New Toyota Tundra gets 4 stars in NHTSA frontal crash test... Domestics get 5 stars

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Anyone read the Pickup Comparo in that last C&D? i don't recall them addressing the frame issue, but the silverado ran them all. The F150 came in dead last, followed by the Ram, then the Tundra in third, the Titan in second, and the Silverado in first. Looks like one bada$$ truck.

stupid comparo. They test trucks like cars.

 

[AndrewR]

American trucks are superior to Japanese ones? Shocker.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Anyone read the Pickup Comparo in that last C&D? i don't recall them addressing the frame issue, but the silverado ran them all. The F150 came in dead last, followed by the Ram, then the Tundra in third, the Titan in second, and the Silverado in first. Looks like one bada$$ truck.

I didn't like that C&D comparo. Not only did they not towing or hauling, they gave points the titan because you could slide its back end out. WTH wants to do that in a pickup, especially extended cab versions carrying possible children. They tested 0-60 times, but not loading or towing. Would you just take Dodge's word that the new viper will go 0-60 in less than 4? Or would you test it? That comparo was a joke.

Yea it definitely was a joke. Actually most C&D comparisons are a joke to that end.

They even test off road purposed vehicles like cars!

 

[Lounatik]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Anyone read the Pickup Comparo in that last C&D? i don't recall them addressing the frame issue, but the silverado ran them all. The F150 came in dead last, followed by the Ram, then the Tundra in third, the Titan in second, and the Silverado in first. Looks like one bada$$ truck.

I didn't like that C&D comparo. Not only did they not towing or hauling, they gave points the titan because you could slide its back end out. WTH wants to do that in a pickup, especially extended cab versions carrying possible children. They tested 0-60 times, but not loading or towing. Would you just take Dodge's word that the new viper will go 0-60 in less than 4? Or would you test it? That comparo was a joke.

Who are these possible children you speak of?? When I drive recklessly in my Titan my kids become impossible. J/k If it were not for the first and even second year stumblings with the Titan,Nissan would be a good bit ahead of where they stand now with this truck. All I know is that I love it and if you want comparos of towing, check out some trailer and towing mags. They all tend to rate the Titan in first or second.


Peace

Lounatik

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: dug777
I don't fully understand the issue, but don't expect Toyota to sit still on the matter

If i were to buy a Hilux, it would be the previous body, having heard some nasty stories from users of the most recent model in terms of ground clearance and general off-road ability, however...

I thought you hated IFS. Hilux has been IFS for a long time.

And I'd rather have my unibody solid axle Jeep than any boxed frame IFS truck.

Sure, but if one has to compromise on a light 4wd ute

 

[Strk]

If I had the cash and was going to buy a truck, it would have to be a GMC Sierra 1500. It's not only extremely capable, it probably has one of the nicest interiors as well.

Oh, and here's the link with Mike Rowe explaining it

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Anyone read the Pickup Comparo in that last C&D? i don't recall them addressing the frame issue, but the silverado ran them all. The F150 came in dead last, followed by the Ram, then the Tundra in third, the Titan in second, and the Silverado in first. Looks like one bada$$ truck.

I didn't like that C&D comparo. Not only did they not towing or hauling, they gave points the titan because you could slide its back end out. WTH wants to do that in a pickup, especially extended cab versions carrying possible children. They tested 0-60 times, but not loading or towing. Would you just take Dodge's word that the new viper will go 0-60 in less than 4? Or would you test it? That comparo was a joke.

Yea it definitely was a joke. Actually most C&D comparisons are a joke to that end.

They even test off road purposed vehicles like cars!

alright, point taken.

 

[Farbio]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Anyone read the Pickup Comparo in that last C&D? i don't recall them addressing the frame issue, but the silverado ran them all. The F150 came in dead last, followed by the Ram, then the Tundra in third, the Titan in second, and the Silverado in first. Looks like one bada$$ truck.

