New York city - More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born

[shadow9d9]

Ever hear of a partial birth abortion. Yes, babies do get aborted.

"Of those, only about 2,200 D&X abortions were performed, or about 0.2 percent of the 1.3 million abortions believed to be performed that year."

http://www.npr.org/2006/02/21/5168163/partial-birth-abortion-separating-fact-from-spin

You are complaining about .2% of abortions and trying to make it seem like it is the norm. Pathetic.

 

[Texashiker]

What saddens me is people justify more black children being aborted than born.

The people who established the eugenics program in the early 20th century would be proud.

Frankly it makes me sick.

1 - The women were unable to obtain birth control, or did not use the birth control properly to prevent a pregnancy. But which is it? They did not take the time to obtain or did not use properly?

2 - How many women terminated their pregnancies because they did not have a support chain?

If financial impact was the primary reason for ending the pregnancy, is there more we as a society can do to help minorities? Maybe provide better housing than "the projects", free college education, free transportation,,,?

I find it disgusting that minorities have such high rates of abortions. It tells me we are not doing enough to help those who need it.

 

[bradly1101]

This seems to imply that abortion is 'bad'. If those unwanted children were born, not only would they lead a hard life, but due to the fact that they're unwanted, they probably wouldn't be well taken care of, and may turn to a gang for a sense of belonging. Also don't we have enough people who can't make it above the lower rungs? Actually enough people period.

 

[Texashiker]

If those unwanted children were born, not only would they lead a hard life, but due to the fact that they're unwanted, they probably wouldn't be well taken care of, and may turn to a gang for a sense of belonging. Also don't we have enough people who can't make it above the lower rungs? Actually enough people period.

That is some of the same logic that was used to forcibly sterilize people when eugenics was legal.

Lower class people should not be having kids, so lets just sterilize them.

But in this case lets just abort the child.

 

[berzerker60]

What saddens me is people justify more black children being aborted than born.

0 black children were aborted. Embryos in early development in black women's wombs were aborted sometimes though.

You don't even want to hear how many 'black children' are lost through masturbation and menstrual cycles if we're counting everything with human genetic material that could become a person.

1 - The women were unable to obtain birth control, or did not use the birth control properly to prevent a pregnancy. But which is it? They did not take the time to obtain or did not use properly?

Why does it matter? It certainly doesn't help when people push abstinence-only sex ed and restricting access to birth control, which should be over-the-counter rather than requiring a prescription. But the religious right is more concerned with controlling women's sexuality and punishing women for having sex than they are with preventing abortions.

If financial impact was the primary reason for ending the pregnancy, is there more we as a society can do to help minorities? Maybe provide better housing than "the projects", free college education, free transportation,,,?

I find it disgusting that minorities have such high rates of abortions. It tells me we are not doing enough to help those who need it.

This part is basically correct. Conservatives want to prevent the abortion, but fuck that welfare queen single mother who wants to feed her baby! Gut WIC and food stamps! If that baby wanted to have adequate nutrition to develop to its fullest it should have been born to a wealthier family! Again, consistent with wanting to control and punish sex-havers rather than promote healthy families and children.

 

[Paratus]

I need a little help here.

I was going to argue that we consider adults who no longer have brain function as no longer living. At which point we can pull any life support measures. So what then is the difference between a ball of cells without brain function having its "life support" pulled?

However my problem is the OP obviously has no brain function but is obviously considered alive. So I've got to work through that one. 😕 :whiste: 😉

 

[Sonikku]

Perhaps it's for the best. Let them be born today and they'll be threatening us with popcorn and skittles tomorrow.

 

[JManInPhoenix]

...children' are lost through masturbation...

:biggrin: I was quite the murderer back in the day

 

[berzerker60]

:biggrin: I was quite the murderer back in the day

And that's just getting started.

http://miscarriage.about.com/od/riskfactors/a/miscarriage-statistics.htm

there's only around a 30% chance of getting pregnant each menstrual cycle even when you're having regular sex, researchers speculate that fertilized eggs often fail to implant, usually with the woman unaware that conception occurred. Laboratory studies on IVF patients have found that a very large percentage of eggs harbor chromosome abnormalities (the leading cause of miscarriage), and another study found that in natural cycles, about 22% of all conceptions never complete implantation. Considering such evidence, some scientists have speculated that if you factor in fertilized eggs that don't implant along with pregnancies that end in miscarriage, around 70-75% of conceptions end up miscarrying.

