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Fausto

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Originally posted by: murphy55d
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
$1090? Is that all?

I want a road bike to go with my i-Drive, I've been looking in the $1500-$2K range.

[EDIT]Was that just the frame?[/EDIT]

Viper GTS

Hmm I see that it IS just the frame. I'm bicycle stupid, sorry. :)

Although I think the fork is 300 extra. so call it 1400?
Nah, that's only if you buy the fork by itself. Only $150 to upgrade from the cheaper one when you buy a frame. ;)

 
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Very nice indeed. That is the prettiest powder-coat I have ever seen - when I think powder-coat, I usually think of the kludgy paint on the early Santa Cruz Bontragers. That looks as nice as a decent solvent-based paint job, with the collateral benefit of being much tougher.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Very nice indeed. That is the prettiest powder-coat I have ever seen - when I think powder-coat, I usually think of the kludgy paint on the early Santa Cruz Bontragers. That looks as nice as a decent solvent-based paint job, with the collateral benefit of being much tougher.
Powder coat is a LOT nicer than it used to be. They also coat the indside of the frame with anti-corrosion stuff too so getting caught in one of Georgia's frequent afternoon thundershowers shouldn't be too big a deal.

 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Very nice indeed. That is the prettiest powder-coat I have ever seen - when I think powder-coat, I usually think of the kludgy paint on the early Santa Cruz Bontragers. That looks as nice as a decent solvent-based paint job, with the collateral benefit of being much tougher.
I'm sure your car's paint appreciates your view on powdercoating. :)
 

C'DaleRider

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Sweet bike............Steelman are supposed to be some of the best steel around. It's espeically nice to have one custom made for you. I know you'll love it!!!
 

C'DaleRider

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Originally posted by: yamahaXS
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: yamahaXS
VERY NICE..

btw, what are those spokes made out of? Only 18 of them!
Those are zircal....a super-spiffy aluminum alloy. Aerodynamic (thanks to the bladed profile) and very light.

strong too... every read a book called the "The Bicycle Wheel?" heheh read it and you can put cycling back into the nerdy category! Describes the engineering priniciples that give wheels their strength. Problem with too few spokes is that it encourage deformation, and once that happens, the wheel collaspes. I bet zircal is much stronger than the spokes he did his tests on.

Things have changed since he wrote his book. The metallurgy in rims has improved as has spoke metallurgy. Low spoke count, high tension wheels can be extremely strong if done correctly. And you have to remember, Fausto's talking of road wheels which are subjected to much less impact force than mtn. bike wheels.
 

Mursilis

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Nice new toy! Love the color. Once you've got it all built up, may I recommend one of these? Coolest vacation ever!
 

Pliablemoose

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Yup, just the frame (although I upgraded to the Reynold Ouzo Pro carbon fork). A complete bike with the components I want (Campagnolo Chorus) would be about $2500-2600 or so dependin on options.

Sweet, I built up a Schwinn Paramount in the mid 80's when I worked @ a bike shop, sold it a few years later...

I've been to a framebuilding factory, it's awesome to see them made Moots

The owner named his bicycles after a plastic figurine he had as a child...
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Yup, just the frame (although I upgraded to the Reynold Ouzo Pro carbon fork). A complete bike with the components I want (Campagnolo Chorus) would be about $2500-2600 or so dependin on options.

Sweet, I built up a Schwinn Paramount in the mid 80's when I worked @ a bike shop, sold it a few years later...

I've been to a framebuilding factory, it's awesome to see them made Moots

The owner named his bicycles after a plastic figurine he had as a child...
Ah yes....very nice stuff. Don_Vito has one of their road frames IIRC.

EDIT- I've decided to go whole hog and get a color-matched stem to go with the frame since the Syncros stem I have now won't work with the new fork. :D
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: C'DaleRider
Originally posted by: yamahaXS
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: yamahaXS
VERY NICE..

btw, what are those spokes made out of? Only 18 of them!
Those are zircal....a super-spiffy aluminum alloy. Aerodynamic (thanks to the bladed profile) and very light.

strong too... every read a book called the "The Bicycle Wheel?" heheh read it and you can put cycling back into the nerdy category! Describes the engineering priniciples that give wheels their strength. Problem with too few spokes is that it encourage deformation, and once that happens, the wheel collaspes. I bet zircal is much stronger than the spokes he did his tests on.

