New WTC design!

imported_tss4

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New World Trade Center!

The new tower design looks amazing! A hundred feet taller than the current largest building in the world! It should be completed in 2010 which is pretty quick IMO for such an incredible engineering feet.

The building, which has been dubbed "The Freedom Tower" by Pataki, will remain 1,776 feet, symbolizing the year the United States declared its independence.

It would be almost 100 feet taller than the Taipei 101 Tower in Taiwan, currently the tallest building in the world.

It also will retain a spire, containing a 400-foot broadcast antenna which will emit light at night and is intended to echo the Statue of Liberty's torch.
 

PatboyX

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sure, this is interesting...but how can i find a way to blame my political opposites for one of its failings?!?!
this topic doesnt belong in P&N!

its pretty intense looking though.
 

Infohawk

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Much nicer than the skeletal one that was previously thought of. I do think there is something to the idea of building the same towers or maybe bigger ones though like Trump suggested. But this is impressive too.
 

imported_tss4

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I think given the link to 9/11 its relevant, and besides, this could be one of those rare posts that both sides can join hands and sing in harmony over! :laugh:
 

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I can't tell, is that NY or Chicago? looks to much like the Sears tower
 

loup garou

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I like it better than the original design. Not so sure about the disco ball light at the top (watch the video), though. :confused: I wish they'd make the "Tribute in Light" a permanent fixture, I think that is one of the best memorials I've ever seen.
 

shurato

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That looks awesome. I like the beam of light. Curious who's building it? I just hope it doesn't become another target for terrorists :(
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: shurato
I just hope it doesn't become another target for terrorists :(

Oh it would be... The question is whether we can protect it. I bet we can. (However, I would not work there based on that gamble).
 

Stunt

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"its 200-foot base will be covered in steel and titanium intended to make it blast-resistant."

Wow...I wonder the price tag on this sucker...
 

judasmachine

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Originally posted by: Stunt
"its 200-foot base will be covered in steel and titanium intended to make it blast-resistant."

Wow...I wonder the price tag on this sucker...

seriously! a titanium building is crazy. this just shows america's attitude more than making it "terrorist proof" as they will just choose a softer target next time around, or build a bigger bomb.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Stunt
"its 200-foot base will be covered in steel and titanium intended to make it blast-resistant."

Wow...I wonder the price tag on this sucker...

seriously! a titanium building is crazy. this just shows america's attitude more than making it "terrorist proof" as they will just choose a softer target next time around, or build a bigger bomb.
Last time the terrorists hit, they didn't hit the base.
Also, there are countless other targets other than this new tower. Lightning rarly hits twice. :p
 

imported_tss4

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Stunt
"its 200-foot base will be covered in steel and titanium intended to make it blast-resistant."

Wow...I wonder the price tag on this sucker...

seriously! a titanium building is crazy. this just shows america's attitude more than making it "terrorist proof" as they will just choose a softer target next time around, or build a bigger bomb.
Last time the terrorists hit, they didn't hit the base.
Also, there are countless other targets other than this new tower. Lightning rarly hits twice. :p

Sure, but it would be naive to think that the tallest building in the world woudn't be a terrorist target, so precautions life this are a good idea. Besides, I'm willing to bet they've designed this one to take a direct hit from a 747. I'd be shocked if they hadnt.
 

judasmachine

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Stunt
"its 200-foot base will be covered in steel and titanium intended to make it blast-resistant."

Wow...I wonder the price tag on this sucker...

seriously! a titanium building is crazy. this just shows america's attitude more than making it "terrorist proof" as they will just choose a softer target next time around, or build a bigger bomb.
Last time the terrorists hit, they didn't hit the base.
Also, there are countless other targets other than this new tower. Lightning rarly hits twice. :p


thats what i'm saying is that this is a 'feel good' upgrade.
 

imported_tss4

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Stunt
"its 200-foot base will be covered in steel and titanium intended to make it blast-resistant."

Wow...I wonder the price tag on this sucker...

seriously! a titanium building is crazy. this just shows america's attitude more than making it "terrorist proof" as they will just choose a softer target next time around, or build a bigger bomb.
Last time the terrorists hit, they didn't hit the base.
Also, there are countless other targets other than this new tower. Lightning rarly hits twice. :p


thats what i'm saying is that this is a 'feel good' upgrade.


That's silly. The upgrade takes away one possible attack route. That helps. No structure is impervious to attack, but you can lower the chances by limiting the threats.
 

judasmachine

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In their arrogance they may try to hit the same building a 3rd time, but I also feel that 9/11 was pretty much their last hurrah, not a beginning. I hope I'm right.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Stunt
"its 200-foot base will be covered in steel and titanium intended to make it blast-resistant."

Wow...I wonder the price tag on this sucker...
seriously! a titanium building is crazy. this just shows america's attitude more than making it "terrorist proof" as they will just choose a softer target next time around, or build a bigger bomb.
Last time the terrorists hit, they didn't hit the base.
Also, there are countless other targets other than this new tower. Lightning rarly hits twice. :p
Sure, but it would be naive to think that the tallest building in the world woudn't be a terrorist target, so precautions life this are a good idea. Besides, I'm willing to bet they've designed this one to take a direct hit from a 747. I'd be shocked if they hadnt.
Direct hit from a 747?!...I didn't see anything in the article touting that.
I'd be surprised if they could do that...
It's a tall building, and hitting it halfway up will add the weight of the floors above.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
In their arrogance they may try to hit the same building a 3rd time, but I also feel that 9/11 was pretty much their last hurrah, not a beginning. I hope I'm right.
Terrorist attacks happened before 9/11 and after, hopefully they will not happen in the future, but it is almost inevitable.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: tss4

Sure, but it would be naive to think that the tallest building in the world woudn't be a terrorist target, so precautions life this are a good idea. Besides, I'm willing to bet they've designed this one to take a direct hit from a 747. I'd be shocked if they hadnt.

I don't think that it will be the tallest building in the world when it opens.
 
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Originally posted by: Stunt
Titanium is over $8,000 per tonne.

Compare this to other metals
ALUMINIUM $1,709
COPPER $3,578
LEAD $953
NICKEL $14,905
TIN $7,305
ZINC $1,225

Titanium also has a higher strength to weight ratio than those other metals. What's the blast protection afforded by those other metals in comparison to, say, a 1/4" thick plate of titanium? iow, how thick would an aluminum sheet have to be to provide the same protection?
 

ntdz

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I like the design. I like the light emitting from the top, and I like the fact it's the tallest building in the world.
 

imported_tss4

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: tss4

Sure, but it would be naive to think that the tallest building in the world woudn't be a terrorist target, so precautions life this are a good idea. Besides, I'm willing to bet they've designed this one to take a direct hit from a 747. I'd be shocked if they hadnt.

I don't think that it will be the tallest building in the world when it opens.

why? do you know of plans to make another taller building?
 
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I like this design more than the other one, but I still think it looks weird in its environment...like some sort of futuristic building surrounded by non-futuristic buildings...
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
In their arrogance they may try to hit the same building a 3rd time, but I also feel that 9/11 was pretty much their last hurrah, not a beginning. I hope I'm right.

The only way there going to get close to taking that building out again is with nukes way over in central park (along with every other building in manhatten). Like you said though I hope your right.