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New system questions

de8212

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Looking to replace my 3.2 intel system. I don't care of it's AMD or intel. I already have 3 GB of RAM . it's pc 3200 Dual Channel. Really don't want to replace it if it will do the job on a new mobo.

CPU fan is a zalman CNPS9500. Not a big deal to lose but I haven't had it long and it was ~$50.

I already have a decent vid card. Not latest and greatest though.
XFX 6800GT 256MB, but it's AGP. Should I go pci-e? don't I need a special power supply for pci-e?

So I need:
mobo
cpu
RAM (can I still use above?)
video card (unless I use above)
power supply (If I go with pci-e vid card???)
case- unless I re use my super lanboy. but it's a tight fit.

Can this be done with ~600 or so?

I'm gonna search the forums just hoping to get a head start with some of this.
 
If you core Intel, you'd probably end up wanting to get new ram, so maybe an AMD dual core of some variety should be your best option.

Why are you upgrading your system? If it's gaming performance, videocard should definately be a priority in your budget.
 
my system won't post. thinking it's just the processor. gonna get someone to check it out for me this weekend bbut I think I want to get a new setup.

I rarely game. almost never but thinking of picking up the new Splinter cell😀A.
 
Well I guess it depends on what kind of upgrade path you want to leave for yourself 😛

You could do something along the lines of dual core AMD with a new motherboard and keep your ram / videocard. You'd be screwed if you wanted to get upgrades for that system though besides something along the lines of a high end ATI AGP card.

What about just getting a new processor compatable with your current motherboard?

That's not as fun, but it sure wont cost very much.
 
thought about that but I never have liked this mobo. nothing major but a few problems when I first got it.
so how about a specific mobo (that I can re use my ram), cpu and pci-e video card for ~600. possible?
 
Hello.

I'm afraid that sticking with DDR-3200 pretty much locks you out of the current AM2 (AMD) and Core Duo/Core 2 Duo (Intel) platforms. So, if dual core is something you're interested in, you'll most likely have to ditch the RAM as well.

There are several boards out there that support the new dual core CPUs as well as offer an AGP slot, but they are usually "budget" solutions on the micro-ATX form factor that really shoudn't be considered for use by an "enthusiast".

If you do go with any of the new PCI-E GPU cards, you won't need a PSU "upgrade" unless you get one of the high-end, multi-card capable solutions like the 18xx/19xx series cards from ATI or the 78xx/79xx series cards from nVidia. Once you start playing around with these cards, you're looking at dual 12-volt rails, 500-600 watt ratings, etc. Also, consider your m/b power connector. For the majority of new m/b's, you'll need a 24-pin main as well as the additional 4-pin 12-volt connector.

Anyway, good luck with your upgrade quest...

Twitch

 
OK, my head is hurting from all the reading.
I may as welll go Dual Core. Just not sure if I should go intel or AMD. Can someone just summarize a couple of pro's/cons for each?????
If someone can start me off with a decent build recommendation I can go from there.
Processor AMD or Intel - As long as it's faster than my 3.2e.
Motherboard - Stable is the most important. May never overclock but can have those features just in case.
RAM - at least 2 GB's
VIdeo - No idea. May do some light gaming. But I do alot of video encoding/editing/etc.
Then I'll worry about a case.

BTW my current power supply (MAd dog 500watt) has a seperate AGP connector. A friend of mine has a dual core and I thought he told me you had to have a special PS for the PCI-e cards??? That's why I mentioned it.

Hoping to stay under 1k. Is that even possble?

 
Hello.

I'm writing this having gone thru a similar experience as yours. Since building my current rig (see below), I've built 2 C2D rigs and 1 AM2 rig for family and friends that have used parts from there "old" systems.

You can definately stay under a $1000 for this rig. As far as the decision between AMD AM2 or Intel Core 2 Duo, it really boils down to price. AMD is introducing price cuts to make their CPU's more attractive. But, if you're going on pure performance, Core 2 Duo simply is better in most every aspect and will really shine in media content creation and encoding. Since this will be one of your primary uses, let's look at a C2D rig:

- Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Processor - Retail $315
- Asus P5B-E P965 Express Motherboard $158
- Mushkin DDR2-800 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit, 2 Gigs $250 after rebate
- HIS Radeon X1650Pro Video Card CroddFire Ready 512mb $140

So, for a total price of $863.00, you're getting apretty decent rig. You really haven't skimped on anything here. For the CPU, went with the mid-level C2D E6600. It's a very fast chip out of the box that can easily be OC'ed to 3.0 GHz! But what really sets it apart value-wise is that big 4mb of L2 Cache...ideal for working with media applications. Plain and simple, this chip kicks serious butt for the price you're paying!

For the motherboard, the Asus P5-series have gotten rave reviews for their stability, features and adjustability. This one is based on Intel's newer P965-series chipset, so it is very stable. But, because the Asus BIOS is so flexible and powerful, many users have achieved some pretty decent OC's quite easily. Aside from this, it has 7(!) 3.0 SATA ports with support for RAID, 8-channel audio, firewire, 6 USB 2 ports, back panel ports, headers, comes with a ton of cables, etc. Another fully-loaded Asus product.

For memory, went with one of the more respected brands in Mushkin. Since all DDR2 memory is expensive these days, it makes no sense to go with one of the "lesser-known" brands to save some bucks and chance incompatibility and/or stability problems. With this Mushkin kit, you're getting matched pairs for Dual Channel operation at a full speed DDR2-800 rating. Plenty fast with some headroom left over.

Last, went with ATI's newest mid-range release GPU, the Radeon X1650 Pro. It's got some decent features and performance specs but what this particular HIS Tech model also offers is double the memory at 512mb. It's not the fastest mid-level card available for gaming, but it will offer the image quality that the ATI cards have become known for. Also, it won't require you to upgrade your existing PSU as it doesn't demand too much power nor need it's own power connection.

So, that's it. Stayed under $1000 and you have a really good, decently fast system that will work for all current applications with really speedy performance. I'd definately use that Zalman cooler you have. The C2D CPU's are extremely efficient already, but that Zalman will make temps and noise levels even lower.

Hope to have helped...

Twitch




 
thanks for the reply twitch.

I am leaning towards intel the more I read. the 6600 is a little more than I wanted but I do not mind.
I have always heard good things of asus boards but never owned one. I'll research that model.
I'll also look into the mushkin. I currently have Kingston Hyper X and some OCZ platinum so I always get good ram instead of value ram.
Haven't heard of that video card so I will look into it as well. I've always owned nvidia cards and never an ATI. Not that there's anything wrong with them.

thanks for your time, I appreciate it.
Any other input is welcomed.
 
You should be able to get a 7600GT for a similar price to the 1650Pro. These cards are quite a bit quicker than the x16xx series from ATI.
 
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