new system in building process!

finbarqs

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kingston hyperX 16GB (4x4GB)
i7-2600K
ASUS P8Z68-V
Intel 320 300GB SSD
WD 600GB Velociraptor
Samsung BD-R Combo
Antec CP1000W PSU
ASUS GT520 PCIe
silverstone FT02B Case
Win7 x64 HP

can't wait!
 

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Looks mildly excessive, assuming only gaming is your goal. Did you just post to brag, or did you want [thread=80121]a critique[/thread]?

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ASUS GT520 PCIe
I guess gaming isn't your goal. PSU is beyond overkill in that situation.
 

fffblackmage

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Don't those Kingston HyperX use 1.65V? :|

That i7-2600K is likely a waste of $100.

The Velociraptor is rather pointless.

Severe overkill PSU.

So what's the point of this rig?
 

finbarqs

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Gaming is an after thought. But I want the Capability to game with SLI, of course. How's that PSU? I know it has an 80+ cert, but it's not the new "Bronze, Silver, Gold" standard. The motherboard I think is decent enough... I'm going for good reliability here :)
 

finbarqs

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yes kingston is 1.65V. What's wrong with 1.65V? It's the only kit Mwave sells that's in the flavor of 16gb.

Velociraptor is for my data drive. I want my data to be accessed asap, where 7200 RPM drives aren't gonna cut it. (i.e. loading a photoshop file, or a video file)

The goal is to build a very fast stock system!
 

fffblackmage

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To be technically correct, 1.65V ram is "fine." Intel states ram voltage shouldn't be higher than 1.65V when you're pairing them with their CPUs, however, most, if not all of us, frown at any ram that requires a voltage greater than the standard 1.5V for DDR3.

Why?:
Lower quality ram chips, because a higher voltage than normal is needed to drive them.
Higher power consumption and dissipation.
Shorter lifespan.
Poor reliability.
Long-term damage to Intel SB CPU's memory controller.

You're also not limited to buying 16GB kits if you want 16GB of memory. You could simply get 2 kits of 8GB. The difference is just the packaging.

If you wanted things to load fast, you should stick with the SSD instead of the Velociraptor. Maybe get a larger SSD or another.
 

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Looks like a big waste of money to me.

1.65V RAM? No go for Sandy Bridge
$180 mobo? Does nothing than a $130 one won't do
300GB SSD and Raptor? Pointless because the Raptor is barely faster (if at all) than a 1TB per platter 7200 RPM drive in sequential and both are about 10 times slower than an SSD in random
1000W CPX PSU? that won't physically fit in an ATX mount? Beyond silly, even for SLI/CFX
GT520? Might as well use the onboard
$250 case for a 95W CPU and no OC? Complete waste

So yeah, all and all, I give this build a 0/10 because it won't work.
 

finbarqs

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yeah... i'm thinking i'll return the ram, and get a decent one from amazon prime.. I hear raptor is plenty faster than a black 1TB platter 7200 drive... just mainly data access. i got the 180 board for 120 bucks (microcenter deal)

CPX psu? damn... should've read more carefully... okay, 1k PSU is going back, and the RAM is going back. in exchange for something from amazon...

but prior to SSD's, i use to run Raptor as my boot drive, and 7200 as my secondary data drives. I do see the difference in access time by a pretty sizable margin.
 

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Return the case and buy one in the $100 range. Return the RAM and buy 1.5V. Return the PSU and buy a 500-600W Antec/Corsair/Seasonic/XFX/PCP&C (the PSU can be upgraded if you go SLI which is unlikely). Return the Raptor, it's useless when you have an SSD, just a horrible way to spend money really. Return the video card and use onboard, then buy a proper discrete GPU in the $150-200 range when you start to actually play games.

Personally I'd also return the 2600K and swap to 2500K, much better bang for buck even in photoshop. Buy an aftermarket cooler and OC your 2500K to 4.5GHz

Then you're set.
 
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finbarqs

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premier pro, is another - quickbooks, and thanks btw, for the heads up on the RAM. the Case is a personal preference... personal aesthetics that just looks freakin' amazing. Sorry, case stays :)

If the Velociraptor was the same price as the standard Drives, would you go for the velociraptor? Maybe standard drive tech has improved quite a bit for some time. But my 74GB Raptor drive is MUCH faster than the standard run of the mill 500GB Seagate 7200RPM 16MB cache perpendicular drive. The boot up, the access, it's all, much much quicker. Don't know about transfer speeds thought, just really want that quick access, with minimal slow down. Obviously, the real winner would be to get a RAM drive and use SSD's as data drives :) (as long as the system stay plugged in)
 

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Return the case and buy one in the $100 range. Return the RAM and buy 1.5V. Return the PSU and buy a 500-600W Antec/Corsair/Seasonic/XFX/PCP&C (the PSU can be upgraded if you go SLI which is unlikely). Return the Raptor, it's useless when you have an SSD, just a horrible way to spend money really. Return the video card and use onboard, then buy a proper discrete GPU in the $150-200 range when you start to actually play games.

Personally I'd also return the 2600K and swap to 2500K, much better bang for buck even in photoshop. Buy an aftermarket cooler and OC your 2500K to 4.5GHz

Then you're set.

Hmm, I think that's pretty much every part. :awe:
 

mfenn

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premier pro, is another - quickbooks, and thanks btw, for the heads up on the RAM. the Case is a personal preference... personal aesthetics that just looks freakin' amazing. Sorry, case stays :)

Just hope you don't plan on putting it on carpet. :D :D :D

If the Velociraptor was the same price as the standard Drives, would you go for the velociraptor? Maybe standard drive tech has improved quite a bit for some time. But my 74GB Raptor drive is MUCH faster than the standard run of the mill 500GB Seagate 7200RPM 16MB cache perpendicular drive. The boot up, the access, it's all, much much quicker. Don't know about transfer speeds thought, just really want that quick access, with minimal slow down. Obviously, the real winner would be to get a RAM drive and use SSD's as data drives :) (as long as the system stay plugged in)

A 10K drives just aren't that much faster that 7200RPM ones. As lehtv said, a 10K drive for data when you have a 300GB SSD is just dumb.
 

finbarqs

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I guess for me, access time is more important than transfer speeds... Where the SSD reigns king, I would like my data to do a better job at keeping up than a traditional 7200 rpm drive. But who knows.. maybe it's negligible at this point?
 

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I guess for me, access time is more important than transfer speeds... Where the SSD reigns king, I would like my data to do a better job at keeping up than a traditional 7200 rpm drive. But who knows.. maybe it's negligible at this point?

Did you perchance take a look at my links? They clearly show that a 10K drive is not that much faster at random IO than a 7.2K drive.
 

finbarqs

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i didn't see Random I/O on the links. but does random I/O directly translate to access time?
 

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i didn't see Random I/O on the links. but does random I/O directly translate to access time?

Yes. Random I/O is where the drive has to seek to a new place before every read and is this inversely proportional to access time (i.e. the lower (quicker) your access time, the higher your random I/O performance).