Things have changed since he wrote his book. The metallurgy in rims has improved as has spoke metallurgy. Low spoke count, high tension wheels can be extremely strong if done correctly. And you have to remember, Fausto's talking of road wheels which are subjected to much less impact force than mtn. bike wheels.
Relatively deep-section rims like the ones in the photo help offset the lower spoke count as well.

 

Koing

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man that bike looks sweet.

Good stuff!

Hope your happy with it!
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Koing
man that bike looks sweet.

Good stuff!

Hope your happy with it!

I've been plotting this purchase for the better part of a year....I think I'll like it. :)
 

Brutuskend

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NICE!

Sorry the boss wouldn't let me cut you a deal on a K2 frame set.

Still, there is a lot to be said for a hand built frame.
I have one that was built here in Eugene back when Bruce Gordon was still building race bikes here. Now he just builds the "Rock N' road"

Happy ride'n
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
NICE!

Sorry the boss wouldn't let me cut you a deal on a KS frame set.

Still, there is a lot to be said for a hand built frame.
I have one that was built here in Eugene back when Bruce Gordon was still building race bikes here. Now he just builds the "Rock N' road"

Happy ride'n
No worries. This bike is really the "dream bike" I've always wanted so maybe it was all for the best. :)

 

Brutuskend

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One of these days I'll have to get a PIC up of my baby.....

It's steel as well (SL/SLR/SLX) and tips in at around 19Lbs. with 36 spoke wheels! (Since the frame is "retro" I built it up with parts of the era.
Old DuraAce high flange hubs and older DuraAce cranks & Derailures.)
It's powder coated black and everything but the spokes & cranks & derailures is black as well. No one gives it a second glance, which here in the bike theft capitol of the world is a GOOD thing! ;)
 
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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Bump- frame is shipping tomorrow! :D

Yay! Nice timing - I just ordered a new build kit for my Moots VaMoots. The final bike will be:

Moots VaMoots 3/2.5 ti frame, 61.5cm
Look HSC-3 fork
Chris King HS, black
Chorus hubs on black Mavic Open Pros, 14/15 butted spokes rear/brass, 14/17 DT Revolutions front/alloy, Vredestein Fortezzas 700x23c, Conti tubes
Record 12-25 10-spd steel/ti cassette (for some reason Excel gave me this with no upcharge)
Record cranks, 175mm, 39/53
Chorus English BB, 102 mm
Chorus Ergo levers
Chorus derailleurs (med cage rear)
Record 10-spd chain
Chorus differential brakes
Moots ti stem
Kestrel EMS Pro bar, 44 cm
Cinelli tape
Chorus ti seatpost
Flite perforated saddle
Dura-Ace PD-7750 SPD-SL "Lance" pedals - these things are awesome!

It should be damn light for such a big bike, considering that I did not resort to much in the way of exotica. Excel's service was stellar on the build kit; much better than my experience with Colorado Cyclist, who I have generally always liked.

Show us some pics once you build up your Steelman!
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Bump- frame is shipping tomorrow! :D

Yay! Nice timing - I just ordered a new build kit for my Moots VaMoots. The final bike will be:

Moots VaMoots 3/2.5 ti frame, 61.5cm
Look HSC-3 fork
Chris King HS, black
Chorus hubs on black Mavic Open Pros, 14/15 butted spokes rear/brass, 14/17 DT Revolutions front/alloy, Vredestein Fortezzas 700x23c, Conti tubes
Record 12-25 10-spd steel/ti cassette (for some reason Excel gave me this with no upcharge)
Record cranks, 175mm, 39/53
Chorus English BB, 102 mm
Chorus Ergo levers
Chorus derailleurs (med cage rear)
Record 10-spd chain
Chorus differential brakes
Moots ti stem
Kestrel EMS Pro bar, 44 cm
Cinelli tape
Chorus ti seatpost
Flite perforated saddle
Dura-Ace PD-7750 SPD-SL "Lance" pedals - these things are awesome!

It should be damn light for such a big bike, considering that I did not resort to much in the way of exotica. Excel's service was stellar on the build kit; much better than my experience with Colorado Cyclist, who I have generally always liked.

Show us some pics once you build up your Steelman!
That looks like a killer setup. :cool:

Out of curiousity: have you ever tried 177.5mm cranks (seeing how you must be pretty lanky to ride such a big frame)? I have several over-six-feet buddies that switched a while back and won't go back. Not a great idea if you're a "spinner", but the extra leverage is handy otherwise.

 

Martin

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damn, I'd love to get a nice bike like that so I can ride it to school (it would take me as much time as taking the public transit, which takes me 40 mins now), unfortunately its winter for 6 of the 8 months that I have school.