I didn't like that C&D comparo. Not only did they not towing or hauling, they gave points the titan because you could slide its back end out. WTH wants to do that in a pickup, especially extended cab versions carrying possible children. They tested 0-60 times, but not loading or towing. Would you just take Dodge's word that the new viper will go 0-60 in less than 4? Or would you test it? That comparo was a joke.

Yea it definitely was a joke. Actually most C&D comparisons are a joke to that end.

They even test off road purposed vehicles like cars!

alright, point taken.

Not that I don't think C&D should have done some towing/hauling parts in its test, but lets look at what probably 75% of these trucks are going to be used for at lieast 90% of the time.
i.e. - most of them are bought to drive as passenger vehicles!
People using the half ton chassis for work will most of the time buy a single cab as the bed is bigger and you have a higher GVW.
That said, most people buying trucks for work are going to be using a 3/4 or full ton chassis, as is stated in the article itself

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Farbio

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Anyone read the Pickup Comparo in that last C&D? i don't recall them addressing the frame issue, but the silverado ran them all. The F150 came in dead last, followed by the Ram, then the Tundra in third, the Titan in second, and the Silverado in first. Looks like one bada$$ truck.

I didn't like that C&D comparo. Not only did they not towing or hauling, they gave points the titan because you could slide its back end out. WTH wants to do that in a pickup, especially extended cab versions carrying possible children. They tested 0-60 times, but not loading or towing. Would you just take Dodge's word that the new viper will go 0-60 in less than 4? Or would you test it? That comparo was a joke.

Yea it definitely was a joke. Actually most C&D comparisons are a joke to that end.

They even test off road purposed vehicles like cars!

alright, point taken.

Not that I don't think C&D should have done some towing/hauling parts in its test, but lets look at what probably 75% of these trucks are going to be used for at lieast 90% of the time.
i.e. - most of them are bought to drive as passenger vehicles!
People using the half ton chassis for work will most of the time buy a single cab as the bed is bigger and you have a higher GVW.
That said, most people buying trucks for work are going to be using a 3/4 or full ton chassis, as is stated in the article itself

Yeah but the crap they were testing them for was stupid, and actually they should just test the v6's from all round as they are the real work warriors that are used at the workplace, unless you are head contractor or something.

 

[imthebadguy]

anyway u put it the 150 is a bad ass 1/2 ton, better than any others imo

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Farbio

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Anyone read the Pickup Comparo in that last C&D? i don't recall them addressing the frame issue, but the silverado ran them all. The F150 came in dead last, followed by the Ram, then the Tundra in third, the Titan in second, and the Silverado in first. Looks like one bada$$ truck.

I didn't like that C&D comparo. Not only did they not towing or hauling, they gave points the titan because you could slide its back end out. WTH wants to do that in a pickup, especially extended cab versions carrying possible children. They tested 0-60 times, but not loading or towing. Would you just take Dodge's word that the new viper will go 0-60 in less than 4? Or would you test it? That comparo was a joke.

Yea it definitely was a joke. Actually most C&D comparisons are a joke to that end.

They even test off road purposed vehicles like cars!

alright, point taken.

Not that I don't think C&D should have done some towing/hauling parts in its test, but lets look at what probably 75% of these trucks are going to be used for at lieast 90% of the time.
i.e. - most of them are bought to drive as passenger vehicles!
People using the half ton chassis for work will most of the time buy a single cab as the bed is bigger and you have a higher GVW.
That said, most people buying trucks for work are going to be using a 3/4 or full ton chassis, as is stated in the article itself

Yeah but the crap they were testing them for was stupid, and actually they should just test the v6's from all round as they are the real work warriors that are used at the workplace, unless you are head contractor or something.

The problem is that when magazines test trucks like cars, it pressures manufacturers shift them toward the car end of the spectrum. If they were to review them as trucks, it would STILL appeal to joe blow suburbanite who wants the image of a truck driving badass. SUVs with off road intent switched to IFS in America, not because it's better, but because magazines criticized solid axles for not having as good a ride. The average buyer can't tell the difference, but they go by what the magazines tell them. So they have their IFS or full independent that they think is better, while the true enthusiasts get screwed.