New video card problem

[crawford]

I just built a computer with a MSI GeForce 4 Ti4200 64mb video card. I installed the card with the drivers it came with, everything seemed fine. Then I tried to play a game, and i got an error. I tried another game, same error. Im not sure what the error is, its that microsoft thing that comes up and says "send error report" or whatever.

So i go to install the 40.43 (or whatever) dets and the picture looks great, but same thing with games. I got into some heavy action on Wolfenstein and then i get the error. I dled 3d mark 2001 to see if the comp would at least get through it. Nope, before it even starts I get BSOD. Anyone know what my problem is and what I can do to fix it? Its my cousins computer so i dont have it right here in front of me, but I live close.

Thanks a lot, I really need to get this resolved as soon as possible.

 

[kanderva]

Since I don't know your system specs, I can't offer much. But, just to be sure all the bases are covered, have you installed the AGP driver for your mobo chipset if such a driver is required? If it is required and has not been installed, it could very likely be the source of your problem, since it is occurring under intense video processing. If you need to install an AGP driver, you will probably need to uninstall the video drivers, install the AGP driver, then reinstall the video drivers.

Ken

 

[crawford]

Originally posted by: kanderva
Since I don't know your system specs, I can't offer much. But, just to be sure all the bases are covered, have you installed the AGP driver for your mobo chipset if such a driver is required? If it is required and has not been installed, it could very likely be the source of your problem, since it is occurring under intense video processing. If you need to install an AGP driver, you will probably need to uninstall the video drivers, install the AGP driver, then reinstall the video drivers.

Ken

thanks for your input, i do believe i installed the agp drivers but im gonna go over there now and do it again, just to be sure.

 

[crawford]

Just in case you think of anything else (my cuz wasnt home so i cant do it right now)
the mobo is the MSI kt3 ultra 2 (i think thats it, the one with the kt333 chipset) with a axp2000+.

 

[crawford]

I just did it, ran 3dmark2k1 and it got to the second dragothic thing before it crashed. Anyone have any other ideas ? I really need to get this fixed. Im gonna reformat tomorrow and reinstall everything in hopes that will fix it.

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

what was the error?
did it identify any file in the bsod?

is the videocard overclocked?
is it really hot? (take off the side of the case and check, and then point a housefan/any fan at it)

try gonig to agp2x in the bios

 

[kanderva]

crawford,

I think ChampionAtTufshop may have something there with his idea of an overheat problem. I would do exactly as he suggested -- open the case and point a fan at it, taking aim on that video card. I run with my case open and a small outside fan because I'm too lazy at present to purchase another case fan; my system runs about seven degrees Fahrenheit cooler than with the case closed.

I would only reformat and reinstall as an absolute last resort. Better to tinker with the BIOS settings before getting really drastic. I am concerned that after you do the reinstall, the same thing will happen again and you'll be twice as frustrated. Was there anything that happened during the install that would lead you to believe a problem had occurred?

Ken

 

[crawford]

That sounds like a good idea. Are these video cards known to run hot ? Right now i only have 1 case fan in there, but can add more if needed. Tomorrow, I will run it without the side of the case and with a fan pointed at it. Man, you guys are smart, that seems like that could easily be the problem because it only happens after a while.

 

[kanderva]

Don't pat us on our backs yet; your problem is not yet fixed. I don't whether these cards have a reputation for running hot. I run a GeForce2 GTS and have never had a problem, but the GeForce3 and GeForce4 certainly run considerably hotter. This is probably compensated for by larger heatsinks and/or fans.

Here is a link (Sorry, I haven't been able to insert an actual working link on this forum yet.) to an article comparing stats for GeForce2, 3, and 4; you may find it of interest:

http://www.d-silence.com/articles/geforce4.shtml

I'll be anxiously awaiting your reply as to whether an overheat condition is the problem; I hope the news is good!

Ken

 

[crawford]

Well it makes perfect sense, i mean i couldnt think of another reason why it would cut off half way though intense graphics. Thanks for your interest, i wish i could find out too but its too late to try tonight. Its at my cousins house so I wont be able to check until tomorrow afternoon. Ill let you know as soon as I do .