New York Compliant AR-15

[John Connor]

Missouri-based gun manufacturer announced this week that it will release a line of “New York Compliant” rifles, a market-based response to the Empire State’s strict new gun laws. “With the continual trampling of the 2nd Amendment in New York, Black Rain Ordnance is proud to announce their ‘New York Compliant’ rifles,” the group said in a statement on its website. “These rifles feature all of the quality and craftsman ship of the standard BRO-lines, but with the added features that allow for legal possession.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...facturer-releases-a-new-york-compliant-ar-15/


So the gun has a none thread muzzle. Does this mean the bullets can't be traced or does the barrel still have threads before the muzzle. What's up with NY politicians saying an assault rifle can't have a threaded muzzle?

 

[Broheim]

So the gun has a none thread muzzle. Does this mean the bullets can't be traced or does the barrel still have threads before the muzzle. What's up with NY politicians saying an assault rifle can't have a threaded muzzle?

a threaded muzzle means just that... a threaded muzzle, it has threading for attaching flash hiders, compensators and suppressors.

 

[boomhower]

a threaded muzzle means just that... a threaded muzzle, it has threading for attaching flash hiders, compensators and suppressors.

Yep, threaded barrel. The barrel still has internal rifling, if it didn't it'd be useless pretty much. I don't see that handgrip turn stock staying legal for long.

 

[rudeguy]

Repost

 

[z1ggy]

OP knows nothing about firearms, lol.

 

[marvdmartian]

Yep, threaded barrel. The barrel still has internal rifling, if it didn't it'd be useless pretty much. I don't see that handgrip turn stock staying legal for long.

Actually, the ATF just recently came out and confirmed that it was perfectly legal to utilize an arm brace device on an AR-15 pistol, by placing it up against the shoulder, much as you would a regular shoulder stock on a rifle. So as long as it's otherwise legal to shoot in NY (which won't be much more than spitballs, before long, if King Andy has his way), you'd be good to go.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

OP knows nothing about firearms, lol.

Indeed. Somewhere, his mother Sarah is hanging her head in shame.

 

[Brian Stirling]

I guess the intent of the "no threaded muzzles" law is to prevent people from screwing on suppressors etc. The grip being morphed into the rest of the stock eliminates the evil pistol grip.

I'm pretty sure NY thinks this gun is MUCH safer now...

I do think the gun industry is crying now that Piers Morgan is gone .. he alone had to have resulted in upwards of a million new firearms being sold and with him gone they'll need someone to take his place. Who can that be????


Brian

 

[Scarpozzi]

I wonder how long it'll take NY gubment folks to figure out how they can make this one illegal too.

What always cracks me up is you can take an AR-15 and compare it to a semi-automatic hunting rifle....both with the same capacity, but the hunting rifle with a higher caliber round...yet, politicians try to ban the cool looking one.

 

[_Rick_]

Because a small caliber semi automatic rifle is one that isn't used for humane kill-shots, but instead for disabling/crippling shots at a medium distance, and with a high rate of fire with "good enough" precision.

One gun is designed to be used against groups of humans, the other is designed to be used against a single target, and deliver good single-shot accuracy at medium range.

While both could feasibly be used for the other application, there is an evident purpose to both designs.

 

[ultimatebob]

I wonder how long it'll take NY gubment folks to figure out how they can make this one illegal too.

What always cracks me up is you can take an AR-15 and compare it to a semi-automatic hunting rifle....both with the same capacity, but the hunting rifle with a higher caliber round...yet, politicians try to ban the cool looking one.

That's easy enough to do. Just add it to Feinstein's "evil gun" list, and the states will add it to theirs.

That's how my Beretta CX4 Storm ended up getting banned, even though the .45 model doesn't even have high capacity magazines.

Besides, this gun would still be illegal in Connecticut. ALL AR-15 variants are banned no matter what features they have. They would have to call it an AR-16 or something

 

[TerryMathews]

Because a small caliber semi automatic rifle is one that isn't used for humane kill-shots, but instead for disabling/crippling shots at a medium distance, and with a high rate of fire with "good enough" precision.

One gun is designed to be used against groups of humans, the other is designed to be used against a single target, and deliver good single-shot accuracy at medium range.

While both could feasibly be used for the other application, there is an evident purpose to both designs.

A lot of "hunting" rifles are based off the Mauser action. What do you think the Mauser was designed to kill?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gewehr_98

 

[jaha2000]

Because a small caliber semi automatic rifle is one that isn't used for humane kill-shots, but instead for disabling/crippling shots at a medium distance, and with a high rate of fire with "good enough" precision.

One gun is designed to be used against groups of humans, the other is designed to be used against a single target, and deliver good single-shot accuracy at medium range.

While both could feasibly be used for the other application, there is an evident purpose to both designs.

