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New XP Install - ton of issues with Ad-Aware, S&D, Firefox, etc.

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VoodooU

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I've recently moved from win2k to winxp pro and have performed the installation and relavent updates three times. With each installation I continue to run into the same issue, Firefox randomly hangs for 15-30sec, Ad-Aware starts and then stops but still shows a s process running, Search & Destroy starts than hangs the whole system.

I did not have any of these issues with Win2k and am wondering if anyone has run into anything similar.

Im running a DFI 875B with Intel 3.2Ghz CPU, 2gigs Crucial Ram and an ATI x850 GPU. I've tried these apps with a fresh install, install with patches/without patches, with new drivers, without, etc. and run into the same issues.

Any thoughts?
 
The system is not OC'd (but thanks for what I can only presume to be a smart-assed inquiry) and I am running SP2.

I've run into the same issues regardless of whether I try and run the apps pre or post update installation. As previously noted, I encountered none of these issues when on Win2K.
 
1. Have you done a complete reformat with installation or have you simply upgraded XP on top of 2k?
2. Have you run memtest86+?

First of all, a complete reformat is the best thing to do imo. Upgrading is always messy. If you only have an XP upgrade disc, you can do a fresh install from a bare drive provided you have a previous-version Windows disc, like 2000, or you have Windows installed on the hard drive. So you don't have to worry about that. Second, I found that memory can be an issue sometimes. The first box I built initially had Windows 2000 and a gig and a half of cheapo ram. It ran just peachy until I installed XP. Apparently XP is less fault-tolerant than 2k and I had crazy errors all the time, even during installation (like asking me for a driver for the cpu and ram). I ran memtest and discovered that I had a stick of bad ram, which I promptly chucked. It ran fine after that. Crucial is a good brand, but even good brands have problems sometimes. So, run memtest and do a completely fresh install, then report back to us 🙂

ps - I like to leave memtest on overnight; if it can pass six tests with no errors/failures, I call it good.
 
I installed a new HDD as my boot drive which required a whole new installation rather then an installation over the top of Win2K. I haven't tried memtest, only Sandra and Prime95 which ran without issue. I'll give memtest a try with a fresh install and see what I can find. Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know in a couple days how it turned out...
 
Originally posted by: VoodooU
I installed a new HDD as my boot drive which required a whole new installation rather then an installation over the top of Win2K. I haven't tried memtest, only Sandra and Prime95 which ran without issue. I'll give memtest a try with a fresh install and see what I can find. Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know in a couple days how it turned out...
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If the XP installation is using a new hard drive, it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison with your previous 2K install. Perhaps the new HD is defective?
 
You have other issues. It may be a conflict between some security setting in XP and your other progs.

I have both Ad-Aware and Spybot S&D, and I'm running Netscape 7.2, which is an earlier Mozilla build. I've also installed all of these and Firefox on other XP Pro setups, including those with SATA drives, and I've never seen the problems you're having.

Most of the major hangups I've encountered with Ad-Aware and Spybot are on spyware infected machines. It starts at installation. If you can't figure it out, as much work as it is, I'd suggest starting again from the ground up.

When I set up a new I always recommend buying drives in pairs and a moble rack and getting a copy of Ghost. When building, I do this:

NOTES:

DO NOT go online until you have your AV, spyware traps and firewall in place. Then, ONLY go for AV and anti-spyware software.

1. Install the base system and nothing more. No updates and no programs.

2. Install Ad-Aware and Spybot, and scan the drive. They'll find some stuff to delete.

3. Install Zone Alarm (or other firewall of choice).

4. STOP, and Ghost the drive. Do this after EVERY major installation step. It takes only a few minutes, and the next thing you do can't screw the system any more than it can be unscrewed.

5. Install Norton System Works (or your choice of AV and tools).

6. Run everything, nuke the problems, and run Norton WinDoctor or the Registry cleanup tool you prefer. This is important. Keeping your registry clean during the build prevents accumulating problems. NSW and other good tools allow you to undo the changes they make so you can undo any changes that don't work.

I'll refer to NSW in uture repeats of this step. Alternatives of your choice are implied.

7. STOP. Plug in the backup drive, Ghost the drive, and unplug the backup drive.

8. Now, it's finally time to go to Windows Update for critical updates. Get only the first round your system allows. You won't be able to d/l them all in one step.

9. Run everything, nuke the problems, and run Norton WinDoctor. I've never seen a Windows update that didn't require a registry cleanup, and some contain items Ad-Aware or Spybot WILL recognize as malicious files. NUKE 'EM!

10. STOP, and Ghost the drive, and unplug the backup drive.

11. Continue updating Windows.

12. Repeat the full cleanup after every step, and Ghost the drive. If the next installation screws the pooch, you can restore it to the last known good condition in minutes.

Note -- Windows restore points are nowhere near as secure as Ghost. Restore point info is stored on your hard drive, and some viruses attack the restore point files. There is no malicious software that can jump the air gap so you're always as good as your last known good Ghost copy.

This requires investing a few minutes along the way following each step. You'll appreciate it the first time you run into a problem, and all you have to do is Ghost your last good installation point back to your main drive. 🙂
 
I had same problem last week after refresh install win xp and everything seems to slow sown or slow load up. I believe it has to do with bad drivers and I might have accident installed w2k driver instead of xp own drivers...last sunday I had to re-install again so far everything is ok except for net framework...I am not sure if it is worth to re-install net framework again.

Originally posted by: VoodooU
I've recently moved from win2k to winxp pro and have performed the installation and relavent updates three times. With each installation I continue to run into the same issue, Firefox randomly hangs for 15-30sec, Ad-Aware starts and then stops but still shows a s process running, Search & Destroy starts than hangs the whole system.

I did not have any of these issues with Win2k and am wondering if anyone has run into anything similar.

Im running a DFI 875B with Intel 3.2Ghz CPU, 2gigs Crucial Ram and an ATI x850 GPU. I've tried these apps with a fresh install, install with patches/without patches, with new drivers, without, etc. and run into the same issues.

Any thoughts?
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If you use Antivir 7.0 get another antivirus program, it has problems with hanging of programs etc. I had the same problem and switched to avast.
 
Well, after much back and forth, I am still largely unable to correct the issue. Nothing I've run has been able to identify any issues with memory and I've attempted another reinstall of the OS from the ground up.

1 - formatted the drive, began installation from CD, ran no updates and installed no drivers
2 - installed Ad-Aware and S&D from jump drive rather than downloading from web
3 - Both apps hang trying to run, am able to run S&D if it runs at boot, finds nothing to remove

At this point I have bare installation sans Ad-Aware and S&D. For kicks I installed win2k to a seperate drive from scratch and both apps run fine. Any chance it's something specific with my board, bios, etc.?
 
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