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Conroe

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I'm fixing up my oldest son's Haswell rig. He's been in the Navy and has been using a Laptop. I never overclocked this PC much. I just set it to 4ghz and it's been there for years. Here is is at 4.6. It will be at 4.5 1.3v when I give it back to him.



Where are the Ryzens?
 

crashtech

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Thanks, Crono! Hopefully you will come back with a nice OC result once your cooler arrives! :)
 

IEC

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Ryzen 1800X @ 4.0 using gravity-mounted Cooler Master Hyper 212+ (for the lulz)
DDR4-3400 @ 2666 14-14-14-14-35-2T (until BIOS fix...)
BLCK 100, multi 40, LLC 3, offset +0.05V
Stock speeds included in ranking for comparison.



Edit: Noctua D15 order still hasn't shipped, and no ETA. Canceled and will consider other cooling options.
 
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crashtech

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Beating Broadwell clock-for-clock and core for core in this bench, very impressive!
 

unseenmorbidity

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Ryzen 1800X @ 4.0 using gravity-mounted Cooler Master Hyper 212+ (for the lulz)
DDR4-3400 @ 2666 14-14-14-14-35-2T (until BIOS fix...)
BLCK 100, multi 40, LLC 3, offset +0.05V
Stock speeds included in ranking for comparison.



I'll probably throw in a 4.1 on air run later assuming the Noctua D15 I have en route is up to the task.
What were your load temps on 212?
 

IEC

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What were your load temps on 212?
No idea, because overclocking/voltage changes drops my temperatures 20C on my motherboard for some inexplicable reason. The only thing I can say with confidence is it was not thermal throttling :D

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Per AMD community forum post:
The primary temperature reporting sensor of the AMD Ryzen™ processor is a sensor called “T Control,” or tCTL for short. The tCTL sensor is derived from the junction (Tj) temperature—the interface point between the die and heatspreader—but it may be offset on certain CPU models so that all models on the AM4 Platform have the same maximum tCTL value. This approach ensures that all AMD Ryzen™ processors have a consistent fan policy.

Specifically, the AMD Ryzen™ 7 1700X and 1800X carry a +20°C offset between the tCTL° (reported) temperature and the actual Tj° temperature. In the short term, users of the AMD Ryzen™ 1700X and 1800X can simply subtract 20°C to determine the true junction temperature of their processor. No arithmetic is required for the Ryzen 7 1700. Long term, we expect temperature monitoring software to better understand our tCTL offsets to report the junction temperature automatically.
Source: https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/03/13/amd-ryzen-community-update?sf62107357=1
 
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IEC

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I wonder how Crono got a over a full point higher than you with the same clockspeed?
He's lower than my stock settings for 1800X as well.

My guess: motherboard/BIOS and/or RAM timings.

Edit: Another possibility is power management in Windows. Needs to be set to High Performance.
 
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compman25

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I wonder how Crono got a over a full point higher than you with the same clockspeed?
No idea. That is totally stock settings for the ASRock x370 Pro Gaming Fatal1ty BIOS (1.54), Win10 power settings on High Performance. It's more than fast enough for me.
 

Crono

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Might come down to the RAM speed and timings... mine is 2 x 8GB, currently running at 2667MHz, 16-18-18-38. MSI X370 Xpower Gaming Titanium. There was essentially nothing but system background processes running at the time when I ran the bench on a fresh and clean install, so that might be a factor, as well.
 

crashtech

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No idea. That is totally stock settings for the ASRock x370 Pro Gaming Fatal1ty BIOS (1.54), Win10 power settings on High Performance. It's more than fast enough for me.
I hope you don't think I'm belittling your score, I'm grateful you submitted it! A lot of us who post in this thread are concerned about performance, to the extent that I've had to update scores many times as guys are getting more and more out of their systems. I thought that you might have been leaving some performance on the table, clearly Ryzen is sensitive to factors other than clock speed, and that is somewhat unusual in this benchmark. It would be interesting to work out just what the differences in your respective setups, we need all the info we can get about this new microarchitecture and how it responds to tweaking.
 

compman25

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I hope you don't think I'm belittling your score, I'm grateful you submitted it! A lot of us who post in this thread are concerned about performance, to the extent that I've had to update scores many times as guys are getting more and more out of their systems. I thought that you might have been leaving some performance on the table, clearly Ryzen is sensitive to factors other than clock speed, and that is somewhat unusual in this benchmark. It would be interesting to work out just what the differences in your respective setups, we need all the info we can get about this new microarchitecture and how it responds to tweaking.
Not at all, I understand why people are posting their scores. I'm sure it's leaving some performance on the table, this was just showing what a typical stock setup would do.
 

crashtech

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Not at all, I understand why people are posting their scores. I'm sure it's leaving some performance on the table, this was just showing what a typical stock setup would do.
Apparently my post was mostly for naught if you fixed the problem with a reboot! :tearsofjoy:
 

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