Your joking right?
So an AR-15 with a 16" barrel vs a Mini-14 with a 16" barrel has different accuracy ranges, rates of fire, and precision?
You do understand they they are indeed based on the exact same action, firing system, and function right? Comments like this are why guns like the AR get banned and other things dont.

 

[rudeguy]

Your joking right?
So an AR-15 with a 16" barrel vs a Mini-14 with a 16" barrel has different accuracy ranges, rates of fire, and precision?
You do understand they they are indeed based on the exact same action, firing system, and function right? Comments like this are why guns like the AR get banned and other things dont.

its best to just let the gun grabber idiots have these threads. Their ignorance is beyond repair and their contempt is beyond logic.

 

[_Rick_]

I was referring exclusively to the comment of the poster before me, citing "higher caliber round".
Of course, if you feed your AR with big rounds, it becomes unusable as an AR, because of the increased recoil, and thereby reduced accuracy at high rates of fire. There's a reason 7.62 no longer features in modern ARs as heavily as it used to.

 

[SP33Demon]

Fuck NY. Just move to Britain already, taxes are similar and most guns will be banned.

 

[momeNt]

Looking at that gun I'm scared and fear eminent bodily harm (aka I've been assaulted).

So it is still an assault rifle, and should be banned.

 

[waggy]

Because a small caliber semi automatic rifle is one that isn't used for humane kill-shots, but instead for disabling/crippling shots at a medium distance, and with a high rate of fire with "good enough" precision.

One gun is designed to be used against groups of humans, the other is designed to be used against a single target, and deliver good single-shot accuracy at medium range.

While both could feasibly be used for the other application, there is an evident purpose to both designs.

what? lol no.

anyway i actually like the looks of the "safer" gun. it looks kinda sleek and futuristic

 

[jaha2000]

Looking at that gun I'm scared and fear eminent bodily harm (aka I've been assaulted).

So it is still an assault rifle, and should be banned.

Is it fully automatic?

 

[mnewsham]

I like bolt action rifles personally and never really liked autos or semi autos anyway.

/shrug

 

[TerryMathews]

I was referring exclusively to the comment of the poster before me, citing "higher caliber round".
Of course, if you feed your AR with big rounds, it becomes unusable as an AR, because of the increased recoil, and thereby reduced accuracy at high rates of fire. There's a reason 7.62 no longer features in modern ARs as heavily as it used to.

Yeah. That reason is it got replaced by superior large caliber rounds like 300blk.

The AR has no issue with larger calibers.

 

[Brian Stirling]

Because a small caliber semi automatic rifle is one that isn't used for humane kill-shots, but instead for disabling/crippling shots at a medium distance, and with a high rate of fire with "good enough" precision.

One gun is designed to be used against groups of humans, the other is designed to be used against a single target, and deliver good single-shot accuracy at medium range.

While both could feasibly be used for the other application, there is an evident purpose to both designs.

I think you're a bit confused ... the AR-15 in not "good enough" precision it's very good precision and probably more accurate than many hunting rifles. The AK-47, on the other hand, is often pretty sloppy and therefore not nearly as accurate. You might argue the AK-47 is "good enough" but then there are AK's that have been made well and are very accurate as well.

Also, arguing that the AR-15 is for killing people as opposed to hunting dinner isn't accurate either. How many Ar's do you think are in the hands of Americans in a civilian capacity? What percentage are used in crimes or shooting at people versus shooting at targets or small game?

Lastly, although there are constant efforts to ban the AR for reasons not unlike what you allude to the fact is the vast majority of criminals prefer handguns largely because they are cheaper and easier to conceal. When Piers Morgan et all talk about banning assault rifles what they're really after is banning ALL guns starting with assault rifles.


Brian

 

[moonbogg]

I like bolt action rifles personally and never really liked autos or semi autos anyway.

/shrug

Me too. Some funny shit this last weekend happened between two AR's and my bolt gun, all .223's. The AR's were firing like absolute crazy trying to hit a bucket of tannerite down the road about 150m away. It sounded like a war zone and they kept missing. I slipped a single shot in there and got the stupid thing. Was funny.

/END THREAD!

 

[TerryMathews]

Me too. Some funny shit this last weekend happened between two AR's and my bolt gun, all .223's. The AR's were firing like absolute crazy trying to hit a bucket of tannerite down the road about 150m away. It sounded like a war zone and they kept missing. I slipped a single shot in there and got the stupid thing. Was funny.

/END THREAD!

The question is, was it the shooter or the gun?

I think based on the way you told the story obviously the shooter.

 

[smackababy]

I like bolt action rifles personally and never really liked autos or semi autos anyway.

/shrug

Lever action is where it's at. A nice lever action 30-30 and you're golden.