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[JCH13]

um if you cant learn limits at the track.....stay out of autox too please! we lose sites by people rolling cars and hitting lights 😀

have you been to a track day? its hard to go back to autoX afterwords 😛

Like JLee said... endurance races in traffic. A step above a track day. He and I drove in the longest road race the world... at night... with about 80 cars on the same track. I've driven in two endurance races since then and will aim for doing one more before the year is out. I haven't been in town for any auto-x events this year, unfortunately. Otherwise I would have gone.

Also, who the hell is rolling cars and hitting light posts at an autox?! That sounds like a failure of track layout or vehicle inspection, not driver skill. The whole point of a Solo event is to drive at the absolute maximum of the car's grip capabilities without worry of hitting anything serious.

 

[Zargon]

Zargon- have you done 14-25hr endurance races? A few of us here have. That doesn't mean autox isn't fun, and no- you don't want to be learning/breaking limits on a real track unless you have a ton of runoff. Even then, rolling a car in grass is a possibility.

no I have not been able to do any real wheel to wheel

and I never said it was fun, but cars wound like ferraris are going to be so much more fun on a larger venue when they can wind up 😀

Like JLee said... endurance races in traffic. A step above a track day. He and I drove in the longest road race the world... at night... with about 80 cars on the same track. I've driven in two endurance races since then and will aim for doing one more before the year is out. I haven't been in town for any auto-x events this year, unfortunately. Otherwise I would have gone.

Also, who the hell is rolling cars and hitting light posts at an autox?! That sounds like a failure of track layout or vehicle inspection, not driver skill. The whole point of a Solo event is to drive at the absolute maximum of the car's grip capabilities without worry of hitting anything serious.

I have see 2 cars roll, and one hit a light poll(jumped a curb to do it), and one hit a picnic table that was 100 feet off course next to a building.

only one of them wasnt a total noob, and blamed his abs for veering WAY off course and hitting the picnic table in his 911

of course those events are over the course of a decade, I saw one major off at each trackday so much higher rate of dumbass

but thats not the point, my point was that a car in teh rev ranges and performace type of the ferrari would be even more fun at a trackday than an autoX, thast all 😛

 

[manimal]

^ dumbass in a 911 blaming the car...

Do you remember if it 996? Guy probably turned off PSM if he had it.

 

[Zargon]

997 Carrera 4S

 

[halik]

^ dumbass in a 911 blaming the car...

Do you remember if it 996? Guy probably turned off PSM if he had it.

Ehh the PSM on my 4s makes you go off at a tangent to the curve, I've had it happen on highway onramps before. The outside caliper locks up as to prevent what the car thinks will be a snap oversteer situation and makes you understeer/go wide... and I was nowhere near the limit on PS2s.

I wouldn't put it pass the guy.

 

[JCH13]

Instructors/club officials at the Auto-x club that I drive with encourage drivers (read: bully drivers though humiliation :awe🙂 into pulling the fuse on any traction control/ABS systems while racing. Generally more for the driving schools though. Either way I've never seen a car do something quite that special.

 

[manimal]

Instructors/club officials at the Auto-x club that I drive with encourage drivers (read: bully drivers though humiliation :awe🙂 into pulling the fuse on any traction control/ABS systems while racing. Generally more for the driving schools though. Either way I've never seen a car do something quite that special.

If a guy was really green I would still tell him to keep PSM on.

That crap ford calls Traction control not so much.

 

[JCH13]

If a guy was really green I would still tell him to keep PSM on.

That crap ford calls Traction control not so much.

Well, if PSM can make you understeer that badly I'd rather lock up all four on the autox track! I'd slow down 4x faster with four locked wheels instead of one!

 

[Hugo Drax]

Seriously, Take it to the track. Take some driving courses/join SCCA and let er rip.

 

[Safeway]

Seriously, Take it to the track. Take some driving courses/join SCCA and let er rip.

And make sure my insurance will cover track-related crash & bump damage and/or get a separate policy that will cover such damage?

I may have the funds to own this car, but I'm not stupid. :beer;

 

[halik]

And make sure my insurance will cover track-related crash & bump damage and/or get a separate policy that will cover such damage?

I may have the funds to own this car, but I'm not stupid. :beer;

Ha yeah, many many policies have clauses that exclude "competitive events". May as well open up an exotic rental place if you have a salvage exotic 😀

 

[JulesMaximus]

Not from, but Cavallo did the PPI. Private party sale.

My wife is friends with the wife of the head mechanic at Cavallo. They live near us and he just bought a Ducati from what I understand (I think he has the 848 SBK). 😉

I've only met the guy once.

 

[Apex]

Ha yeah, many many policies have clauses that exclude "competitive events". May as well open up an exotic rental place if you have a salvage exotic 😀

That's why most of those non wheel-to-wheel track days are called "drivers training" events.