God: The Most Prolific Abortionist of All

 

[Paratus]

And that's just getting started.

http://miscarriage.about.com/od/riskfactors/a/miscarriage-statistics.htm


God: The Most Prolific Abortionist of All

Well you have to remember the fundy pro-life argument.

1) YOU are responsible for the sex you have.

2) A fertilized egg is child.

3) If you take a pill that prevents plantation or causes abortion or have an abortion you murdered your child.

4) If it spontaneously happens YOU are not responsible and no child was killed.

So let me repeat the important part of this logical argument:

YOU are responsible for the sex you have.
YOU are not responsible

YOU are responsible for the sex you have.
YOU are not responsible

YOU are responsible for the sex you have.
YOU are not responsible

Pretty much sums it up.

 

[DominionSeraph]

The people who established the eugenics program in the early 20th century would be proud.

No, your existence would sadden them.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So 53% of the population makes up 73% of all abortions.

And if ALL types pregnancies are monitored for adverse flu immunization effects, then by definition 100% of high risk pregnancies would fall under the category of "all" and therefore monitored.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

1 - The women were unable to obtain birth control, or did not use the birth control properly to prevent a pregnancy. But which is it? They did not take the time to obtain or did not use properly?

Oh, you forgot "didn't use it". That's a real problem right there.

 

[Nebor]

I feel like the OP thinks he's scoring some kind of big hit against the left by pitting abortion and racism against once another.

I don't like babies, and I'm on the fence on black people, so I'll just have a beer.

 

[glenn1]

New York city - More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Maybe it's a sign that Blacks are ready to become more reproductively responsible, and, as a collective racial group, finally advance?

 

[bradly1101]

That is some of the same logic that was used to forcibly sterilize people when eugenics was legal.

Lower class people should not be having kids, so lets just sterilize them.

But in this case lets just abort the child.

Us? I think this is an individual decision by the mother, not a requirement of the society. If she made a kid (for whatever reason-it feels good, I was drunk, the condom broke, a swimmer got past the birth control...) but couldn't afford one, what should she do? Giving up a kid for adoption can be really hard.

 

[DominionSeraph]

I feel like the OP thinks he's scoring some kind of big hit against the left by pitting abortion and racism against once another.

Try to keep up.

 

[Moonbeam]

I own a lot of prison stock and I hate abortion. I want to house all those babies in my jails.

 

[cyclohexane]

What saddens me is people justify more black children being aborted than born.

The people who established the eugenics program in the early 20th century would be proud.

Frankly it makes me sick.

1 - The women were unable to obtain birth control, or did not use the birth control properly to prevent a pregnancy. But which is it? They did not take the time to obtain or did not use properly?

2 - How many women terminated their pregnancies because they did not have a support chain?

If financial impact was the primary reason for ending the pregnancy, is there more we as a society can do to help minorities? Maybe provide better housing than "the projects", free college education, free transportation,,,?

I find it disgusting that minorities have such high rates of abortions. It tells me we are not doing enough to help those who need it.

wait, I thought you were also anti-birth control. Now I'm confused.

 

[brycejones]

wait, I thought you were also anti-birth control. Now I'm confused.

So is the OP.........

 

[Texashiker]

wait, I thought you were also anti-birth control.

Why would you think that?

 

[FaaR]

Whatever makes it all ok for you I guess.

People who scream the most about "babies" being aborted are also the ones who give the fewest shits about said babies when they're actually born. They are also typically against: public health care, public education, social security and other safety nets which protect poor and/or minority children.

Just goes to show where their priorities ACTUALLY lie...

 

[pcgeek11]

"Of those, only about 2,200 D&X abortions were performed, or about 0.2 percent of the 1.3 million abortions believed to be performed that year."

http://www.npr.org/2006/02/21/5168163/partial-birth-abortion-separating-fact-from-spin

You are complaining about .2% of abortions and trying to make it seem like it is the norm. Pathetic.

I am not complaining about anything. Someone said that Babies are not aborted. I was pointing out the falseness of that statement. I did not claim that it was the " Norm". So you are the pathetic one. Fuck off!

 

[IGBT]

some of em ought to be choked in the crib.