New TSA rules starting Jan 2008
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They seem to be concerned with primary lithium cells. These are non rechargeable cells like CR123's and such. These are below 2g. Any battery in an ipod, camera, or phone should be below 2g. Extended run time packs particularly for professional a/v gear are going to be over 2g but less than 25g.
I can imagine with the "trained?" folks at the checkpoints things shall get interesting for those traveling with lots of gear.
Hopefully there will never be a fire on a plane from a device whether it's a portable music player or notebook pc. That would probably spell the end of traveling with these things. From folks I deal with that travel with them the impact would be severe.
EDIT: In this day and age I would not be surprised to see development of a "battery calming device" - a fireproof container that can be sent down the aisle quickly in case of a malfunctioning device. The device would be put into the container and the container's function engaged where it seals itself completely and activates a quenching agent to bring down the temperature and extinguish a class D fire and neutralize any threat. In a severe case where it does not seem to respond it would be stout enough to contain the threat until the container is jettisoned! :laugh:
I can imagine with the "trained?" folks at the checkpoints things shall get interesting for those traveling with lots of gear.
Hopefully there will never be a fire on a plane from a device whether it's a portable music player or notebook pc. That would probably spell the end of traveling with these things. From folks I deal with that travel with them the impact would be severe.
EDIT: In this day and age I would not be surprised to see development of a "battery calming device" - a fireproof container that can be sent down the aisle quickly in case of a malfunctioning device. The device would be put into the container and the container's function engaged where it seals itself completely and activates a quenching agent to bring down the temperature and extinguish a class D fire and neutralize any threat. In a severe case where it does not seem to respond it would be stout enough to contain the threat until the container is jettisoned! :laugh:
So I guess my digital camera with about 10 battery packs and like 40 lithium AA batteries for my flash unit is not going to fly?
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Yes that is most unfortunate but what to do?
If you say "fuck you" to them someone will probably tase you and even worse you'd end up on youtube. :Q
You're probably better off sending something with a parcel carrier to your final destination, packing and insuring well.
Who knows? See that is where the confusion comes in! Of course they're AA's so you could put them in flashlights but then they may wonder what you're carrying 20 flashlights around for. Tell them you're a Candlepower Forums member - no problem! :laugh:
That's like giving a deadline to terrorists.
<- prepares to read about exploding batteries on planes come 12/31
<- prepares to read about exploding batteries on planes come 12/31
Yeah, better not bring the lithium batteries or the TSA thugs will steal them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best to keep the lowlifes off the streets and employ them guarding our airports.
Best to keep the lowlifes off the streets and employ them guarding our airports.
ultimatebob
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Those TSA guys seem to think that using items with Lithium batteries in them is now a bad idea while on a flight. What does that mean for folks using iPod's and laptops while on a plane?
So if I duct tape my extra battery to my laptop does that mean it's installed?
Fucking idiots at the TSA. What a worthless organization.
Fucking idiots at the TSA. What a worthless organization.
Anubis
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ultimatebob
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Anubis: There is no point to this, and that's the annoying part.
The sad thing about this is that a smart terrorist could probably still make a pretty powerful bomb out of a single lithium ion battery powered device and a quart ziploc bag filled with the right chemicals. These new security rules aren't going to stop THEM, but they sure as hell going to cause hassles for the 99.9999% of all travelers who AREN'T trying to blow up the plane :|
The sad thing about this is that a smart terrorist could probably still make a pretty powerful bomb out of a single lithium ion battery powered device and a quart ziploc bag filled with the right chemicals. These new security rules aren't going to stop THEM, but they sure as hell going to cause hassles for the 99.9999% of all travelers who AREN'T trying to blow up the plane :|
skyking
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Spare laptop batteries are acceptable in carry-on baggage, per the original link.
Here is a method for calculating equivalent lithium content.
http://www.prba.org/battery_ba..._ion_faqs/Default.ashx
Using the example there, a couple of spare laptop batteries will be well below the 25 gram equivalent limit.
http://safetravel.dot.gov/whats_new_batteries.html
"You can also bring up to two spare batteries with an aggregate equivalent lithium content of up to 25 grams, in addition to any batteries that fall below the 8-gram threshold. Examples of two types of lithium ion batteries with equivalent lithium content over 8 grams but below 25 are shown below."
Originally posted by: mugs
Get NiMh cells for the flash. WTF kind of camera do you have that you need to travel with 10 batteries?Our 30D can take thousands of pictures on just the two batteries in the vertical grip.
nm...I have NiMH for the flash...wasn't thinking.
But I do have a lot of battery packs. I have a 20D and a 10D and if I'm travelling somewhere to do a wedding, backups are a must.
If I'm travelling doing landscape work I usually don't have any place to plug in to recharge so I take enough to last for whatever may arise - lots of long exposure shots can go through batteries quicker. And I have been known to take several thousand shots on an outing depending on where I'm at.
Another reason for more battery packs than normal is that in addition to my 4 Canon ones, I have a bunch of SterlingTek ones which are cheaper. I don't fully trust them just yet though.
shortylickens
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I hate them.
I hate them all.
In Portland they let me take on my nice little Colibri lighter. On my trip back the guys at the DC (Dulles) security point said I could NOT bring it on. Piss-poor organization FTL!
My mom had already dropped me off and driven away.
I stepped out of line and tossed it in the garbage. I know darn well if I had let them "confiscate" it then some sorry-ass TSA agent would have got themselves a nice new lighter for Christmas.
I'd rather it be garbage than belong to garbage.
I hate them all.
In Portland they let me take on my nice little Colibri lighter. On my trip back the guys at the DC (Dulles) security point said I could NOT bring it on. Piss-poor organization FTL!
My mom had already dropped me off and driven away.
I stepped out of line and tossed it in the garbage. I know darn well if I had let them "confiscate" it then some sorry-ass TSA agent would have got themselves a nice new lighter for Christmas.
I'd rather it be garbage than belong to garbage.
Yeah my batteries are actually below the 8 g limit so it doesn't really matter to me. I was just ranting on the retardedness of the rule.
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Who said anything about terrorism?
I believe their thought is danger of battery fault in flight and they want to keep the risk within the realm of current control measures.
Of course the mass confusion and in the hands of "trained?" screeners spells major headaches for travelers. That's what the TSA is good at.
I believe their thought is danger of battery fault in flight and they want to keep the risk within the realm of current control measures.
Of course the mass confusion and in the hands of "trained?" screeners spells major headaches for travelers. That's what the TSA is good at.
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