOT.

Well played.

meh, I was able to resist at first, but I was in a bad mood. 😛

Thanks for posting this Dr P. It was exactly what I wanted to say but was far too lazy to write after looking up actual information on the DMV website

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
I am sure it's not but it sounds like double jeopardy.

I will take the rapist for 2000.

 

[polarbear6]

well this is why i love india practically no rules of traffic at all i have been driving a bike since 15 when the legal age is 18
i dont wear a helmet i always drive on the wrong side of the road, i always forget my driving licence, i never stop at the stop sign , i jump signals, i have practically broken every single rule
i never got pulled over i even did it before the traffic police they also dont give a damn, iam not the only one almost 100s and 100s of people do that stuff here in india , and even if we get caught we just throw a dollar or two on the traffic police and they let us go

I LOVE INDIA FOR THIS I LOVE IT I lOVE IT

 

[oiprocs]

Originally posted by: Colt45
Mail them a check postdated to four years from now. 😀



USD should be worthless by then anyhow 😉

Would this work? Would the bank not accept the check because it is written 4 years ahead? What happens if the teller doesn't check the date, or is that something they always do?

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Brainonska511


boohoo. I had to pay it when I got a ticket back in 2006. The fine is disclosed on the DMV's website - you get more than 6 points on your license at any time or a DUI, you're automatically placed on this program.

21mph over the speed limit isn't a 6 point offense.

Yes it is: http://www.nysdmv.com/license.htm#points

LOL what a fuckin joke! Hit and Run (property or animal) is only 3, but 21 over is 6? BAHAHAHAAH!

Silly blue state.

 

[Drako]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Brainonska511


boohoo. I had to pay it when I got a ticket back in 2006. The fine is disclosed on the DMV's website - you get more than 6 points on your license at any time or a DUI, you're automatically placed on this program.

21mph over the speed limit isn't a 6 point offense.

Yes it is: http://www.nysdmv.com/license.htm#points

LOL what a fuckin joke! Hit and Run (property or animal) is only 3, but 21 over is 6? BAHAHAHAAH!

Silly blue state.

LOL, that got me too.

And reckless driving is only 5 points. I'm glad I don't live in NY.

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: ganesh1
well this is why i love india practically no rules of traffic at all i have been driving a bike since 15 when the legal age is 18
i dont wear a helmet i always drive on the wrong side of the road, i always forget my driving licence, i never stop at the stop sign , i jump signals, i have practically broken every single rule
i never got pulled over i even did it before the traffic police they also dont give a damn, iam not the only one almost 100s and 100s of people do that stuff here in india , and even if we get caught we just throw a dollar or two on the traffic police and they let us go

I LOVE INDIA FOR THIS I LOVE IT I lOVE IT

Strong Criminal, lmao

 

[polarbear6]

as long as i dont get hurt ,i dont care so do the law,
and besides if im a criminal for that , so is the rest of the population here in india
i bet there is not even a single guy here who doesnt break traffic rules daily

 

[polarbear6]

as long as i dont get hurt ,i dont care so do the law,
and besides if im a criminal for that , so is the rest of the population here in india
i bet there is not even a single guy here who doesnt break traffic rules daily

hell thats why u dont see any indian drivers there in USA even though we constitute the majority of the immigrants (as far as i know and as far as i heard abt H1-B visas)
i wonder how indian taxi drivers get driving license there

 

[ultimatebob]

Yeah... I got one of those as well for doing 82 in a "55" zone. 55 my ass... all of the locals were doing 75. Best of all, the assessment was $300 a year for two years PLUS the $200 ticket... so they really get to screw ya.

Now I make a point to avoid New York whenever possible. If you're going to treat your visitors badly, you can rest assured that I'm not going to spend my vacation money there!

 

[Adam8281]

Yeah, if at all possible in the future I will avoid NY

 

[moshquerade]

i'm sure Paterson thought this one up too. next up, he wants to throw a tax on hospital bills, and the patient has to pay it.