New X25-M G2 - Install and use or wait until firmware?

[pcslookout]

Yes, AHCI is required for TRIM (and the other proper SSD functions). An SSD running in IDE is fairly pointless. I assume you mean AHCI, ACPI is something entirely different.

Actually AHCI is not required for TRIM at all! I went to go answer my own question and found this out.

That is one good thing though sense I don't have to worry about fixing this stupid AHCI issue now. Unless it will really speed up my Intel SSD. Doubt it though. One thing it sure did is almost gave me a small heart attack thinking I broke my Intel SSD by flashing it to the latest removed firmware. Thank god it wasn't that. Scared me for a minute there.

 

[pcslookout]

Not sure it is possible. With Vista that required a registry hack or reinstall.

I would recommend a reinstall despite how appealing that is.

Well I tried AHPI without a reinstall, just to see what would happen but I was doing a full reinstall anyway, gave a BSOD. After doing a reinstall Windows 7 64 bit would never get pass finishing the installation at the last step. That was only with a certain BIOS version of my motherboard where the BIOS bootup screen would actually get to the part where it was booting from a cd. The latest BIOS for my motherboard everytime I would bootup it would get stuck on detecting AHPI devices. Had to reset my CMOS manually every time. Sucked. I am beginning to think it has something to do with my IDE DVD-RW drive. Not sure. One thing I do notice is when I turned on AHPI it seem like, when the OS would even begin to install, that my DVD-RW drive was faster when set to AHPI mode. Not sure why though. Seem pretty strange. I didn't think AHPI was much faster. Just looked like Windows 7 64 bit would begin installing a lot quicker with the files going from the dvd to the SSD faster.

 

[MJinZ]

Actually AHCI is not required for TRIM at all! I went to go answer my own question and found this out.

That is one good thing though sense I don't have to worry about fixing this stupid AHCI issue now. Unless it will really speed up my Intel SSD. Doubt it though. One thing it sure did is almost gave me a small heart attack thinking I broke my Intel SSD by flashing it to the latest removed firmware. Thank god it wasn't that. Scared me for a minute there.

Actually, where do you do your research?

The only way TRIM works is through Microsoft's Windows 7 SATA AHCI Drivers.

No, it does not even work on Intel's SATA RAID Drivers. What makes you think that running in IDE mode (isn't that rather self explanatory?) will enable TRIM?

You may be able to manually run the TRIM command through the INtel SSD Toolbox, but it will not run automatically as part of the normal operations of your Operating System.

 

[pcslookout]

Actually, where do you do your research?

The only way TRIM works is through Microsoft's Windows 7 SATA AHCI Drivers.

No, it does not even work on Intel's SATA RAID Drivers. What makes you think that running in IDE mode (isn't that rather self explanatory?) will enable TRIM?

You may be able to manually run the TRIM command through the INtel SSD Toolbox, but it will not run automatically as part of the normal operations of your Operating System.

"There are significant limitations to TRIM at this point. The instruction only works in a supported OS (Windows 7 and some Linux builds) and only with supported drivers. Under Windows 7 that means you have to use a Microsoft made IDE or AHCI driver (you can't install chipset drivers from anyone else)."

Anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631&p=15

Actually I have a even better resource.

 

[shabby]

Could be a typo, you still need ahci to have trim/ncq working.

 

[pcslookout]

Could be a typo, you still need ahci to have trim/ncq working.

Not the only place I have seen this.

 

[sxr7171]

Alright I have a question:

Hasn't it been a week since they figured out it was the flashing program at fault?

So where the #^%$ is the FW update?

 

[pcslookout]

Alright I have a question:

Hasn't it been a week since they figured out it was the flashing program at fault?

So where the #^%$ is the FW update?

Actually much longer. I just installed the pulled firmware and my Intel X25-M drives work great and now I have TRIM from the beginning!

 

[pcslookout]

Wow my scored bascially doubled by enabling AHCI from 196 to 401 The whole drive feels a lot quicker too. Can't believe it can double my performance like this.

I have a few black ! with yellow circles in my device manager though. Not sure what to do about that. There for ATA 0 and ATA 1 devices. There is already devices for that name that are working fine must be the versions when I was using IDE mode not sure. Is it ok to delete the broken ones? I can take a screenshot if you all need to. Glad I was able to enable AHCI though without a blue screen or my BIOS getting stuck. Maybe I will finally see the speed difference everything is talking about with SSDS. Maybe this was my problem all the time. Just that Windows 7 64 bit installation refused to finish or even start at times when AHCI was enabled. Sucked. Glad to know those hours weren't wasted though trying to get it to work.

 

[pcslookout]

Here are my results. The 196 before was quite disappointing but once I enabled AHCI that was no more! Very pleased. Surprised though because most sites where I checked people's Intel X25M G2 80 GB drive scores with the same test they only get 200 and something. Mine gets close to the 160 GB version's score Maybe not with all the read and write numbers but the overall score which is still impressive. Maybe it has something to do with upgrading to the latest pulled Intel firmware?

I was hoping for 200 to 300 something but 400 wow!

 

[sports9956]

What steps am I going to have to do to install my intel ssd on xp then upgrade to 7 because all I have is the upgrade for 7 i bought...How much of a nightmare is this going to be?

 

[PUN]

What steps am I going to have to do to install my intel ssd on xp then upgrade to 7 because all I have is the upgrade for 7 i bought...How much of a nightmare is this going to be?

You can use the upgrade disk to do a clean fresh install.
Just google it

 

[jimhsu]

Here are my results. The 196 before was quite disappointing but once I enabled AHCI that was no more! Very pleased. Surprised though because most sites where I checked people's Intel X25M G2 80 GB drive scores with the same test they only get 200 and something. Mine gets close to the 160 GB version's score Maybe not with all the read and write numbers but the overall score which is still impressive. Maybe it has something to do with upgrading to the latest pulled Intel firmware?

I was hoping for 200 to 300 something but 400 wow!

That benchmark at least for Intel drives is the definite one for telling whether AHCI is enabled (and supported *cough* certain motherboards *cough*) properly. The 64 thread result should be much higher than the synchronous 4K.